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Post by warsaw (banned) on Jan 8, 2011 22:47:30 GMT -5
Someone's been watching too much Fox Noise LOL!
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Post by verrip1 on Jan 8, 2011 23:32:42 GMT -5
Sorry. I missed the importance of a President naming a czar. So a czar misses Senate confirmation. I would think that that is a good thing because I can't recall the most recent time I heard about something that the Senate did was a good thing. Congress is too screwed up itself to have time to worry about how the President structures his advisors. Instead they should get along with their own Constitutional business, the budget. Yeah, the President is required by Federal law, not the Constitution, to submit a budget to Congress, but nothing prevents the House members from pre-submitting their own budget in the House before getting the President's one. If they have the ganas to lead rather than wait and counter-attack, that is. I'm unconvinced that Boehner has the ganas to do it. Too much old school. Too bad for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2011 23:47:53 GMT -5
Should All Of The Obama's Czar's Be Eliminated?
On the one hand I guess President Obama is doing his part to help the jobless (with someone else's money) but I don't think all of them can be employed by him.
On the other hand from what I can see he needs all of the help that he can get.
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Post by ugonow on Jan 9, 2011 9:39:14 GMT -5
I really don't understand how people were led to believe all this czar business started with this administration,but I'll take it...every bit of mud helps.
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Post by workpublic on Jan 9, 2011 10:17:33 GMT -5
replace the czars with the duma ;D
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 9, 2011 10:38:38 GMT -5
Again if you live in the Gulf Region and were effected by the B&P Oil Spill and are satisfied with Carol Browner then maybe you will have something to say about this Czar or Czarina. But most familiar with her performance don't think they are getting much bang for the buck with Ms Browner who is a professional politician known for just spewing hype and spin rather than reality of facts on the ground.
I would suggest you read more about the Czars and what have they done or not done during the past year before just taking cheap shots at those who know something about this thread..
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 10, 2011 10:00:55 GMT -5
Yes, the czars should be eliminated, not just Obama but future presidents as well. If they have a budget beyond there salary and maybe a small staff then they are more than advisers. Cabinet positions can be added as needed. Probably if an adviser rises to the level where everybody wants to call them a czar then most likely they exert power that should be in a vetted cabinet position.
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 10, 2011 11:15:31 GMT -5
Since FDR, every POTUS except Ike and HW Bush had at least one unconfirmed (by senate) appointee on their staff.
Should they be eliminated...no. Should they be confirmed...undecided. Confirmation is likely a waste of time since the hearings have become nothing more than a media circus any more anyway.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 10, 2011 11:21:48 GMT -5
Did the other Presidents have 39 Czars And there are Czars whose salary is confidential and their performance has been sub standard......according to both Dems and Repubs in the senate...or in a few words......." a waste of tax payers money again" The senator taking the lead on this issus is Diane Feinstein btw
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 10, 2011 11:33:11 GMT -5
Did the other Presidents have 39 Czars Bush: 32 Obama: 39 The next closest number of appointees...FDR with 11. So, Bush and Obama have steeply increased the "average" number of appointees per administration.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 10, 2011 11:36:58 GMT -5
Bush: 32 ?? Where did you get that number of CZARS appointed by GW??
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Post by floridayankee on Jan 10, 2011 14:03:16 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 10, 2011 16:27:39 GMT -5
Ok but the argument we have had Czars in prior Presidential Administrations doesn't justify having them now if they are not needed....congress is trying to limit appointees and staff. So indeed they want the President to be held to the same austere funding in this time of so called limited resources.
I favor eliminating them all and let the Cabinet Secretaries perform these so called Czar roles ...how is that for being fiscally responsible?? It would save a few megabucks and a million here and a million there and all of a sudden you are talking about real money
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Post by fairlycrazy23 on Jan 11, 2011 12:00:05 GMT -5
The question would have been better if it was just "should presidential czars be eliminated" it didn't start with Obama and it is doubtful it will end with him.
But I think they should be eliminated, I think the cabinet should probably be shrunk as well, and there budgets cut across the board.
Just look at the TSA this department (part of homeland security) has over 67k employees with 3600 high paid administrators in dc alone. This seem highly suspect of waste. And of course all the added security precautions they are implementing probably INCREASE deaths since they lead to more automobile driving which is vastly more dangerous than flying.
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