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Post by rick on Jan 7, 2011 19:23:43 GMT -5
This post is being deleted due to the disrespect of Mr Dark Honor and Miss Loopdilou
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2011 19:28:06 GMT -5
That's awesome
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Post by DebMD (banned) on Jan 7, 2011 19:32:56 GMT -5
God speaking to you thru people. Like
IRON SHARPENS IRON AS PEOPLE SHARPEN PEOPLE.
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Post by rick on Jan 7, 2011 19:34:21 GMT -5
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Post by DebMD (banned) on Jan 7, 2011 19:37:36 GMT -5
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 7, 2011 19:47:12 GMT -5
He watches over us and even brings others into our lives To help us when we are in need.. Unless he decides to bring a drunk driver into your life who hits and kills you while you're walking to school. I guess he knew you were going to be a bad person or something down the road. The horse thing was cute though.
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Post by rick on Jan 7, 2011 19:59:40 GMT -5
Thank you for those inspiring words Mr Dark
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Post by DebMD (banned) on Jan 7, 2011 20:04:29 GMT -5
Interestingly- Everything is under divine providence both the good and the bad.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 7, 2011 20:14:24 GMT -5
Sorry, I just never understood attributing every good thing that ever happens in your life to some deity looking out for you. That would also mean that the same deity would be responsible for every crappy thing that's ever happened to you. Which would kind of make that deity a douche bag. I mean, why throw all the crap your way when they didn't have to, right? I prefer to think that the people you meet who go out of their way to help you are doing so because they're good people. They aren't being forced or manipulated into it, they're doing it on their own.
I don't know, I find it more comforting to think that people have completely free choice and the good people outnumber the bad. The other alternative is that we're all basically puppets being controlled by a very powerful douche bag. Most of the planet finds the second one more comforting, but it's always skeeved me out.
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Post by rick on Jan 7, 2011 20:18:30 GMT -5
Sorry you are so Bitter, But I choose to believe
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 7, 2011 20:20:42 GMT -5
It isn't (always) bitterness that leads people to not believe in flying spaghetti monsters. Usually it's rational thought.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 7, 2011 20:21:32 GMT -5
I don't think I'm really all that bitter. My life ain't half bad. I just don't believe.
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Post by rick on Jan 7, 2011 20:21:59 GMT -5
You 2 are excused if you only want to spew negativity
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 7, 2011 20:23:30 GMT -5
... What'd I say that is negative?
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Post by rick on Jan 7, 2011 20:24:43 GMT -5
Im sorry you guys cant see the brighter side of things, I wish you happiness and Joy
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 7, 2011 20:27:41 GMT -5
LOL! From your story I got - "Some people are really good and believe in helping their fellow man" until you got to the god part and then I heard, "Except that people aren't ACTUALLY good, god is just making them be good."
I get a lot more happiness and joy from the former than I do the latter.
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Post by 8 Bit WWBG on Jan 7, 2011 20:27:58 GMT -5
That is poetic. I hope the horses are long able to enjoy each others company.
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 7, 2011 20:31:31 GMT -5
I do too, much more pleasant than thinking about the fact that they'll eventually be turned into glue
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 7, 2011 20:37:13 GMT -5
LOL! Come on woman, there's gotta be a line somewhere.
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Post by Loopdilou on Jan 7, 2011 20:40:12 GMT -5
Says the man wearing a Santa teddy
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Post by DebMD (banned) on Jan 7, 2011 20:43:29 GMT -5
We'll all be food for the worms. From dust you became and dust you will return...ashes to ashes,dust to dust.
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Post by Sum Dum Gai on Jan 7, 2011 20:48:53 GMT -5
This post is being deleted due to the disrespect of Mr Dark Honor and Miss Loopdilou What? Really? A couple posts of dissenting opinion and you're taking your ball and going home?
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Post by DebMD (banned) on Jan 8, 2011 13:01:51 GMT -5
This story was a good analogy as to how we can help ourselves and someone else in our lives.
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Post by TD2K on Jan 8, 2011 13:27:10 GMT -5
< Sorry, I just never understood attributing every good thing that ever happens in your life to some deity looking out for you. That would also mean that the same deity would be responsible for every crappy thing that's ever happened to you. >
The mods can delete this if they think it's going to derail the thread even more but I agree with this. If our government or the company we work for tried to say 'you need to thank us for all the good things but you can't in turn blame us for any of the bad stuff' we'd call BS in a second and we do. I can accept free will being a reason for an individual doing stupid stuff that affects only you but to use that as an excuse for some of the absolutely horrible things that happen to 3rd parties in the world for no reason than being in the wrong place at the wrong time, I can't and won't accept that while accepting the concept of some 'loving god'.
Human recorded history has always had god(s) to help people accept and 'explain' why stuff happens (to say nothing of the control it allows some people to maintain over others), we've just made our gods bigger and more impressive as we've developed our own societies. When you are living in a cave, your god(s) can be much less impressive than if you can fly between continents, get into space, etc
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2011 14:04:44 GMT -5
I think there's a way for determinism and free will to co-exist. I believe in God, but I believe in God more as a being who set up the dominoes and knocked the first one down.
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Post by verrip1 on Jan 8, 2011 14:57:05 GMT -5
People have choices when they read a post concerning someone's religious beliefs. Making fun of/denigrating that religious belief is one of the low class choices.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2011 16:16:40 GMT -5
While I don't agree with how Dark and Loop expressed their opinion, people need to realize this is a free forum and you're not going to have people always echoing your beliefs. It's okay to disagree, as long as it's done respectfully.
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