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Post by lakhota on Jul 1, 2011 22:52:25 GMT -5
Judge Rejects Sarah Palin On Global Warming, Keeps Polar Bears On Threatened ListIn 2008, the U.S. government placed the polar bear on the threatened species list because of the rapid decline in Arctic sea ice, becoming “the first to be designated as threatened because of global warming.” But in 2008, media mega-star Sarah Palin was still the governor of Alaska. Fearing that protecting the polar bear would “cripple oil and gas development” off Alaska’s coasts, Palin — a well-worn climate science denier — sued the government to remove the species from the list. Palin pointed to the high population of polar bears in 2008 and dismissed climate models that predict continued loss of sea ice as “unreliable,” “uncertain,” and “unproven.” But U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan backed the government scientists’ finding this week “that global warming is threatening the survival of the polar bear.” In a 116-page opinion, Sullivan dismissed Palin and hunting groups’ arguments as “nothing more than competing views about policy and science” and ruled on the side of science: Notwithstanding a handful of references to uncertainty that appear in record documents, Joint Plaintiffs have failed to persuade this Court that FWS [U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service] implemented the ESA [Endangered Species Act] “haphazardly.” Accordingly, the Court concludes that FWS did not act arbitrarily in relying on and drawing reasonable conclusions from the IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] reports and climate models in making its listing determination for the polar bear. Under the judge’s ruling, the polar bear is still listed as “threatened,” not “endangered,” on the endangered species list. The U.S. Justice Department stated yesterday that “it was pleased that the court agreed with its argument that the decision was based on the science available at the time.” The Center for Biological Diversity, however, noted after the decision that “even if polar bears could be considered only threatened in 2008, they are clearly endangered today.” While the estimated population of Arctic polar bears in 2008 stood at 20,000 to 25,000, the U.S. Geological Survey predicted that “two thirds of the world’s polar bears will disappear in the next 50 years because of a decline in Arctic sea ice.” Indeed, “climate change has turned some polar bears into cannibals as global warming melts their Arctic ice hunting grounds.” Regardless of the facts, Palin said in a 2009 op-ed that she “took a stand against politicized science” in this case and “stood by my view that adding a healthy species to the endangered list under the guise of ‘climate change impacts’ was an abuse of the Endangered Species Act.” thinkprogress.org/green/2011/07/01/259129/judge-rejects-palin-polar-bears/
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 2, 2011 8:28:09 GMT -5
It's going to take a long time to reverse the brainwashing of so many people by the watermelons. Arctic sea ice is growing and the polar bear population has exploded. How many people do you thing (let along the dopes at the "center for biological diversity")
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2011 8:35:54 GMT -5
I've read antarctic is increasing... do you have a source regarding the artic sea ice levels increasing? Because last i heard was the trend towards record flooding due to melting... Thanks for the link.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2011 20:47:31 GMT -5
It's going to take a long time to reverse the brainwashing of so many people by the watermelons. Arctic sea ice is growing and the polar bear population has exploded. How many people do you thing (let along the dopes at the "center for biological diversity") link, please.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 2, 2011 21:18:37 GMT -5
It took me awhile to dig it up because the news is so old. I'm not going to make it my mission to explain the Earth is round here. At some point, the average person that wants to have a discussion with me is going to have to take personal responsibility for keeping abreast of the facts. Here's one source: www.dailytech.com/Arctic+Sees+Massive+Gain+in+Ice+Coverage/article12851.htmI suppose that you also don't know the famous image of the polar bear on the allegedly melting ice is a proven hoax, either? Am I gonna have to dig that up, too?
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 2, 2011 21:22:43 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 2, 2011 21:28:24 GMT -5
paul- the reason that i asked is that i have heard a research biologist who has studied this issue extensively say that the PB will be dead (or no longer in it's natural habitat, as he put it) in half a century due to ice shelf depletion. that report was picked up by National Geographic.
so, now i am in a position of weighing this information with what you just posted. are you done considering the other research? and if so, why?
i should also add that i am not that concerned with what happens from year to year, but with the overall trend.
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