Not 3.7 Bill. pledged for vaccines , 4.3 Bill

[deziloooooo]

Like other of my threads, will just add articles to the thread dealing with topic so as not to clog up zones. Just scroll to last article to read what the header suggests it , article , is about...ok to stop along the way to read older ones, articles , if you missed them earlier ;D
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I know, I know...enough already we can't do everything, let others kick in, China, Japan, the oil Rich countries, Russia..and hopefully they will , but also hope we are doing our share too.

There is a petition at the end one can sign..takes just a second, not a second..about a minute or so...
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english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/06/2011612152237573322.html
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[Click on link to read article]
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Four hours to save four million children

World leaders have four hours to save the lives of four million children at the Global Vaccinations Summit in London
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This year, a new vaccine against pneumonia was rolled out in Kenya, part of an international effort to tackle the country's 30,000 annual child deaths from the disease [GALLO/GETTY]

Graves come in two sizes in Kenya's impoverished North Eastern Province: large for adults, small for children. You don't need to be a statistician to see that rates of child mortality are high here; a simple visit to the graveyard in the desert village of Hadaja reveals as many small mounds as large, as well as an open grave (size: small), yet to be filled.

Villagers say that most of the children are dying from preventable diseases; pneumonia is a prime suspect for many of the deaths, malaria for others. "If it's coughing, we think it's pneumonia," says Abdullah Duale, the village elder who offered to show me the graveyard. "If it's fever, then it's malaria." There is no hospital in Hadaja, so that's about as advanced as diagnostic medicine gets here.

But last year, something changed. Save the Children's outreach teams, working alongside the government, arrived in the village and started a vaccination programme, and the children's health improved. "Our children are sick much less since the vaccinations began," says Duale. "We don't have a hospital, or communications, so it is better to stop them becoming ill. Otherwise it is hard for us to get help in time"

[mmhmm]

Definitely a worthy cause, in my opinion, Dezi. The vaccines are readily available. These children really need them.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 12, 2011 16:25:20 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

Definitely a worthy cause, in my opinion, Dezi. The vaccines are readily available. These children really need them.

I signed the petition..guess some contact for a donation, wish they had just done a link and I would have done that , I don't pick up on most of my phone calls now as it's a 97.8 % shot of some one trying to sell you something..

Yes a simple shot, we take it for granted here ...but parts of the world..there for the grace of..in a way.

[mmhmm]

Sadly, that's true, Dezi. Here, if a person is hospitalized for any reason, they're offered the pneumonia vaccine as a matter of course, and the flu vaccine during flu season. If we don't work to prevent illness, we're not really doing our jobs. Most people accept the vaccines gratefully. Many don't know there is a pneumonia vaccine until we offer it. I'm trying to get the hospital to offer the shingles vaccine, as well. That's one we can prevent (or, at least, lessen the severity of) and I think we should be more aggressive in that regard.

[jarhead1976]

Ill make a donation to Catholic charity's for this cause.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 12, 2011 17:02:06 GMT -5 @jarhead1976 said:

Ill make a donation to Catholic charity's for this cause.

good cause...the thing about the phone solicitations, sometimes up to 40 % or MORE, of the donations go to the ones making the calls...fund raisers, really p me off..I think, I know another law, but still, it should be capped, no more then 25 % of the donation as a fee...tops, less if they could pass it, but I would take 25 %.

[ameiko]

I would not sign this petition for the same reason that I would not support sending food over: all we are doing is artificially supporting the populace such that they can reproduce to create even more overwhelming numbers and thus the cycle continues anew, only worse.

Africa needs to fix its own issues. Otherwise all we do is simply help raise the next generation of dependents who will come to hate us despite all that we do for them.

The below was written to reference food aid but it fits quite well in this debate:

forums.civfanatics.com/archive/index.php/t-282894.html

[marshabar1]

Ameiko, those countries don't even own themselves. They belong to the world bankers who don't care what goes on as long as the interest on their loans keeps flowing. They are glad for the deaths and doing social engineering to ensure deaths. But you are right. Sending money is putting it right down the toilet. The agony of that continent just grows. Africans are exploited, experimented on, poisoned, starved and left to die of thirst over and over and over again and all the time these people say they are helping them.k

[deziloooooo]

I guess the lord has spoken... , if this is the case, I guess I would have to disobey the lords commandments and suffer the consequences, however in this, I don't think the lord has spoken , just some one who if I met in person would be sporting a long nose, two very looong ears, a very looong tail and his voice would sound like, Hee haw, Hee haw, Hee haw.

Marsha.."Et tu, Brute?"??

[pappyjohn99]

I wonder if Jose will send a donation?

[deziloooooo]

Jun 13, 2011 1:00:08 GMT -5 pappyjohn99 said:

I wonder if Jose will send a donation?

Only if he gets that raise I would think.

[fairlycrazy23]

Well, heartless aside, if this requires additional resources form the United States, we don't got it.

I think we already give them hundreds of millions of dollars, plus whatever other western nations have done, similar to our war on poverty, it seems to be a losing battle. If they don't learn to fend for themselves they will stay poor, all our money does is barely keep the population afloat while enriching the corrupt governments.

However, South Africa or any other nation that is geographical closer should take the lead.

[deziloooooo]

;)Good news on the "Four Hours...save 4 million '...they raised 4.3 Billion...a nice story for a Monday Morning in my estimation..hope most here feel the same, I knw a few feel differently, especially one who has those long ears and teh funny voice I mentioned but for most of us....good news on this topic.
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Europe

Donors pledge $4.3bn towards child vaccines

Bill Gates, Britain and other nations commit funds to help treat preventable diseases among world's poorest children.

13 Jun 2011 14:17


"Donors from around the world have pledged $4.3bn for a programme that aims to vaccinate 250 million of the world's poorest children against lifethreatening diseases.

The pledges surpassed the $3.7bn target set by the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation (GAVI), which says it could prevent more than 4 million premature deaths by 2015.

"We have exceeded the figure that we set ourselves and we have received firm pledges for a sum of $4.3bn," Andrew Mitchell, Britain's International Development Secretary announced at the end of the conference in London on Wednesday.

Britain and Bill Gates, the Microsoft chairman jointly committed $2.3bn to help vaccinate more than 80 million children in impoverished countries.

David Cameron, Britain's prime minister, said the $1.3bn donated by his country would help save 1.4 million lives over the next five years.

"Today we come together because we have the chance to save another four million lives in four years," he said.

"Frankly the idea of children dying from pneumonia and diarrhoea should be absolutely unthinkable in 2011.




Helen Evans, the CEO of the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunisation


"But for many parents in the developing world it is a devastating reality."

Gates, a billionaire and philanthropist who helped set up the alliance, said his charitable foundation would commit an additional $1bn over five years.

"It's not every day you give away $1bn but for a cause like this it's exciting to be doing this," he said.

Their announcements came a day after Kevin Rudd, Australia's foreign minister, said his country would commit $211m to GAVI.

"What I see across the international community is a growing commitment to vaccinations ... as one of the most effective forms of aid delivery," Rudd told the Reuters news agency. "This is a good investment."

GAVI, a non-profit organisation which funds bulk-buy vaccination programmes for poor nations that cannot afford Western prices, is seeking an extra $3.7bn in funds to prevent four million child deaths by 2015 with immunisation campaigns reaching more than 240 million children.

The alliance has already vaccinated 288 million children in 19 countries, but wants to extend the vaccination programme to another 26 countries

Pneumonia and diarrhoea kill three times as many children under the age of five as HIV/AIDS even though vaccines are available to prevent such deaths.

Many developing countries cannot afford the vaccines"

[AGB]

Bill Gates, Britain and other nations commit funds to help treat preventable diseases among world's poorest children.

When did Bill Gates become a nation? ;D

[mmhmm]

What I'd like to see is more involvement by big pharma. Actually, they can just about afford to give these vaccines away. There are a number of charitable organizations through which medical personnel offer their services for varying periods of time. I'm sure they'd be happy to administer the vaccines. They're not looking for pay, and don't receive it. I've done it myself in the past. Getting too old now, and I miss it. There are ways to get the job done that don't involve a lot of money. There must be some funds available, of course, for the costs associated with organization of efforts, travel (some of the medical charities pay their own way), and accomodations. Still, the vast majority of the funds needed to do this sort of thing can be absorbed by those who make it their business to offer their services in situations like this. Committed involvement by big pharma, however, is needed.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 13, 2011 11:19:51 GMT -5 mmhmm said:

What I'd like to see is more involvement by big pharma. Actually, they can just about afford to give these vaccines away. There are a number of charitable organizations through which medical personnel offer their services for varying periods of time. I'm sure they'd be happy to administer the vaccines. They're not looking for pay, and don't receive it. I've done it myself in the past. Getting too old now, and I miss it. There are ways to get the job done that don't involve a lot of money. There must be some funds available, of course, for the costs associated with organization of efforts, travel (some of the medical charities pay their own way), and accomodations. Still, the vast majority of the funds needed to do this sort of thing can be absorbed by those who make it their business to offer their services in situations like this. Committed involvement by big pharma, however, is needed.

I am thinking that , a educated guess, there are negotiations with these pharmaceutical companies to supply these vaccines for a special, special price...if there is a profit involve i am thinking it is small...more on the sized of the orders..we are talking Billions in purchases so I am sure they are getting a good bang for the buck.

Part of this has to be spent on educating and training local people to give these vaccines, getting to the villages and areas were they are...many places are possible in the boonies, no high ways as we know them, very primitive, possible doing other medical work too..

[reasonfreedom]

Jun 12, 2011 21:35:27 GMT -5 @marshabar1 said:

Ameiko, those countries don't even own themselves. They belong to the world bankers who don't care what goes on as long as the interest on their loans keeps flowing. They are glad for the deaths and doing social engineering to ensure deaths. But you are right. Sending money is putting it right down the toilet. The agony of that continent just grows. Africans are exploited, experimented on, poisoned, starved and left to die of thirst over and over and over again and all the time these people say they are helping them.k

You think the U.S. is not owned by bankers? ROFLMAO

[reasonfreedom]

I think it is a good cause as long as it is personal donations. Our tax dollars are supposed to be used for our countries infrastructure, that is why we live here. Other countries don't pay U.S. taxes to support their own country. Just doesn't make sense at all. It is like me going to the store to buy a carton of eggs and then handing it to somebody else.

[Deleted]

Found this from almost a year and a half ago.. I just hope the money goes where it is supposed to go, and is volunteered money. I'm all for charity. I assume Gates is so global he considers kids in the USA also? I hope?? Lots of billions out there, let's hope they are being administered correctly.
www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/01/29/davos.bill.gates.donates/index.html?hpt=T2
Gates: $10B vaccine program could save 8.7M lives
By Paul Armstrong CNN
January 29, 2010 11:05 a.m. EST

It should not be tax money, at this point. Not in this economy. I'm all for charity, though, and most people with money to give are very charitable.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 13, 2011 13:47:23 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

Found this from almost a year and a half ago.. I just hope the money goes where it is supposed to go, and is volunteered money. I'm all for charity. I assume Gates is so global he considers kids in the USA also? I hope?? Lots of billions out there, let's hope they are being administered correctly.
www.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/01/29/davos.bill.gates.donates/index.html?hpt=T2
Gates: $10B vaccine program could save 8.7M lives
By Paul Armstrong CNN
January 29, 2010 11:05 a.m. EST

It should not be tax money, at this point. Not in this economy. I'm all for charity, though, and most people with money to give are very charitable.

Nations are doing this , in fact the majority is being done by nations..I am hoping we are doing our share. That gates foundation is active , he said when he set it up he will be concentrating on world health issues..seems he is..