Yo! They better hide MrBachmann from the media

[ugonow]

during the campaign....... "When trying to figure out where presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) gets her stringent, anti-gay views, you only have to look as far as her husband. Dr. Marcus Bachmann, who has described himself as his wife’s “strategist,” runs a Christian-based counseling center in Minnesota that has been rumored to offer reparative treatment for those looking to “ungay” themselves.

Just last summer, Dr. Bachmann explained his position on homosexuality while offering theoretical advice to parents concerned that one of their children was gay.

BACHMANN: We have to understand: barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined. Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn’t mean that we are supposed to go down that road. That’s what is called the sinful nature. We have a responsibility as parents and as authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings from moving into the action steps…

And let’s face it: what is our culture, what is our public education system doing today? They are giving full, wide-open doors to children, not only giving encouragement to think it but to encourage action steps. That’s why when we understand what truly is the percentage of homosexuals in this country, it is small. But by these open doors, I can see and we are experiencing, that it is starting to increase.

Listen: thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/06/29/257646/bachmanns-husband-calls-homosexuals-barbarians-who-need-to-be-educated-and-disciplined/

[djAdvocate]

Jun 29, 2011 17:48:11 GMT -5 ugonow said:

during the campaign....... "When trying to figure out where presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) gets her stringent, anti-gay views, you only have to look as far as her husband. Dr. Marcus Bachmann, who has described himself as his wife’s “strategist,” runs a Christian-based counseling center in Minnesota that has been rumored to offer reparative treatment for those looking to “ungay” themselves.

Just last summer, Dr. Bachmann explained his position on homosexuality while offering theoretical advice to parents concerned that one of their children was gay.

BACHMANN: We have to understand: barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined. Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn’t mean that we are supposed to go down that road. That’s what is called the sinful nature. We have a responsibility as parents and as authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings from moving into the action steps…

And let’s face it: what is our culture, what is our public education system doing today? They are giving full, wide-open doors to children, not only giving encouragement to think it but to encourage action steps. That’s why when we understand what truly is the percentage of homosexuals in this country, it is small. But by these open doors, I can see and we are experiencing, that it is starting to increase.

Listen: thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/06/29/257646/bachmanns-husband-calls-homosexuals-barbarians-who-need-to-be-educated-and-disciplined/

when is Michelle Bachmann going to repudiate her husband?

[Shirina]

Barbarians?

Seriously?

[ugonow]

Wonder how much he charges for the cure?

[Deleted]

Sorry... all i can hear it x-men... They're calling it a cure....

You think they'll weaponize it?

[lakhota]

Bachmann’s Husband Calls Homosexuals ‘Barbarians’ Who ‘Need To Be Educated’ And ‘Disciplined’

When trying to figure out where presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) gets her stringent, anti-gay views, you only have to look as far as her husband. Dr. Marcus Bachmann, who has described himself as his wife’s “strategist,” runs a Christian-based counseling center in Minnesota that has been rumored to offer reparative treatment for those looking to “ungay” themselves.

Just last summer, Dr. Bachmann explained his position on homosexuality while offering theoretical advice to parents concerned that one of their children was gay.

BACHMANN: We have to understand: barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined. Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn’t mean that we are supposed to go down that road. That’s what is called the sinful nature. We have a responsibility as parents and as authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings from moving into the action steps…

And let’s face it: what is our culture, what is our public education system doing today? They are giving full, wide-open doors to children, not only giving encouragement to think it but to encourage action steps. That’s why when we understand what truly is the percentage of homosexuals in this country, it is small. But by these open doors, I can see and we are experiencing, that it is starting to increase.

Listen:


Along with offering faith-based counseling at his clinic, Bachmann also gives presentations at various conferences. In November 2005, he and Rep. Bachmann both ran sessions at a “Minnesota Pastors’ Summit” in Eden Prairie, Minnesota: hers focused on the gay marriage amendment she was trying to push through the state legislature, and his was titled “The Truth About the Homosexual Agenda.”

One of the people present for Dr. Bachmann’s talk almost had to leave the room because “there was so much bile.” Curt Prins, a marketing executive who identifies as gay, reported that Bachmann believed homosexuality was a “choice” rather than due to genetics:

The climax of the presentation was when, according to Prins, Bachmann brought up “three ex-gays, like part of a PowerPoint presentation.” The trio, two white men and a black woman, all testified that they had renounced their homosexuality. “One of them said, ‘If I was born gay, then I’ll have to be born again,’” Prins recalls. “The crowd went crazy.”

After seeing her husband’s virulent remarks, it’s no surprise then that Michele Bachmann has fiercely disparaged the gay community and has announced she’s in favor of an anti-gay marriage amendment on the campaign trail. What’s the most terrifying isn’t what Dr. Bachmann said, but the threat that the United States could elect a president who believes that homosexuality can be disciplined out of someone.

thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/06/29/257646/bachmanns-husband-calls-homosexuals-barbarians-who-need-to-be-educated-and-disciplined/

[lakhota]

Did The Bachmann Family Clinic Violate Its Agreement Not To Engage In ‘Religious Based Counseling’?

As ThinkProgress reported yesterday, Rep. Michele Bachmann has not been fully truthful about the government earmarks her family benefited from through her husband’s clinic. That’s not her only problem, however. A review of the government contract reveals that the clinic might have violated a provision in one of its grants, an infringement which could open the door to civil penalties.

When signing the contract, Bachmann & Associates, Inc. agreed to the following provision:

XXIII.3 “GRANTEE agrees that no religious based counseling shall take place under the auspices of this grant.”

On August 23, 2007, Tim Johnson, who Dr. Marcus Bachmann had authorized to represent him, signed this contract. Bachmann & Associates, Inc. agreed to devise and implement a plan to utilize a certain treatment with patients suffering from both a mental illness and a substance-use disorder. In return, the clinic received $24,401 between 2008 and 2009 for both clinician training and the administrative costs associated with the project.

But in its bid to receive a separate government contract that also targeted patients with dual disorders, Bachmann & Associates, Inc. described the treatment program that the clinic offered as “faith-based.” The proposal even warns that “clients will need to be comfortable with counseling and education emphasizing spiritual growth utilizing Christian language concepts.”

The program plan included a section detailing just what the faith-based aspect of the treatment would look like:

It will be utilizing Christian concepts and language that some non-Christians might be uncomfortable with…Church involvement will be encouraged and clients will be encouraged to utilize their church as a source of support and accountability. Local members of Christian recovery groups will routinely share their recovery process and be available as mentors. Groups will include short opening and closing prayers. The concept of God or HP will often be referred to in a Christian manner by both staff and clients.

The treatment plan should come as no surprise when compared with the clinic’s self-promotion. On its website, the Bachmann counseling center presents itself as “providing all clients with quality Christian counseling.” And just last year, Dr. Bachmann said his clinic employs “twenty-six Christian, pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage counselors” who are driven by the belief that “the undeniable truth and the godly principles of truth in God’s work should direct our path.” In his personal mission statement, Bachmann wrote, “I believe my call is to minister to the needs of people in a practical, effective, and sensitive way. Christ is the Almighty Counselor” (emphasis in original).

Out of 19 counselors listed on the website, twelve counselors mention God, Christ or the Lord in their personal mission statement. Four others include the role of spirit or faith in their counseling processes. Six employees quote Bible verses. If the clinic, its staff, its programs and its owner, Dr. Bachmann himself, are emphasizing that Bachmann & Associates, Inc is a Christian-based counseling center, what evidence suggests that the clinic did not offer Christian-based counseling when dealing with the patients specified under the state grant?

thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/30/257489/bachmann-clinic-proselytize/

[privateinvestor]

Lakhota you are a few days late again we have a thread on this issue already by ugonow



Yo! They better hide MrBachmann from the media



www.notmsnmoney.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=politics&action=display&thread=10685

[handyman2]

I disagree with him on one point and agree with him on another. I do not agree with him that homosexuality is a choice. I believe it is genetic. However alcoholism can also be genetic. the point is that just because both may have a genetic root that does not mean a person is a slave to it. they can chose not to practice them.
From a cost stand point it is a big cost to the tax payers by those in prison. I ask a doctor in a prison hospital what cases were the most common. he said injuries from fights, treating aids from homosexual activity and hemorrhoid surgeries from homosexual activity. This was a male prison of course. But you the tax payer pays for it.

[Deleted]

Sex? Or rape? ... Are all men in prison homosexual? Or is it an issue of availability? In short, I'm not convinced this is a homosexual problem.

[cereb]

Jun 29, 2011 17:48:11 GMT -5 ugonow said:

during the campaign....... "When trying to figure out where presidential candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) gets her stringent, anti-gay views, you only have to look as far as her husband. Dr. Marcus Bachmann, who has described himself as his wife’s “strategist,” runs a Christian-based counseling center in Minnesota that has been rumored to offer reparative treatment for those looking to “ungay” themselves.

Just last summer, Dr. Bachmann explained his position on homosexuality while offering theoretical advice to parents concerned that one of their children was gay.

BACHMANN: We have to understand: barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined. Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn’t mean that we are supposed to go down that road. That’s what is called the sinful nature. We have a responsibility as parents and as authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings from moving into the action steps…

And let’s face it: what is our culture, what is our public education system doing today? They are giving full, wide-open doors to children, not only giving encouragement to think it but to encourage action steps. That’s why when we understand what truly is the percentage of homosexuals in this country, it is small. But by these open doors, I can see and we are experiencing, that it is starting to increase.

Listen: thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/06/29/257646/bachmanns-husband-calls-homosexuals-barbarians-who-need-to-be-educated-and-disciplined/

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAWAWAWAWWAWAWAW!!!!!


I said on Monday she wouldn't be able to keep her "crazy" in check for long but holy smokes it hasn't even been a week!

[Shirina]

Sex? Or rape? ... Are all men in prison homosexual? Or is it an issue of availability? In short, I'm not convinced this is a homosexual problem.

Most people who are anti-gay believe that homosexuality and the sex act are one and the same.

[henryclay]

Shirina said:

Most people who are anti-gay believe that homosexuality and the sex act are one and the same.

I wonder if there is any evidence anywhere to validate that statement, or is it another blanket accusation?

Weren't we admonished a couple of days ago to have evidence to validate our blanket accusations?

Or is it okay if someone says something like, "Most people may believe homosexuality is normal, but also that there is no such thing as consensual sex among neophyte homosexuals, and therefore it would be rape."

[Shirina]

I wonder if there is any evidence anywhere to validate that statement, or is it another blanket accusation?

Your penchant for being blind to the obvious is really quite amazing. The fact that the prison warden admitted that treating conditions due to "homosexual behavior" is evidence.

Do you think that these gang rapists in prison are falling in love with their victims?

[handyman2]

It goes like this in prison. The weaker ones and gays buy protection by becoming the wife of a bull. Although all are not gay many due to sharing needles contact HIV. Thus through association pass the HIV through the population. Not all are gay but there is a goodly number, they are intent on staying alive and currying favors.

[Shirina]

Not all are gay but there is a goodly number, they are intent on staying alive and currying favors.

Like I said, just because they have homosexual sex does not make them "gay."