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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 10:47:02 GMT -5
Wrong! 2+2 =4 is not subjective and it's right and correct. Only if you are talking about math.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 10:48:24 GMT -5
Wrong! 2+2 =4 is not subjective and it's right and correct. Only if you are talking about math.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 10:50:29 GMT -5
I guess you could potentially say human being is alive because the word being means live... and so a human being is a live human...
However... that in NO WAY suggests that a FETUS is a human being. I said a fetus was NOT a being... YOU said it was... You can't prove a fetus alive, but proving a human being alive... because a fetus is not a human being...
I do thank you though, i'm always looking for a good example of what 'begging the question' really means... thanks for giving me one...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 10:52:53 GMT -5
I guess you could potentially say human being is alive because the word being means live... and so a human being is a live human...
However... that in NO WAY suggests that a FETUS is a human being. I said a fetus was NOT a being... YOU said it was... You can't prove a fetus alive, but proving a human being alive... because a fetus is not a human being...
I do thank you though, i'm always looking for a good example of what 'begging the question' really means... thanks for giving me one...
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Post by pepper112765 on Jun 21, 2011 10:55:21 GMT -5
Arizona: The "unborn child in the womb at any stage of its development" is fully covered by the state's murder and manslaughter statutes. For purposes of establishing the level of punishment, a victim who is "an unborn child shall be treated like a minor who is under twelve years of age." Senate Bill 1052, signed into law on April 25, 2005, amending the following sections of the Arizona Revised Statutes: 13-604, 13-604.01, 13-703, 13-1102, 13-1103, 13-1104, 13-1105, 13-4062, 31-412, 41-1604.11 and 41-1604.13.
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 10:58:42 GMT -5
Oped are you reading my replies? You seem to be incherent if you are because your reply has nothing to do with my replies. I defined "being" from the dictionary. If you don't trust the dictionary then you become impossible to debate with. Lets all assign our own definitions like you do. Archie if I tell you the sky is green am I right or wrong? That's not math. You are wrong once again sir.
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 10:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 10:59:23 GMT -5
This message has been deleted by Archie's mom.
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 10:59:39 GMT -5
This message has been deleted by Archies sister in law.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:08:56 GMT -5
Sheesh, you just have to ask once.
Only if you agree as to what the color green is. A color blind person may not agree with you.
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 11:10:13 GMT -5
Sorry, the boards are running very slow.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:16:08 GMT -5
Oped: However, a fetus is not a human being
Pig: Great! Now explain why it isn't. I'm dying to hear how you came to this conclusion.
Oped: a fetus is not alive
Pig: Science would disagree. Pig: I can see you never had a course in biology. Please look up the definition of life and you'll find I'm quite right.
So... basically, i have been saying that a fetus is not a human being, because it is not alive, and does not conform with the biological definition of life.
You have been saying that a fetus is a human being, because a being is 'live'... ?? ...
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 11:28:51 GMT -5
"So... basically, i have been saying that a fetus is not a human being, because it is not alive, and does not conform with the biological definition of life."
No that's not what you said, are you saying this now? There is no doubt that a fetus is alive. You are claiming a fetus is not alive? That's outrageous silly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:30:39 GMT -5
I have claimed since the begining that a fetus is not alive. That is what i said all along. Those quotes are taken from THIS conversation. The fetus is NOT a human being. It may be living tissue in the sense that it a sperm or a mole is living tissue... but it does not have an existance of its own and is not a human being.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:31:03 GMT -5
You cannot define 'life' with the word 'live'...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:32:08 GMT -5
I'm glad I have my POV on this aspect of killing the unborn. Much easier to defend..
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 11:32:32 GMT -5
I did not. I used the dictionary definition for "being" which is what we were discussing. I think you've become confused.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:33:04 GMT -5
Maybe next we can discuss our opinions on killing the undead? They should be just about as relavant...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:33:27 GMT -5
I'm glad I have my POV on this aspect of killing the unborn. Much easier to defend.. But imagine if there was no one on the other side to argue with. Ok, nevermind. It is too scary. Don't try and imagine it. ;D
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 11:33:53 GMT -5
It may be living tissue in the sense that it a sperm
Wrong again. Sperm does not fall under the definition of alive. It does not eat, procreate etc etc. Where did you get this silly idea?
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 21, 2011 11:34:30 GMT -5
Sheesh, you just have to ask once. Only if you agree as to what the color green is. A color blind person may not agree with you. I used to piss people off when they got in to a discussion of color. Please describe what green is and the difference between green-blue and green. Sometimes it can be fun being color blind.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:35:15 GMT -5
Yes, i must have been confused when you stated, flat out... look up the definition of LIFE...
You can not define life with the word 'live' ... You can not look up the word being, and suggest that that is the meaning of life. You can use the definition of being to define human being, in so much as a human being is a human that has existance and is alive. However, that in no way suggests a FETUS is a living human being... it begs the question...
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 11:35:51 GMT -5
Please describe what green is and the difference between green-blue and green. About 100 nanometers. nyuk nyuk.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:36:21 GMT -5
Oh, a wise guy, eh?
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 11:36:45 GMT -5
Yes, i must have been confused
So we agree! Stop back pedalling and tell me again what's your problem with the definition for "being"?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:36:55 GMT -5
So now you are again saying the 'definition of alive' ... as if you ever offered one... I'm kind of glad if your sperm were never living Pig...
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Post by pig on Jun 21, 2011 11:42:19 GMT -5
It's difficult having a debate with someone who is confused about "alive" and "being" Shall I learn you?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:43:04 GMT -5
Arguing semantics are fun, but this one is ridiculous. You two should be shamed.
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 21, 2011 11:43:14 GMT -5
Pig,
This isn't EE
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2011 11:44:37 GMT -5
This is not semantics Archie... this is differentiation and accuracy of definitions...
... but you can shame me if you want to...
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