Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger
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Post by Aman A.K.A. Ahamburger on Jul 2, 2011 1:16:41 GMT -5
Sun that whole site is something else. Balance.
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Post by smackdown on Jul 2, 2011 7:01:35 GMT -5
"Only 4% of college educated are unemployed?"
First... since most college graduates were STUDENTS prior to graduation, the count for unemployed is skewed by a lack of existence in the statistics. You can't be "unemployed" if you were never part of the work force. Second... there was a whole lot of rambling on about what college-types are doing at work-- sounds like they have the SERVICE area completely covered while doing NONE of the true work that sustains ANY society and economy. Pushing paper and pressing buttons is facilitation not fundamental labor. Lastly... 1940's? That was your Great Grandpa. Your DAD worked building the structure of the administrative area you value as "employment". Without a "degree", he managed to generate substance in the WHOLE REALM of what is overly fractured and departmental-ized today.
College is for becoming a doctor. Trade school is where you learn Plumbing. If you want to work in Business or Finance, you start at the bottom, learn what all the crooks before you did to create all the laws you must adhere to now. No degree required but a knack for COMMON SENSE is a plus.
Wal-Mart is losing out because it hires ham and eggers, or people who prefer to coast along rather than use it as a stepping stone. You may hate unions but it's structure is nearly identical to one. A union supports mediocrity. A Wal-Mart markets it and programs it's staff to emulate it.
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decoy409
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Post by decoy409 on Jul 2, 2011 10:07:18 GMT -5
Good stuff V_L and well put.
Anybody thinking that pushing buttons is the jobs to cover the worlforce of the US better get their cards in order.
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decoy409
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Post by decoy409 on Jul 2, 2011 11:51:48 GMT -5
Say V_L, so since we do not need any of these things from Wal Mart (and other of the likes),why just not boot them out of town. Why then we can determine what we really need coming in by good old fashioned 'Supply/Demand' and in turn produce those things right back here in the good old US and screw the rest!
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Post by smackdown on Jul 3, 2011 6:48:44 GMT -5
"since we do not need any of these things from Wal Mart (and other of the likes),why just not boot them out of town"
FIRST, comes the flavor of the approaching elections. Some choices are: eliminate ALL candidates backed by big wealth for divisiveness. Once the cruds and duds are gone, focus intently on getting warranties on the promises surviving candidates make.
Here it is-- we recover by recreating solvency at the local level. Thus, an area retains its status as a municipality ONLY when it-- grows some food that can sustain it's population as a supplement. Next is the fundamental right of ALL citizens to know necessities intimately and that REQUIRES them to be manufactured where close inspection and assurance of quality exists. I don't need my trees cut down and shipped to China so they can be pulverized and bleached with dioxin and later imported as the paper plates I bring to a picnic.
By simply focusing on recovery where we live, pariah businesses like Wal-Mart and other platforms get squeezed out like the puss-filled pimples and boils they have become. It will also be important to mandate ANY corporation whose Founder leaves or passes, be PURCHASED AT ASSET MARKET VALUE or liquidated. Never again can we allow straw wealth to attach itself as Board Directors or hired-in Executive Management. You were HIRED, losers... that makes YOU an employee not an exception and beholden to the At Will Employment Act-- which cannot be enforced because YOU are one, so it goes because it blows-- like a bunch of other corporate-crafted laws.
We needed Wal-Mart to know how far we could go off the balanced and stable national path. It's a trash business that never should have been and I believe it's Founder would have agreed with me.
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Post by frankq on Jul 3, 2011 9:44:21 GMT -5
"Oh and Moon,I see that I am continued to be called decoy and that is not insult correct?"
So.....did you change your name to a symbol like Prince or something?
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Post by frankq on Jul 3, 2011 9:46:53 GMT -5
You guys can talk about factories and jobs all you want, but until be get a handle on ILLEGALS, the only people manning those jobs, should they come back, will speak Spanish.
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Post by smackdown on Jul 4, 2011 7:08:42 GMT -5
The use of the word-- "illegals" is very much like the "liberal" reference. It's a low-brow glop for minds that have stopped evolving. Every new ethnicity into our society breeds prolifically because they are no longer as suppressed as in the land they came from. Not everyone is here illegally and in fact, most of those who were have gone back because the legal ones have enjoyed enough self-growth to want and warrant distinction. At this weekend's fireworks display, the police took down the European White scum brandishing the illegal pistol amid the mixed ethnicity families who brought picnic baskets. People here illegally were NEVER the problem, employers who hired illegal aliens to undermine the American workforce are the major criminals we need expunged from society.
Patstab... think just beyond your comment. We are reeling already from huge decay in housing values and a game of false valuation played by REITS artificially upholding commercial property values. There will be severe issues when Wal-Mart stores nationwide and Reality begin to collide. After taking out all of our smaller businesses through product and price monopolization, they will leave behind huge box store locations useless for any new purpose. It could take the rest of the century to recover from the terrorism caused by Big Business and financial-earners without tangible useful skill sets beyond money grubbing.
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decoy409
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Post by decoy409 on Jul 4, 2011 8:41:02 GMT -5
'It is only recently that we have experienced such a massive influx of illegal aliens in our history.' It is? This would seem to be a statement as that old assuption made in,'plunge' in metals. Recently? Why 3 years back I had already ran 'the past 50 years' as to the Mexico border and the 50 million plus to date that have entered illegally into the US. So the word 'recently' is being applied as 'plunge' in word usage. Brilliant!
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decoy409
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Post by decoy409 on Jul 4, 2011 12:21:51 GMT -5
Your hilarious! "I use the word "recently" in a historical context, as in the last 20-40 years. We have never in the past had an illegal alien invasion like the current one coming from Mexico and South America." Just don't fly as 3 years back over at MSN MT you mocked and poked when I brought 50 years of illegalls from Mexico coming in. 3-4 years? To funny.
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dumdeedoe
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Post by dumdeedoe on Jul 4, 2011 22:59:20 GMT -5
Hey don't u go messin' with my 35 dollar a week lawn service...
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Post by smackdown on Jul 5, 2011 6:57:34 GMT -5
"It is only recently that we have experienced such a massive influx of illegal aliens in our history."
No. While indeed many immigrants came through Ellis Island, tens of thousands more walked in or rowed over from Canada. I also noted your off-the-cuff reference to the Constitution. Rather than flexibility, it would be better to employ the word- relevance. If you are a lawyer as you infer with the "legal" reference, I am truly sorry. Lawyers start off with wide-eyes and a desire to balance us with Justice for All, but wind up very closed-minded and bitter. I have friend-lawyers who take me to lunch to learn human interaction again. Most times they fail to finish the sandwich without some sort of asinine sarcasm infused with the baloney. I brush off the crumbs, digress back to where we went astray, forgive and forget and enjoy lunch with them again on another day. The best lawyers know they are scum and work to recover some level of civility.
I might add that large sections of our American Southwest were settled by Meso-Americans before statehood. Criminal types from as far as Tennessee came as terrorists and maintained law-less in these territories, often labeling settlers as Injuns and killing them. The Pilgrims were here illegally, but they wound up with a turkey dinner. Maybe YOUR approach to immigration just needs renovation.
"Hey don't u go messin' with my 35 dollar a week lawn service..."
Only in America do we find someone dumb enough to pay $35 weekly for lawn service and another $35 weekly for a gym membership. At least the lawn guys are there with consistency. Latino immigrants in my area have established themselves in a few farmer markets. Great offerings with additional flavor.
The major problem person in America is an aged crusty who will invest in Wal-Mart but not be caught dead shopping there and condemns those who do. You bear the right to be the same as the rest of us, there is no exception to that in the Constitution, only in the GOP Manual.
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The Virginian
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"Formal education makes you a living, self education makes you a fortune."
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Post by The Virginian on Jul 5, 2011 7:36:22 GMT -5
One of our major suppliers - Creative Converting - is now making all its Paper Napkins, plates and cups in the USA again. Some of its plastics also. We are going to put up signage to reflect this. Wallys and the Supermarkets, Dollar Stores are still getting theirs from China! Not much difference in price to support America.
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Post by dumdeedoe on Jul 5, 2011 19:27:05 GMT -5
I read in National geographics awhile back that walmart was 9% of chinas gnp. I wonder if that is true?
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