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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 11:16:21 GMT -5
www.theblaze.com/stories/santa-monica-proposal-to-ban-genital-cutting-of-male-minors-will-be-dropped/SANTA MONICA PROPOSAL TO BAN CIRCUMCISION WILL BE DROPPED Posted on June 7, 2011 The primary individual behind a Santa Monica ballot measure that would ban circumcision has officially dropped the “Prohibition of Genital Cutting of Male Minors” proposal due to the perception that it is an attack on religious freedom. The woman, Jena Troutman, originally submitted the initiative to the Santa Monica City Clerk on May 19. Yesterday, she told The Jewish Journal that she would withdraw the proposed ban: “It shouldn’t have been about religion in the first place,” Troutman told the Jewish Journal. “Ninety-five percent of people aren’t doing it for religious reasons, and with everyone from the New York Times to Glenn Beck focusing on the religious issue, it’s closing Americans down to the conversation.” …In the interview, Troutman also distanced herself from MGMbill.org, a San Diego-based organization led by Matthew Hess, the author of the “Foreskin Man” cartoon, which has been roundly criticized in recent days as anti-Semitic. Over the weekend, The Blaze covered this controversial cartoon. This measure shouldn’t be confused with a similar one that is scheduled to appear on the San Francisco ballot this November. This particular ban would criminalize the circumcision of a boy before the age of 18 (offenders would be slapped with a misdemeanor, with the potential of a year in jail and a 1,000 fine). If this regulation becomes law, circumcisions will only be allowed for medical reasons. **So what's the big deal with all this..... I'll show you..**
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 11:21:46 GMT -5
www.theblaze.com/stories/proof-that-s-f-s-circumcision-ban-is-anti-semitic/‘PROOF THAT S.F.’S CIRCUMCISION BAN IS ANTI-SEMITIC’ Posted on June 4, 2011 Are you ready for this? Fearless blogger Zombie informs us: As you may have heard by now, San Francisco will be voting this November on whether or not to ban circumcision in the city. Defenders of the measure say it’s all about “human rights” and “protecting babies” from unnecessary procedures. But critics suspected there was something vaguely anti-Semitic about the whole proposal, since among Jews (and Muslims, as well) circumcising male babies is a religious duty, not just a mistaken medical procedure. Ban proponents insisted their proposal had nothing to do with Jews — really, it’s all about the rights of children. So, really, this has nothing to do with not liking Jews! Oh, wait. Because now there is the issue of …Foreskin Man! Yes, you really are seeing that. The author of the anti-circumcision referendum is Matthew Hess. San Francisco Chronicle’s Debra Saunders talked to Hess: His website, mgmbill.org — which pushes “a bill to end male genital mutilation in the United States” –also pushes his literature and merchandise starring “Foreskin Man,” shown here at right. The star cover image of his comic book shows a dark, bearded rabbi looming over a naked baby laying on a pool table, as a superheo appears ready to save the child. Saunders asked Hess if his comic is anti-Semitic. His answer: “A lot of people have said that, but we’re not trying to be anti-Semitic. We’re trying to be pro-human rights.” See? No worries! No anti-Semitism here! Pics to follow....and this is true. I cruised the link.. they are real..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 11:24:09 GMT -5
More fun pics in link, and in the link within the link..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 11:25:19 GMT -5
San Fran better be real careful here-- people are watching...
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 8, 2011 11:25:55 GMT -5
I can see it now! The Oakland Circumcision clinic, or another bunch cropping up just outside the city! #^%^& MORONS! Not their choice!
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 8, 2011 12:10:09 GMT -5
I can see it now,
Families huddled together in a dark dirty alley, rusty knife in hand waiting to perform the outlawed procedure.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 12:13:14 GMT -5
foreskin man will save our penis's one day.
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 8, 2011 12:14:34 GMT -5
foreskin man will save our penis's one day. TOO LATE, Where o Where was foreskin man when I needed him?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 12:15:35 GMT -5
Too late fore us, but not too late fore future foreskins.
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 8, 2011 12:16:51 GMT -5
Too late fore us, but not too late fore future foreskins. I couldn't just ninja Karma that one.
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Post by ed1066 on Jun 8, 2011 12:32:38 GMT -5
Back alley circumcisions, what a disgrace...
Where are the "pro-choice" liberals here, huh? Keep your laws off my body? Hellooooooo....where are you??
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 8, 2011 12:36:12 GMT -5
That comic book might as well have come from Goebbels' office.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 12:39:43 GMT -5
Glad you took the time to see the comic book, Marsha. Yes-- these so called "progressives" do not seem to care for Jews, do they?
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Post by ed1066 on Jun 8, 2011 13:08:35 GMT -5
It's almost as if the lefties got together and said "let's dispel any lingering doubt whatsoever (for the remaining few who are unconvinced) that we dislike Jews"...well, it worked!
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Post by Angel! on Jun 8, 2011 13:39:30 GMT -5
Back alley circumcisions, what a disgrace... Where are the "pro-choice" liberals here, huh? Keep your laws off my body? Hellooooooo....where are you?? Most probably don't feel it is worth commenting as this is obviously some fringe group & doesn't represent most liberals. But, just for you I will comment - I think it is a stupid law & should not be passed - I see this as a parents choice issue. However, I don't find it anti-semetic because circumcision isn't limited to Jewish people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 13:40:20 GMT -5
SAVE THE PENIS!
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 8, 2011 13:42:22 GMT -5
Glenn Beck did a report on this last week. I hope Jewish people in this country will wake up some day to the evil they are supporting by aligning with the left. Some say they just can't get with the right for the same reason inner city blacks can't despite the plain as day facts that show the left despises and destroys them.
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Post by Angel! on Jun 8, 2011 13:44:24 GMT -5
So the left is evil?
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 8, 2011 13:46:19 GMT -5
So the left is evil? I'll be glad to count the ways. ;D The Latin word sinistra originally meant "left" but took on meanings of "evil" or "unlucky" by the Classical Latin era, and this double meaning survives in European derivatives of Latin, and in the English word "sinister". Alternatively, sinister comes from the Latin word sinus meaning "pocket": a traditional Roman toga had only one pocket, located on the left side.
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 8, 2011 13:50:58 GMT -5
The law was a dumb idea in the first place. There are religious considerations in play that cannot be ignored. As I understand it, this isn't the end of the issue. There's another bill coming up for vote in November that addresses this issue. I'd have some confidence in saying it, too, will fail. While I don't believe circumcision to be necessary, there are other factors involved that must be considered.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 13:51:25 GMT -5
Creeping incrementalism... again.. spooky stuff, just like Beck says.. Marsha, have you read the Texas school thread today? Ugo stumbled on to something big in the creeping incrementalism dept....
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 8, 2011 13:54:42 GMT -5
Thanks, krickitt, I'll go look. Take a look at the raft.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 14:00:19 GMT -5
OMG!!! How could I forget the raft??? I never do that!!!! me!!
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 8, 2011 14:05:31 GMT -5
It is always the women that want to go snip, snip to little Blue!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 14:06:35 GMT -5
Marsha!!! You are awesome!! Raft looks great!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 14:09:09 GMT -5
So-- all you guys out there that got snipped are unhappy with your you know whats? My 3 sons seem to not have issues with theirs, and I am glad I was having babies when this was not an issue.
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 8, 2011 14:10:53 GMT -5
It is always the women that want to go snip, snip to little Blue! Actually, it isn't. In most cases, it's the circumcised father who advocates in favor of circumcision.
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 8, 2011 14:12:35 GMT -5
I don't remember getting snipped all I know is after it happened it took almost 2 years to learn to walk.
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 8, 2011 14:12:56 GMT -5
I was referring to Jena's bill!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2011 14:15:19 GMT -5
I don't remember getting snipped all I know is after it happened it took almost 2 years to learn to walk.
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