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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 14, 2011 14:37:51 GMT -5
It just struck me as weird that the President of the United States would inject himself into the discussion about a penis wagging pervert. The things he chooses to address are often kind of degrading to the office or insulting to Americans.
He didn't need to comment but he did. What for?
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Post by ed1066 on Jun 14, 2011 14:41:02 GMT -5
Pathological narcissism...
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Post by pepper112765 on Jun 14, 2011 14:46:39 GMT -5
Probably because he was asked.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 14, 2011 15:01:43 GMT -5
Probably because he was asked. LOL he's asked plenty of question he doesn't answer . . . |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 16:04:45 GMT -5
Is it legal for the President to answer some but not all the questions? I thought the moment someone becomes the POTUS they lose all rights to what they can or cannot comment on. It has to be decided by conservatives and the POTUS can only follow a prepared script. Am I wrong?
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 14, 2011 16:06:18 GMT -5
Is it legal for the President to answer some but not all the questions? I thought the moment someone becomes the POTUS they lose all rights to what they can or cannot comment on. It has to be decided by conservatives and the POTUS can only follow a prepared script. Am I wrong?  |
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 14, 2011 17:19:14 GMT -5
As the figurehead of the Democratic Party, I would actually expect the President to step forward and address a political faux paus. In this he knows most if not all the facts (facts that you or I as not top tier DNC member do not have access to), it was the right thing to do. He should have gone farther than "If I were in his shoes" and simply called for Rep. Weiner to end the media circus for the best of his family and the best of his constituency.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 14, 2011 17:29:14 GMT -5
As the figurehead of the Democratic Party, I would actually expect the President to step forward and address a political faux paus. In this he knows most if not all the facts (facts that you or I as not top tier DNC member do not have access to), it was the right thing to do. He should have gone farther than "If I were in his shoes" and simply called for Rep. Weiner to end the media circus for the best of his family and the best of his constituency. I agree that tying himself to the idea of what Weiner did was a bumble. "If it was me.. ." Why would he even identify himself with such actions? That's the part that I thought was unpresidential. I doubt a Republican president would have commented personally. There's plenty of ways to get the word out without having to associate with this icky activity. K anyway because you made your point very well, CME. |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 17:31:12 GMT -5
As the figurehead of the Democratic Party, I would actually expect the President to step forward and address a political faux paus. In this he knows most if not all the facts (facts that you or I as not top tier DNC member do not have access to), it was the right thing to do. He should have gone farther than "If I were in his shoes" and simply called for Rep. Weiner to end the media circus for the best of his family and the best of his constituency.Weiner's family is not Obama's business. Weiner's constituents want him to stay. Next! |
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 14, 2011 17:32:10 GMT -5
As the figurehead of the Democratic Party, I would actually expect the President to step forward and address a political faux paus. In this he knows most if not all the facts (facts that you or I as not top tier DNC member do not have access to), it was the right thing to do. He should have gone farther than "If I were in his shoes" and simply called for Rep. Weiner to end the media circus for the best of his family and the best of his constituency. I agree that tying himself to the idea of what Weiner did was a bumble. "If it was me.. ." Why would he even identify himself with such actions? That's the part that I thought was unpresidential. No it was illustrative, instead of being direct, he was eluding to what needs to be done with out directly saying it. |
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 14, 2011 17:32:23 GMT -5
Yeah, Lunacy, the NOW hags want him to be their poster boy. ;D  |
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 14, 2011 17:33:45 GMT -5
I agree that tying himself to the idea of what Weiner did was a bumble. "If it was me.. ." Why would he even identify himself with such actions? That's the part that I thought was unpresidential. No it was illustrative, instead of being direct, he was eluding to what needs to be done with out directly saying it. He needed himself to illustrate Weiner's mess? Dang! I need to smite you for that one.  |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 17:36:53 GMT -5
Yeah, Lunacy, the NOW hags want him to be their poster boy. ;D Nobody has to agree or disagree with what Weiner did. Fact is that he broke no law, his constituents support him, so he has full right to remain in office. He may choose to quit as that's in the best interest of his party (which is very different from the best interest of his family). While I agree that no one man is more important than the Party as a whole, I do think it aids and abets social conservatives if he quits, hence I want him to stay. Republicans need to stop trying to police personal behavior. |
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 14, 2011 17:37:16 GMT -5
No it was illustrative, instead of being direct, he was eluding to what needs to be done with out directly saying it. He needed himself to illustrate Weiner's mess? Dang! I need to smite you for that one. Yes, he needed himself for the illustration, how often have you heard Obama put you before me? That is what you say a narcissist does to feel relevant to a given story isn't it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2011 17:51:21 GMT -5
At least it is somewhat political, unlike when he stuck his nose in between that professor and the cop then had to get them both drunk to fix it.. Obama is more comfortable with street issues than country issues..
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:00:10 GMT -5
The New York Post certainly had a salacious enough headline regarding this. Nonetheless, Obama is a father of daughters so this may have offended him on a personal level. A 21 yer old getting the covered picture of a bulging penis would offend a father? You think a 21 year old hasn't had better familiarity with a erect penis already? Sheesh, when did Palin's daughter get pregnant again? What is the legal age for marriage? How old is the average stripper in the Bible Belt? |
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 14, 2011 18:07:22 GMT -5
Yeah, Lunacy, the NOW hags want him to be their poster boy. ;D Nobody has to agree or disagree with what Weiner did. Fact is that he broke no law, his constituents support him, so he has full right to remain in office. He may choose to quit as that's in the best interest of his party (which is very different from the best interest of his family). While I agree that no one man is more important than the Party as a whole, I do think it aids and abets social conservatives if he quits, hence I want him to stay. Republicans need to stop trying to police personal behavior. That's absolutely hilarious (and hypocritical). No one jumps on sullied Congressmen like holier than thou liberals. Republicans usually have the grace to get their sorry butts off the stage real quick. |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:09:21 GMT -5
Nobody has to agree or disagree with what Weiner did. Fact is that he broke no law, his constituents support him, so he has full right to remain in office. He may choose to quit as that's in the best interest of his party (which is very different from the best interest of his family). While I agree that no one man is more important than the Party as a whole, I do think it aids and abets social conservatives if he quits, hence I want him to stay. Republicans need to stop trying to police personal behavior. That's absolutely hilarious (and hypocritical). No one jumps on sullied Congressmen like holier than thou liberals. Republicans usually have the grace to get their sorry butts off the stage real quick. |
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 14, 2011 18:11:10 GMT -5
John Stewart and an actress did a dramatic reading of the transcript of one of weiners sext sessions with a stranger. It's on YouTube. I posted it here last week but took it down immediately as I listened to it. Couldn't listen to it. Way salacious.  He gotsa go. Just don't think we need a president who ties himself all up in the situation. Doesn't he have a czar for that? Smut czar. . . Where's Deadfish when you need him? |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:13:35 GMT -5
John Stewart and an actress did a dramatic reading of the transcript of one of weiners sext sessions with a stranger. It's on YouTube. I posted it here last week but took it down immediately as I listened to it. Couldn't listen to it. Way salacious. He gotsa go. Just don't think we need a president who ties himself all up in the situation. Doesn't he have a czar for that? Smut czar. . . Where's Deadfish when you need him? Do you believe that politicians should always do it with the lights out, no sound, in missionary position? |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:15:50 GMT -5
My father would have shot someone for sending me those pictures at 21, covered or not. Much of this is cultural. Many African Americans were raised in strict Protestant churches and this would not go over well. In spite of allegations that Obama is Muslim, I believe that he is actually Church of Christ, a conservative sect. So your father would commit a heinous crime in reaction to a completely legal act? And that's being conservative? I think it is being a sociopath. What is the average age of having first sex (including oral) among African Americans? More than 21? |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:24:11 GMT -5
You may consider it sociopathic, but many conservative men from the old country, including many Southern Italians as well, don't cotton to having their girls act like trollops. Having a discrete romance with a man who has serious intentions is not the same as passing porn back and forth. It is an act of disrespect. We are in the 21st century, right? Not in the Victorian age? Who uses the word trollops anymore? |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:28:14 GMT -5
America is a big country and it includes many types of people, including Mormons, Conservative Roman Catholics, etc. I use the word "trollop" because it is a polite way to discuss a rather impolite idea. To me a "ho" is used to break earth in a garden, but then, you get the idea. Seeing the fully clothed picture of an erect penis makes a 21 year old a ho!? You are pulling my leg, right? I live in the United States of America, not Iran or Pakistan. |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:33:59 GMT -5
Receiving the pictures from complete strangers is not the social norm. Before you defend this much further, picture this being sent to your wife or sister unsolicited. I can picture a complete stranger woman sending me nude pics. I wouldn't feel like a gigolo. I would chuckle, take a look, and delete. |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:39:02 GMT -5
Yes, but it doesn't work the other way around. Woman have to guard their reputations much more assiduously. How is anyone's reputation soiled if they get an unsolicited penis picture? I just asked my wife as well. She said she would delete the picture and move on. I don't have a sister so I can't check there. |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:45:20 GMT -5
She is lucky to have a sensible husband. Many women have had violence done them for a lot less than being found with a picture of another man's penis. So you realize the problem is with the insensible fathers and husbands, and not either the woman's or that of the person sending those pics? That was precisely my point. Fathers and husbands who rise to violence over this nonsense are not conservatives. They are sociopaths hiding behind the disguise of conservatism. |
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 14, 2011 18:48:55 GMT -5
Yeah, Lunacy, the NOW hags want him to be their poster boy. ;D Nobody has to agree or disagree with what Weiner did. Fact is that he broke no law, his constituents support him, so he has full right to remain in office. He may choose to quit as that's in the best interest of his party (which is very different from the best interest of his family). While I agree that no one man is more important than the Party as a whole, I do think it aids and abets social conservatives if he quits, hence I want him to stay. Republicans need to stop trying to police personal behavior.  especially since so many of their own suffer similar impulses and the corresponding similar lack of impulse control. and with all of this said, it's morally wrong to allow gays and lesbians to marry and legally recognize their commitment to each other.  |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:50:07 GMT -5
Look, we elect humans, not Catholic priests, OK?
Damn, bad example, but you get my point ...
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:51:16 GMT -5
I meant Conservative in the social, not political sense. I am afraid that serious violence can result from this and is not at all uncommon. I don't even believe that someone doing this is a sociopath, although he is definitely a hot-head. Every hot-head is not a criminal, although you don't want to start up with them. You think someone who would beat up his wife because she received an unsolicited penis pic is not a sociopath? Who are you making excuses for now? Wife beaters? For crying out loud ... |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 14, 2011 18:54:04 GMT -5
Listen, when you have daughters of your own, give me your feelings on a married congressman send them lecherous photos. By the way, at least one of the photos was of his actual peter, not clothed at all. So you moved from wives and sisters to daughters now, after defending wife beaters as hot headed? I have a son. No daughters, and no chance of having daughters either. |
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