Iran missle threat real? Yes according uk

[deziloooooo]

Seems the Iranians are more along in delivering a Nuclear war head then some have thought..
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Iran has secretly tested nuclear-capable missiles – UK Foreign Secretary

DEBKAfile Special Report June 29, 2011, 5:14 PM (GMT+02:00)

British Foreign Secretary William Hague stated Wednesday, June 29:

"Iran has also been carrying out covert ballistic missile tests and rocket launches, including testing missiles capable of delivering a nuclear payload in contravention of UN resolution 1929."

This was reported first by debkafile last year and repeated in the face of US and Israeli denials. Hague was the first Western leader to confirm debkafile disclosures up to and including our report Tuesday on Iran's 10-day exercise. Our military sources stressed that Iran's plan to launch a monkey into space – and therefore a 330-kilo payload - by the Kavoshgar-5 was evidence that it had developed a rocket capable of delivering a nuclear warhead at any point on the planet. Click here for this report.

Hague also pointed out in a statement to parliament that Iran had announced plans to triple its capacity to produce 20 percent enriched uranium - "enrichment levels far greater than is needed for peaceful nuclear energy."
debkafile's military and intelligence sources note that the Foreign Secretary's words follow the concentration of large-scale American naval, air and marine forces in the Mediterranean, the Aden and Oman straits, the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. This seaborne army is positioned for strikes against targets in Iran, Syria and Libya at 12 hours' notice. It may be safely assumed that Hague's ominous disclosure was pre-arranged with Washington.
In the past month, our sources have also quoted several Saudi royal princes as warning that if Iran attained a nuclear capability, it would not be the only Persian Gulf nation to be armed with a nuclear weapon and missiles for its delivery."

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Jun 29, 2011 23:35:17 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Seems the Iranians are more along in delivering a Nuclear war head then some have thought..
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Dezi, many here on this board warned of this being the end result, of their nuclear reactors, but as usual, those on the left poo-pooed our concerns and considered us radical rightists.

[Value Buy]

Oh, and the ad for the Greek Mythology game to the right of the article looked rather interesting
too.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 29, 2011 23:39:49 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 29, 2011 23:35:17 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Seems the Iranians are more along in delivering a Nuclear war head then some have thought..
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www.debka.com/article/21075/
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Dezi, many here on this board warned of this being the end result, of their nuclear reactors, but as usual, those on the left poo-pooed our concerns and considered us radical rightists.

Again , as one from the left..I can't remember me feeling their research of a nuclear weapon and delivery system was just all hog wash..it is a fact..has been one for a long time...their missle capability was not done on their own, North Korea, China and Russia I am sure helped with their research...

To put a left /right slant on this is just more political clap trap and not helpful for any meaningful discussion..I just don't understand it..not saying you don't have the right to post what ever you want to, but why??

There are enough here who see all things posted here in either a left or right conviction, I am surprised your joining those few who all who read the posts here recognize as soon as they see a particuler NIC posted, the content of the post is known before the post is ever read..

"Oh crap, more BS from ****"...why join those types..not needed..IMHO that is.

[ed1066]

Liberals, you told us this was for "peaceful electricity", just like your friend Ahmedinejad said. What happened? It's Israel's fault, right?

[Shirina]

Liberals, you told us this was for "peaceful electricity", just like your friend Ahmedinejad said. What happened? It's Israel's fault, right?

What were you hoping for, ed? Perhaps our exhausted military can open up a war on a 4th front? I'm sure that will make our soldiers jump for joy. Of course, if Obama had taken any action against Iran, do you think conservatives like you would have given Obama any credit for it? Of course not. In fact, you'd probably immediately hit the internet looking for a way that Obama somehow violated the Constitution. It's all really quite predictable.

[Bluerobin]

It's not in our backyard. Let someone else worry about it, until they get a rocket that can reach the US.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 30, 2011 0:58:39 GMT -5 Shirina said:

Liberals, you told us this was for "peaceful electricity", just like your friend Ahmedinejad said. What happened? It's Israel's fault, right?

What were you hoping for, ed? Perhaps our exhausted military can open up a war on a 4th front? I'm sure that will make our soldiers jump for joy. Of course, if Obama had taken any action against Iran, do you think conservatives like you would have given Obama any credit for it? Of course not. In fact, you'd probably immediately hit the internet looking for a way that Obama somehow violated the Constitution. It's all really quite predictable.

I had asked ed , three times by the way..never a response from him..since he has mentioned the threat to Israel as well as the region, but in his case the threat o Israel of Iran having such a weapon and delivery system..and knowing his disdain for the current POTUS..in a possible scenario..

IF Obama ordered the military to take out Iran's Nuclear capability.would he then change his tactics on Obama, not only praise him, give him credit , even help and support his reelection bid..the man woulds have been responsible for removing one of the GREAT dangers to the State..at great risk to himself politically..

ed never seems to answer me..just ignores me on that one..

[deziloooooo]

There is more to this story then first reported, and for me it gets confusing.

According to debka..and remember, these are think pieces..but think pieces which seem to get the news correctly in most cases, but still read them with a open mind is my suggestion, it seems that the news was first found out , the successful test firing by Iran of the two missiles by Russian Intelligence. Putin was informed and he secretly spoke to the US and Israel , to keep the news secret..and then to the Iranians, not to brag about the tests, so to keep the world community from coming back on to Iran with more sanctions, possible hoping that Iran just shuts the door regarding any negotiations with others over their Nuclear program.

It seems the UK when they found out, doesn't feel that way, thus the speaking out and letting the world know of the successful flight and testing of the Iranians missiles.
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Conspiracy of silence over four Iranian nuclear-capable missile tests

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report June 30, 2011, 12:16 PM (GMT+02:00)

Putin imposes secrecy on nuclear Iran

Our Iranian and intelligence sources offer details on the British Foreign Secretary William Hague's allegation Wednesday, June 29, that Iran has carried out secret tests of missiles capable of delivering a nuclear payload in breach of UN resolution 1929:

Three of those tests, four in all, were carried out between October 2010 and February 2011and the fourth on Tuesday, June 28, in the course of the Prophet Mohammed war games currently in progress.
Iran is clearly continuing to upgrade and improve the accuracy of the missiles in its armory that are capable of delivering nuclear warheads.

It was the last test of the four that led Hague to break the Russian-imposed US-Israeli blackout on the critical tests, thereby leaving Iran free to push ahead at top speed with its program for attaining an operational nuclear weapon.

debkafile's military and Moscow sources now report exclusively: In early October 2010, Russian intelligence learned that Iran was about to begin test launches of missiles for carrying nuclear warheads. They reported this to Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

He then took three steps: He conveyed the information to US President Barack Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and bound them to secrecy. With their pledges in hand, he used backdoor intelligence channels to persuade Tehran to refrain from bragging about its dramatic progress and keep the tests of the nuclear-capable missiles quiet in order to avert a world outcry against the violation of all their international commitments. The Iranians bought the deal.

In this way, the Russian leader raised a wall of silence around Iran's advances towards ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads and pre-empted condemnations, Security Council action, and other forms of American, European and Israeli action for keeping a nuclear bomb out of Iranian hands.

This was the last straw – at least for the British government. Hague in consultation with Prime Minister David Cameron went public about what Iran was really up to with a statement to parliament.

debkafile's military sources disclose that Iran has now tested two types of missile for carrying nuclear warheads: the Shahab-3 Kadar and the Sejjil – both powered with solid fuel and having a maximum range of 2,510 kilometers.
Two of the first three tests - one by Sejjil and one by Shahab-3 Kadar - were successful. A third apparently failed. Tuesday of this week the Iranians conducted another successful Shahab-3 test.

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

Jun 30, 2011 6:07:30 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Jun 30, 2011 0:58:39 GMT -5 Shirina said:

What were you hoping for, ed? Perhaps our exhausted military can open up a war on a 4th front? I'm sure that will make our soldiers jump for joy. Of course, if Obama had taken any action against Iran, do you think conservatives like you would have given Obama any credit for it? Of course not. In fact, you'd probably immediately hit the internet looking for a way that Obama somehow violated the Constitution. It's all really quite predictable.

I had asked ed , three times by the way..never a response from him..since he has mentioned the threat to Israel as well as the region, but in his case the threat o Israel of Iran having such a weapon and delivery system..and knowing his disdain for the current POTUS..in a possible scenario..

IF Obama ordered the military to take out Iran's Nuclear capability.would he then change his tactics on Obama, not only praise him, give him credit , even help and support his reelection bid..the man woulds have been responsible for removing one of the GREAT dangers to the State..at great risk to himself politically..

ed never seems to answer me..just ignores me on that one..

...at the risk of sounding glib, dez... it might just be that his IGNORE button is on?

[deziloooooo]

Jun 30, 2011 6:54:11 GMT -5 BeenThere...DoneThat... said:

Jun 30, 2011 6:07:30 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

I had asked ed , three times by the way..never a response from him..since he has mentioned the threat to Israel as well as the region, but in his case the threat o Israel of Iran having such a weapon and delivery system..and knowing his disdain for the current POTUS..in a possible scenario..

IF Obama ordered the military to take out Iran's Nuclear capability.would he then change his tactics on Obama, not only praise him, give him credit , even help and support his reelection bid..the man woulds have been responsible for removing one of the GREAT dangers to the State..at great risk to himself politically..

ed never seems to answer me..just ignores me on that one..

...at the risk of sounding glib, dez... it might just be that his IGNORE button is on?

Naaaa, he has no problem responding to me at other times, just this one..Actually , understanding his attitude toward the man, his real alleged concern of the danger such weapons would have toward Israel, I felt it was a legitimate question, getting to see what is really important to ed in his feelings toward the two events..I guess as much as he wants to get rid of this threat toward Israel, his personals toward the POTUS is just so off the wall..better he just remains silent.. ;D

[djAdvocate]

Jun 29, 2011 23:39:49 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Jun 29, 2011 23:35:17 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Seems the Iranians are more along in delivering a Nuclear war head then some have thought..
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www.debka.com/article/21075/
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Dezi, many here on this board warned of this being the end result, of their nuclear reactors, but as usual, those on the left poo-pooed our concerns and considered us radical rightists.

radical rightists like Obama?

[Value Buy]

Jun 29, 2011 23:51:24 GMT -5 deziloooooo said:

Jun 29, 2011 23:39:49 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Dezi, many here on this board warned of this being the end result, of their nuclear reactors, but as usual, those on the left poo-pooed our concerns and considered us radical rightists.

Again , as one from the left..I can't remember me feeling their research of a nuclear weapon and delivery system was just all hog wash..it is a fact..has been one for a long time...their missle capability was not done on their own, North Korea, China and Russia I am sure helped with their research...

To put a left /right slant on this is just more political clap trap and not helpful for any meaningful discussion..I just don't understand it..not saying you don't have the right to post what ever you want to, but why??

There are enough here who see all things posted here in either a left or right conviction, I am surprised your joining those few who all who read the posts here recognize as soon as they see a particuler NIC posted, the content of the post is known before the post is ever read..

"Oh crap, more BS from ****"...why join those types..not needed..IMHO that is.

The left/right slant?
This is what it is all about.
We said this was the intent, and we were told by the left here, we were wrong.
Not much to add, other, than, we were correct.

[deziloooooo]

where we disagree...I see individuals posting different views, I am not painting all with a paint brush..all libs yadda, yadda, all cons yadda , yadda...

I can only look at it as I do, you and others want to keep with the left /right scism..your/their business..to me it takes away from any discussions, it doesn't enhance them, add to them..

[formerexpat]

It's dangerous to believe another country's intelligence on a subject.

See Germany & Iraq WMD, for example.