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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 15:30:09 GMT -5
still listening to that/\. it is a BRILLIANT analysis.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 15:24:38 GMT -5
for those of you interested in the SCOTUS case, i recommend watching this:
i have found Popak to be right almost always. and i think he is right here. this will be referred back to either appeals or Chutkan. i hope it goes back to Chutkan for reasons i will give later.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 15:23:15 GMT -5
you didn't answer the question. if Trump were in the WH, and Biden was facing 88 felony counts, would you be taking the position that it was an unjust political persecution? there is zero evidence to back up your final assertion. there is STRONG evidence that the only reason Trump is running is to lessen his odds of getting held to account. have you considered that? As I said above, I would side with Biden if the roles were reversed and faced malicious prosecution. ah, ok. so you would side would both. i would side with neither. that really is quite a difference. for the record, i don't believe in malicious prosecution, in the general sense, nor do i believe it in this specific sense. therefore, i am going to side with the Judicial branch over anyone that THINKS they are being prosecuted maliciously. if there is malicious prosecution, it can be appealed. that is how it works. so, from this, i gather you don't believe in the judiciary. how odd.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:53:27 GMT -5
to be clear, if the tables were turned, i would not be taking Biden's side. my side is in favor of the courts and justice, the ONLY remaining branch of government that is still functioning, and only by a thread.
i reserve the right to reverse that position if the SCOTUS upholds absolute immunity for the president.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:51:21 GMT -5
note to rip and others:
i would appreciate it if you would refrain from bringing in (wildly) off-topic subjects to this thread, as it diminishes the value of this thread as a resource for myself and others on the board.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:44:30 GMT -5
Did they have to start telling the truth since the settlement to Dominion? I was under the impression Fox became part of the deep state after calling the election for Biden and MAGA turned on them. they have a couple of smart, incisive liberals in their programming now. they also have jettisoned Tucker J6 Carlson and the sexual predators. that probably helps attract a small number of liberals, as well.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:42:35 GMT -5
congrats! they are only trailing NPR by 75% now! a whole 2M viewers a week, approximately 1.5% of the voting population!!! WOW!!!! (sarcasm off) FOX is the #1 among Cable News. that makes them the Keuffel & Esser of news media. if you don't know that name, look it up.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2024 12:37:33 GMT -5
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP? There are 2 sides to a coin. I just happen to have the other side than you do. And I would side with anyone facing obvious malicious prosecution. This is nothing more than a blatant scheme to keep Trump off the campaign trail by any means. you didn't answer the question. if Trump were in the WH, and Biden was facing 88 felony counts, would you be taking the position that it was an unjust political persecution? there is zero evidence to back up your final assertion. there is STRONG evidence that the only reason Trump is running is to lessen his odds of getting held to account. have you considered that?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 27, 2024 18:39:37 GMT -5
COPJ, long
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 27, 2024 18:22:07 GMT -5
Is that the wording you meant to use? Because thinking "this is a private decision that needs to be left to the mom, the dad, and the healthcare provider to decide" is pretty much the exact definition of pro-choice. One can hold no opinion personally either for or against abortion per se, if that is what you meant. I meant I wished we lived in a society where abortion was not subject to public discussion at all, and what you or I or anyone else thought would be just as unimportant as what your favorite beer is or what brand of shoes I like. Private things should be private, and a person’s medical issues are some of the most private things of all (hence the HIPAA laws). you lived in one. for almost 50 years. now you don't. the only remaining question is if we settle for turning our country over to the dominionist horde.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 27, 2024 18:18:23 GMT -5
for the record, i was PISSED when the case was dropped a couple of years back. the previous DA (Vance) had it GIFTWRAPPED for Bragg. but Bragg, for whatever reason, didn't feel he had enough to bring it. there was some piece of key evidence that came early last year that shifted him. i can't remember what it was. but i was happy to hear that he was looking into it again, and even happier he brought it.
this is probably the weakest case against Trump. if it sticks, the likelihood that all 88 charges will stick is quite high.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 27, 2024 14:11:19 GMT -5
This sums up the reason for the trial. Sorry but cant figure out to post this political image.
sorry, but the NY court does not march to the orders of Biden. Bragg is not a Biden appointee, doesn't work for the DOJ, etc. he also sat on this case for 2 years before he brought it. was that ALSO Biden's fault? you really need to stop regurgitating Trump talking points. this one, in particular, is utterly absurd. Trump is on trial because of his crimes. no other reason. let me ask you this, rip- if a BIDEN were on trial for the same crimes, and TRUMP was president, would you be making the same case against TRUMP?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 27, 2024 14:04:00 GMT -5
I admit I haven’t had a lot of time to focus much on this current trial, but I was reading a synopsis the other day that said Cohen asked Pecker to pay the play boy model ( sorry can’t remember her name) 180,000 bucks for the exclusive right to her story about being in an affair with Trump. Trump was supposed to pay him back. Pecker paid her the money. Then, a while later, Stormy Daniels showed up and Cohen asked Pecker to pay her 130,000 for her exclusive story. Pecker refused, saying he didn’t want to have anything to do with a porn star, and Cohen ended up paying Stormy himself, and then Trump gave Cohen 130,000 disguised as a legal fee payment. What I haven’t seen is if Trump ever paid Pecker back for that 180,000 he paid out to the playboy model? If not, isn’t that such a typical Trump move, getting someone else to pay for him? And is that part of the charge of undeclared campaign donations - that 180,000 being used to shut down a scandal that would damage Trump’s campaign? Sorry I know this is probably out there somewhere but there are just so many articles about this stupid trial, and all the ones I’ve read talk about Pecker paying for the playboy model but never circling back and saying whether or not Trump paid him back, and my curiosity is getting the better of me. McDougal. as far as i know, he didn't pay him back. which means that the fee would be considered a campaign contribution. which means all kinds of stuff that you can probably ascertain for yourself.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 17:09:02 GMT -5
question to the SCOTUS: why do you entertain such patently stupid cases?
just curious.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 17:07:07 GMT -5
huh? within the last month, he has said ON RECORD that he has more than $175M IN CASH. i actually believe him. ergo, he can post his own bond. he does not NEED a middleman. of course, he might be lying. maybe? You do? I have come to believe (possibly erroneously) that tbe way he gets his wealth number is by adding up every penny he ever had, every penny he has right now, every penny he thinks he may possibly receive at any time in the future. Then take that total, add a vanity amount to it and and bingo, bango he is rich, RICH, RICH I tell you. But maybe I should not have attended Trump University? It may have distorted my math skills a wee bit LOL ok, so maybe he is lying about this, too. i have no idea how much cash he has. but i know he lies about everything else associated with his wealth. why not this?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:35:32 GMT -5
OMG! i was wondering if that might happen, given the +market. wow. i feel weird congratulating KD, but i am gonna risk it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:33:19 GMT -5
why? why did you put it this way? a hung jury is generally a miscarriage of justice. why not hope that he can sway TWELVE jurors? would that not be a better, more just hope? Rip probably doesn't understand that a prosecutor can choose to retry the case with another jury. I bet that he would be retried if there is a hung jury. But Trump would whine about how unfair that would be also. not only can he, he WILL. and QUICKLY. this thing would go to trial AGAIN in advance of Election Day. i can virtually guarantee it. which means even less time for him to blather in public, and more money pouring out of RNC coffers. it really is a lose-lose if you are a Republican. and no, i am not joking about it. i really feel that way.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:30:16 GMT -5
you are one of a handful of posters here that cuts right through about seven layers of soft padding and draws blood. i admire that. this is really it, isn't it? if you are not getting educated in furtherance of the dollar and/or the C Suite, then you should probably just get sterilized, or die, whichever is quicker. you know, in France, there is a tradition of cherishing the eccentric? you can find the same thing in India, where the Fakir is paid alms, even by the poor. here? we step over crazy people wetting themselves on the street and lock them up in prisons. meanwhile, seriously ill meaning individuals are one step away from the ultimate power. it is enough to make you turn your back on America. isn't it? Yikes. To all of that. 🥴 just extrapolating your point. i hope i didn't offend you.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:24:02 GMT -5
Trump's attorneys got to select from the jurors as well. Remember he only needs ONE to think he's innocent. The prosecution needs to convince all 12. One can only hope and pray the defense does a great job and sways at least 1 juror. why? why did you put it this way? a hung jury is generally a miscarriage of justice. why not hope that he can sway TWELVE jurors? would that not be a better, more just hope?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:22:47 GMT -5
huh? within the last month, he has said ON RECORD that he has more than $175M IN CASH. i actually believe him. ergo, he can post his own bond. he does not NEED a middleman. of course, he might be lying. maybe?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:18:56 GMT -5
The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
Trump's attorneys got to select from the jurors as well. Remember he only needs ONE to think he's innocent. The prosecution needs to convince all 12. and this is how it SHOULD be. as Franklin put it- it is better than 100 men go free than one innocent man be convicted. Trump has always been given the short odds, and he is given them now. if he fails to get the best of them, that is HIS doing, not justice's.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:17:14 GMT -5
The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
This isn't a "vote" on his politics, it's a "vote" on his criminality. Did he commit a crime, or not? Hopefully the chosen jurors were selected precisely for their ability to decide based on the evidence, not their partisanship. a failure to seat a fair jury is the fault of the defense, not the venue.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:16:12 GMT -5
The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
So you agree that an all white jury is incapable of fairly deciding a case against a black defendant? Careful, you are starting to sound like a “liberal” Crimes are tried in the jurisdiction they are committed. That has always been the case. Sucks for Trump I guess. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time i think we are all dancing around the issue here. fair doesn't mean that we have to like Trump. fair means that the law is applied evenly. i have ZERO doubt that Trump can get a fair trial. ZERO. in fact, if anything, i think him prancing around in public denigrating the judicial system is BEYOND fair. it shows undue favor to Trump.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:11:40 GMT -5
The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
You choose to forget certain things like the number of nonvoters generally is greater than the number of voters in most areas of the country. Manhattan is no different. This is from Google on the 2020 election. Manhattan: In Manhattan, there were approximately 260,000 votes cast for president. This accounted for about 21% of eligible voters in the borough
Second, jury selection is not representative of the general public in most trials. So yes it is possible for him to get a fair trial in NYC. just because MAGA would not give him a fair trial does not mean the rest of us would. as i said before, i am pro-drug use. i sat in a jury over a drug offender. but my job was to execute the law. if i feel the law should not be executed FOR MYSELF, then that is one matter. for someone else? that is what i was there for.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:09:39 GMT -5
i hate to do this, because it seems like i am siding with MAGA here, but i feel compelled to respond. MAGA has been behaving in a certain way for nearly a decade now. they treat outsiders with extreme disrespect that comes off as hostile. and this has just become the NORM for them. so, when Trump does it, they (and i need to qualify "they", which i will do, below) don't see it as weird, threatening, unusual, or possibly illegal. it is as normal as breathing to them. when i say "they", however, i mean the people that are just in it for the fun, the humor, or the "fuck-you-ee-ness" of being MAGA. they would never march on the capital, or beat up a liberal, or do anything stupid to ruin their quiet little MAGA lives. unfortunately, there is a subset of MAGA which is not "they". that subset is absolutely down with all of the above behaviour. they are the folks that stormed the capital. they are the guy who bashed in Peolsi's head. they are the guys and gals planning thwarted attacks. and, unfortunately, "they" don't seem to understand that they exist, or even identify with them. "they" think that they are ANTIFA or something. so when Trump says things like he does, "they" don't understand how it is a threat, because "they" talk that way to their family, friends, coworkers, and other MAGA. it seems fine to them, even though it is not. Even "they" have to see the difference between their mouthing off and those that stormed the Capital by now. They might not have the balls to do it themselves but they wish they did. "They" know what's going on. you think so? their veins seem to be being fed a steady stream of Kool Aid.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 26, 2024 15:08:13 GMT -5
I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
Wouldn’t matter what venue or what judge. Trump would still spend his early morning hours bitching about it, regardless. It’s not the venue and not the judge, it’s the fact that he’s being held accountable for his actions like any other dumb fuck that’s making him furious. He’s The Donald. People call him ‘sir.’ No one ever charged him criminally before, and it shouldn’t be happening now. he prefers The Boss, you peon. (just kidding, of course)
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 25, 2024 21:49:48 GMT -5
i have always contended that a degree just says "i know how to learn". it doesn't really matter what your degree is in. i had an MSE degree, but i only use it about 10% of my day. the other 90% i could get by with an AS in Math. i happen to think that none of that is what makes me successful, though. it is the fact that i am insatiably curious that makes me successful, imo. if i don't get something, i just keep studying it until i get it. so far, the only nut i have not cracked is people. but i continue trying. i am also quite patient. He originally wanted to be a luthier - someone who creates violins. But no traditional colleges have that program, only specialty schools where there's no financial aid. So that's how he picked the school he went to, they had a woodworking degree, figured it would teach him the techniques, and application was something he could pursue later. His odd employment history is because he throws himself into something, masters it, and then grows bored once he's optimized it and it grows routine. He's always looking for new challenges. Lots of experimentation with 3D printers and making mockups of stuff, especially props/costumes for Comic Con. A fellow art major has done some interesting stuff for movies, with prosthetics and makeup. She has to mass produce prosthetics because actors go thru so many during a project, yet they are custom designed for individuals. My cousin's son is another graduate of the school's art program - he does digital ad animation. Art degree is a really broad field. he sounds like a great kid, and my kind of person. congratulations! you must be proud!
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 25, 2024 21:48:32 GMT -5
you're different. i like you. edit: you win, with a score of 7. i realized afterwards that i should have scored MINE a 2. i am pretty interested in VN. ever since i saw that Lara Croft movie. amazing architecture and scenery. and i am a sucker for ancient structures. I missed this earlier. The part of the movie you are talking about was filmed in Cambodia, near the Angkor Wat complex. I forgot which temple complex* this was exactly but they are relatively close to each other. Absolutely worth visiting. But take some electrolyte powder to add to your drinking water. I have never been as hot and sweated as much as I did during the days I spend there! *Ta Prohm and it is within the greater Angkor Wat complex . I seem to remember it was separate. Either way - easily reachable from Siem Reap you didn't miss it. i added it. that's right. Cambodia. i remember now. i will PM you if i get super interested. right now, i am still trying to figure out where i am going to live! LOL!
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 25, 2024 18:33:45 GMT -5
I noticed the opening price for third place has not been showing correctly so that error is now corrected. boo! i was enjoying the weirdness of that quirk.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 25, 2024 18:19:56 GMT -5
Or maybe you should only be getting student loans for decent income generating fields like medical, law, engineering. Teaching degrees can get student loans with a 20 year payback with a forgiveness at the end of they did alot of continuing education. Stuff like the arts and bullshit degrees they should get no loans for. That would help elevate some of this. The whole system needs to have an overhaul The only loans that people should pay are the ones that will make billionaires wealthier. Maybe the companies that need those types of people should pay for the schooling of all of them - not through salaries, but through grants or endowments. Leave the art world for people who are beautiful and care about such things. you are one of a handful of posters here that cuts right through about seven layers of soft padding and draws blood. i admire that. this is really it, isn't it? if you are not getting educated in furtherance of the dollar and/or the C Suite, then you should probably just get sterilized, or die, whichever is quicker. you know, in France, there is a tradition of cherishing the eccentric? you can find the same thing in India, where the Fakir is paid alms, even by the poor. here? we step over crazy people wetting themselves on the street and lock them up in prisons. meanwhile, seriously ill meaning individuals are one step away from the ultimate power. it is enough to make you turn your back on America. isn't it?
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