Whose side is the FDA really on?

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Don't even get me going on the FDA, wolf!! I BELIEVE there are cures for cancer, AIDS, many things, and the FDA, in league with the gov't and big pharma, makes more $$$$$$$$ treating people while they die than they would CURING those people. They LIKE sick people. Sick people= $$$$$. I think they even create diseases, too, to further their agenda of killing people and making lots of $$$$ while they do it. Do you know of this guy, wolf??
www.naturalnews.com/

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[NoMoreLunacy]

The FDA needs to be abolished completely and the funding for them returned to rich taxpayers. 100 years back there was no FDA and people did fine. Yes, snake oil salesmen would dupe the poor and the middle class, but the rich were just fine and I like it that way.

[NoMoreLunacy]

Antineoplaston (ANP) is a name coined by Stanislaw Burzynski for a group of peptides, derivatives, and mixtures that he uses as an alternative cancer treatment.[1] These compounds are not licensed as drugs but are instead sold and administered by Burzynski as part of clinical trials that he runs at his own establishments, the Burzynski Clinic and the Burzynski Research Institute in Houston, Texas.[2][3][4] The clinical efficacy of antineoplastons combinations for various diseases have been the subject of many such trials by Burzynski and his associates, but these have not produced any clear evidence of efficacy. Oncologists have described these studies as flawed, with one doctor stating that they are "scientific nonsense".[5] In particular, independent scientists have been unable to reproduce the positive results reported in Burzynski's studies.[6]

There is no convincing evidence from randomized controlled trials in the scientific literature that antineoplastons are useful treatments of cancer and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved these products for the treatment of any disease.[2] The American Cancer Society has stated that there is no evidence that these products have any beneficial effects in cancer and have recommended that people do not buy these products.[7] A 2004 medical review described this treatment as a "disproven therapy".[8]

Treatment with antineoplastons can be very costly to patients without insurance coverage, exceeding $100,000 for the first year of intravenous treatment. Many insurance companies consider antineoplaston therapy to be investigational and unproven and do not cover the cost.[14][15]

[NoMoreLunacy]

What I really dislike about the FDA is the blatant opposition to someone who is just trying to make a good buck. Why would the FDA stop normal business endeavor to proceed? If someone can make $100k per year per patient selling saline water I think they should have the right to do so in the free country of America. I only believe that Medicare and Medicaid shouldn't cover these and that money should be returned to the rich in the form of tax cuts.

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Weird.. let me check my link...

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Okay, I get your question. That is Mike Adam's website. He's the Health Ranger, also the guy in the swine flu video. I get his e mail updates. I've noticed, not just here, that you have questions about health stuff. That's why I put this out here for you. People tell me he is a quack, BUT his stories don't come from quacks. You decide..

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Let me go watch.. I didn't even see the link. Sorry...

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Do you mean the 3 minute or so link about the child that died? Or did I miss something? That is horrifying, and, yes, I believe it. They do not want us to live. People are costly, and to kill us slowly is more profitable than to cure us. Just look at ... Magic Johnson, for example. Back when he got HIV it was in the days when you die in 18 months from diagnoses. BUT-- he did not die, did he? Now people can live forever on HIV drugs... but there are questions of whether or not many diagnosed with it even HAVE it. Very strange stuff.. but no one is going to stop their HIV drugs, because they are told they will die if they do.. lots of money involved there...

[NoMoreLunacy]

Jun 11, 2011 16:51:59 GMT -5 @lonewolf said:

Jun 11, 2011 15:29:16 GMT -5 NoMoreLunacy said:

What I really dislike about the FDA is the blatant opposition to someone who is just trying to make a good buck. Why would the FDA stop normal business endeavor to proceed? If someone can make $100k per year per patient selling saline water I think they should have the right to do so in the free country of America. I only believe that Medicare and Medicaid shouldn't cover these and that money should be returned to the rich in the form of tax cuts.

Again, the government doesn't want us being proactive in our treatments. If there is a cure and it's being kept from us, it's something that can no longer be tolerated.

Even if it is not a cure and is pure snake oil, the Govt has no business preventing Americans from wasting money on it or worse yet killing themselves. Last time I checked it is a free country. Charlatans need to make money too and who is the FDA to tell them that they can't? The FDA clearly doesn't believe in free market capitalism. Abolish it and give the money back to the rich in the form of tax cuts and while at it gut Medicare too. And the military. And all foreign aid to the rogue nations of Israel and Pakistan.

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Who's side is the FDA on? Well they started out with honorable intentions to protect the consumer from hazardous medicines and poisonious products. But it appears they are more in the camp of big business now than the consumer.

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Jun 11, 2011 17:56:34 GMT -5 handyman2 said:

Who's side is the FDA on? Well they started out with honorable intentions to protect the consumer from hazardous medicines and poisonious products. But it appears they are more in the camp of big business now than the consumer.

You have a problem with that?

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Yep. A decorated cop whose little girl died..

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Can you give me the link to that? What I saw from your link was 3 minutes. I'll watch it.

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Can't get it, wolf. Just the short one. It won't even let me go to you tube.. thought maybe I could see the long one there.. Let me try to just find it by name on you tube..

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Frustrating.. can't find the movie on you tube, but several short trailers... hey, I saw one trailer of him with Mike, the Natural News guy.. now I really want to see it.

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GOT it on that last link, wolf, and it is only free until the 13th of this month. Thx. I will watch it now. Babysitting, so I may be on and off, but definitely will finish it tonight. Thx.

[diamonds]

Krickitt: Come back to the Weiner thread...

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Jun 11, 2011 21:04:26 GMT -5 diamonds said:

Krickitt: Come back to the Weiner

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Watching.. ahh, he is in Houston.. where I lived.. very good medical there.. watching..

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Oh, this is creepy.. yeah.. FDA..

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Wow, wolf.... still watching.. FDA wants his drug, sounds like... you will like the Health Ranger guy..

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Wow.. all these children that had brain cancer now young adults and cancer free... I am afraid to watch the rest-- they are trying to put him in jail!!

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1997--acquitted of all charges...

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Whose side is the FDA really on?

Kind of a complex question with a fairly simple answer. The FDA is part of our government. It's main purpose is to generate paperwork to prove that it is doing something (to validate the paychecks that it receives). So to answer your question, it's on the side of the FDA.

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What I think, wolf, after watching the entire movie, is that we are worse off than I thought we were.. and I knew we were F'd. Remember to save Natural News. I try to read it every day, but some days I just can't.. stuff like this movie.. drives me nuts.

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Not sure if this had has been mentioned on here?

(CBS/AP) Breast cancer patients are up in arms over the FDA's recent recommendation that the drug Avastin no longer be used to treat breast cancer.

Recent studies indicate that Avastin does not affect overall survival of metastatic breast cancer patients - and causes significant side effects - but some patients credit their survival to the drug and say the FDA's action could amount to a death sentence.

Christi Turnage of Madison, Miss., said her cancer has been undetectable for more than two years since starting therapy with Avastin. She was diagnosed with breast cancer in June 2006 and began taking the drug in 2008 after the tumors spread, or metastasized, to her lungs. Breast cancer that spreads to other parts of the body is generally considered incurable.

"It's a miracle drug for me and for several of my friends, and to deny it to women being diagnosed with metastatic disease is wrong," Turnage said.

Patients like Turnage have support from Susan G. Komen for the Cure, a leading advocacy group.

"We want to be sure that women who are using Avastin, and for whom it is working, can continue to have access to it," the group's president, Elizabeth Thompson, said in a statement. The organization also wants to make sure insurers will continue to pay for the expensive drug, she added.

Read more: www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20026000-10391704.html#ixzz1P2FSVoEp

www.fda.gov/newsevents/newsroom/pressannouncements/ucm237172.htm

Removing the breast cancer label effectively means that insurance companies no longer have to cover the expensive drug, at least not for breast cancer.

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I've heard about the Avastin thing. Someone told me it is not worth the money.. I think if it is extending lives by several years it IS worth the money, but I am not gov't, who is starting to put a cost ratio on people's lives vs. their future productivity.

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Jun 11, 2011 15:29:16 GMT -5 NoMoreLunacy said:

What I really dislike about the FDA is the blatant opposition to someone who is just trying to make a good buck. Why would the FDA stop normal business endeavor to proceed? If someone can make $100k per year per patient selling saline water I think they should have the right to do so in the free country of America. I only believe that Medicare and Medicaid shouldn't cover these and that money should be returned to the rich in the form of tax cuts.

Thus far as I see it, you really need to up your trolling game. It's a bit of a snooze fest.