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Post by marshabar1 on Aug 7, 2011 9:49:58 GMT -5
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Post by ameiko on Aug 7, 2011 10:01:28 GMT -5
I think that they are giving the US more credit that we really deserve. We are just in the first rounds and the cuts aren't nearly deep enough. Also, while I think that many US citizens are going to get fed up with their tax dollars going to too generous welfare programs aimed at people who never contributed to our prosperity but just misery, there are still too many defenders of those programs like Obama and Pelosi.
We have not cut deeply enough and there will be even more battles in the near future as we wrestle with the federal levithan and its parasites.
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Post by ameiko on Aug 7, 2011 10:16:20 GMT -5
I think that they are giving the US more credit that we really deserve. We are just in the first rounds and the cuts aren't nearly deep enough. Also, while I think that many US citizens are going to get fed up with their tax dollars going to too generous welfare programs aimed at people who never contributed to our prosperity but just misery, there are still too many defenders of those programs like Obama and Pelosi. We have not cut deeply enough and there will be even more battles in the near future as we wrestle with the federal levithan and its parasites. Applying full brakes would have flipped our runaway train and caused it to crash. Slowing it is a good start and a step closer to stopping it. I disagree. Sure, there would be pain but the longer that we do not cut spending and stop borrowing, the larger the outlays will have to be to deal with the interest. I would also suggest that getting our house in Order, which includes defeating Obama, would lead to a surge in economic growth and thus tax revenue.
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Post by marshabar1 on Aug 7, 2011 10:18:38 GMT -5
I think that they are giving the US more credit that we really deserve. We are just in the first rounds and the cuts aren't nearly deep enough. Also, while I think that many US citizens are going to get fed up with their tax dollars going to too generous welfare programs aimed at people who never contributed to our prosperity but just misery, there are still too many defenders of those programs like Obama and Pelosi. We have not cut deeply enough and there will be even more battles in the near future as we wrestle with the federal levithan and its parasites. Oh, for sure you're right, Ameiko, but it's the trend, the direction that is important and the trend in Europe is ahead of the trend here. They've been deeper into it and they see how socialism is destroying them more clearly than we do here. But for this congress to wrestle this administration away from the headlong plunge even a little was an amazing thing. The comments coming from the old men on the left certainly bear out the idea that they enraged at being stifled. John Kerry said the press has a responsibility to not give the Tea Party equal coverage. Scratch a liberal, find a fascist. Truly. Interesting read here: www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/raging_at_the_dying_of_their_light.htmlI don't agree totally with the premise but it's something to think about. I think the rage is not so much at the realization they are failing as it is the fruit of their prideful immorality.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 7, 2011 10:24:02 GMT -5
hope springs eternal
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Aug 7, 2011 18:40:57 GMT -5
There are no spending cuts, we don't even freeze spending. The budget increases every year, and the underlying assumption is that we will grow our way out of debt and deficits not by cutting spending, but by "slowing the rate of growth of spending". But make no mistake, this is a growth of spending plan.
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Post by Don Perignon on Aug 7, 2011 19:57:35 GMT -5
When the budgets and deficits increased, year after year, under the bushCHENEY administration... a certain faction applauded. They're the same ones now bitching and moaning about the unchanged status quo. It is ridiculous.
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Post by cereb on Aug 7, 2011 20:07:14 GMT -5
"It is ridiculous. "
It's also cheap entertainment.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 7, 2011 20:18:13 GMT -5
"It is ridiculous. " It's also cheap entertainment. never has cheap entertainment been so costly.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 7, 2011 20:18:59 GMT -5
Must be a slow news day in Pleasantville.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2011 20:24:19 GMT -5
The majority of citizens in nearly all the world’s most developed countries simply aren’t prepared to tolerate the degree of borrowing required to sustain generous welfare programmes any longer.
The truth is that you reach a point where you can't get loans any more or in our case where we were going to have to pay more for them. I just wish the above statement were true about the U.S. but I don't think it is. It seems that to many of our countryman just want something for nothing & they aren't smart enough or don't care that someone else has to pay for it.
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Post by ameiko on Aug 7, 2011 20:45:04 GMT -5
When the budgets and deficits increased, year after year, under the bushCHENEY administration... a certain faction applauded. They're the same ones now bitching and moaning about the unchanged status quo. It is ridiculous. Typical nonsense. Many conservatives, including many on this board like myself, were not happy with the Bush spending (especially his drug prescription nonsense) but we knew and were proven correct that it would be worse under a Democrat President, especially with a GOP Congress to restrain him as happened when the GOP fought back Clinton's Hillarycare and other nonsense.
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Post by floridayankee on Aug 8, 2011 15:10:02 GMT -5
When the budgets and deficits increased, year after year, under the bushCHENEY administration... a certain faction applauded. They're the same ones now bitching and moaning about the unchanged status quo. It is ridiculous. Actually, the ones that are bitching are simply the silent majority that sat around for way too long think our elected assholes would eventually do the right thing. Right now, we're saying... "CAN YOU HEAR US NOW WASHINGTON!?!?"Perhaps you all we should wait another few trillion before complaining?
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Post by jkapp on Aug 8, 2011 16:38:11 GMT -5
When the budgets and deficits increased, year after year, under the bushCHENEY administration... a certain faction applauded. They're the same ones now bitching and moaning about the unchanged status quo. It is ridiculous. And the other faction that WAS complaining about the Bush/Cheney spending are now complaining about the spending cuts... Wow...it's almost like its a partisan thing??
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Aug 8, 2011 16:51:04 GMT -5
I must have read a different version of the debt deal, I didn't really see any thing in the one I read that addresses any of our problems
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