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Post by lakhota on Jun 10, 2011 21:23:21 GMT -5
John Birch Society Celebrates Koch Family For Their Role In Founding The Hate GroupBillionaire brothers David and Charles Koch have been dominant financiers for conservative front groups and nonprofits for nearly three decades. Their money has flowed to organizations dedicated to lobbying for corporate and upper income tax cuts, as well as to groups responsible for mobilizing Tea Party rallies against President Obama. But the Koch family’s association with fringe right-wing groups began a generation earlier with Fred Koch, the patriarch of the clan. Fred not only founded the company now known as Koch Industries, he also was a founding member of the John Birch Society. As a founding board member, Fred helped engineer a hysterical wave of attacks on labor, intellectuals, public education, liberal clergy members, and other pillars of society he viewed as a threat. Birchers decried everyone from former President Eisenhower to water utility administrators as pawns in a global communist conspiracy. In the last two years, as the Koch name has become synonymous with right-wing plutocracy in the United States, the Koch family has played down its relation to the Birchers. However, the New American, the official mouthpiece of the John Birch Society, published a piece this morning celebrating Fred and the Koch family’s pivotal role in developing the group: Koch warned that American institutions were honeycombed with communist subversives, from labor unions and tax-free foundations to universities and churches. Art and newsprint, radio and television — all these media had been transmuted into vehicles of communist propaganda. [...] Fred Koch was no fly-by-night pamphleteer. He spent a generous portion of his later years using his wealth and influence to fight the communism he abhorred. He was an early member of the The John Birch Society’s National Council, an advisory group to JBS founder Robert Welch. Koch supported a variety of freedom-related causes, all the while continuing to build the company today known as Koch Industries. The Bircher ode to Koch glosses over Fred’s record of bigotry. In a booklet he authored, Fred railed against civil rights leaders, and claimed the movement against racial segregation was a communist plot to use African Americans to destabilize the country. The Koch-funded Birchers held numerous rallies during the ’60s claiming integration would lead to a “mongrelization” of the races. Although the present-day Koch brothers try to eschew explicit racism, their top Tea Party front group, Americans for Prosperity, is currently pursuing similar racial segregation goals. In North Carolina, the Americans for Prosperity chapter led a campaign to end a highly successful public school integration system. thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/10/242334/john-birch-society-celebrates-koch/
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Post by lakhota on Jun 10, 2011 21:26:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 21:51:23 GMT -5
According to wikipedia it was formed for: The John Birch Society is an American radical right-wing[1][2] political advocacy group that supports anti-communism, limited government, a Constitutional Republic[3][4] and personal freedom.[5] It was against the civil rights movement because they felt that it was being driven by comunist. Of course we all know that the civil rights movement was driven by FAIRNESS for all Americans & that it was a good thing. I can see how they got confused though (as far as it being driven by comunist). It was a much simplier time & comunist & socialist were considered the same thing. Much like the OP who is against anti-communism, limited government, a Constitutional Republic, & maybe personal freedom (we know he is against personal freedom with your money. Thanks for posting this Lakhota. The link is here if someone wants to look at it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_SocietyOh & I found this a VERY interesting sentence: Wright has said, their political racism however was no different from both Republicans and Democratic politicians of the time.[14]
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Post by formerexpat on Jun 10, 2011 22:00:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 22:04:25 GMT -5
This is especially true considering anyone can edit the information given at any time.Maybe Lakhota can zip over there & take out the part about the Democratic party being against civil rights. (they have changed on that, haven't they Lakhota?).
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Post by EVT1 on Jun 10, 2011 22:19:49 GMT -5
Well duh, of course it isn't a credible source- most of the crap posted on here isn't from credible sources.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 10, 2011 22:45:41 GMT -5
oldtex, if Wikipedia is your only source of knowledge on the John Birch Society, I feel sorry for you.
Pubs love the JBS.
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 10, 2011 23:37:20 GMT -5
I love the Koch family. They have done a lot to skew the playing field towards the rich in this country.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 4:20:24 GMT -5
oldtex, if Wikipedia is your only source of knowledge on the John Birch Society, I feel sorry for you.
Pubs love the JBS.
No, not my only source of knowledge, just the best one to use to reply to your post. If us pubs love the JBS, what do you srats love? I doubt that it's something out of Russia because they are becoming more capitalist, so what is it? Maybe the Cuban Gazette?
As for the JBS, they are something out of the past & for the most part their time has come & gone. They are brought up every now & then by someone trying to scare others. Kind of a "Vote for my way of thinking or this could come back". Or even guilt thru association. Pubs like & support the JBS so they must be wrong. Kind of sad really.
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Post by ugonow on Jun 11, 2011 11:43:23 GMT -5
Why do you guys pile on Lak so much?I see many posts the mirror image of his here that no one decries for source,or their partisanship.
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 11, 2011 16:08:49 GMT -5
Why do you guys pile on Lak so much?I see many posts the mirror image of his here that no one decries for source,or their partisanship. This is a conservative, partisan board. You have a problem with that? I like it here because everyone is a conservative. In the outside world there are too many liberals and it upsets me. This place is good. Now if only everyone was a conservative in the USA life would be so much better.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 11, 2011 18:37:02 GMT -5
Why do you guys pile on Lak so much?I see many posts the mirror image of his here that no one decries for source,or their partisanship. I strive to get their attention; getting their respect is irrelevant.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 11, 2011 18:39:40 GMT -5
John Birch Society Celebrates Koch Family
So What the John Birch Society Founder Robert Welsh gave much of his fortune from Welsh Candy to charity..They are also Pro Military and include Military Officers as their members, especially in Orange County and San Diego Counties in CA..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 23:49:46 GMT -5
Why do you guys pile on Lak so much?I see many posts the mirror image of his here that no one decries for source,or their partisanship.
Just look at the top 20 or so thread on the boards. Nobody comes close to Lakhota in starting thread to shove his liberal agenda down our throats. Add that to how outlandish some of those thread (& his views) are & you get the reason (actually there are others but I'll leave it there).
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 12, 2011 7:21:05 GMT -5
Why do you guys pile on Lak so much?I see many posts the mirror image of his here that no one decries for source,or their partisanship. Just look at the top 20 or so thread on the boards. Nobody comes close to Lakhota in starting thread to shove his liberal agenda down our throats. Add that to how outlandish some of those thread (& his views) are & you get the reason (actually there are others but I'll leave it there). Let me pick up where you left off..Lakhota can do whatever and whenever he wants here or else he will quit again.. And do you want another tearful long goodbye? There is just so many of those "Goodbye Cruel World" things one can take around here..IMHO.. Also according to Lakhota...all Native Americans should be afforded special treatment here at P&M because after all they were here first in this country before the rest of his immigrants from other countries. Maybe he has a point but that is way above my pay grade. But the Mods have made their call...Lakhota get special treatment so deal with it..
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