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Post by nannatexasrose51 on Jun 8, 2011 21:13:00 GMT -5
Sweet Virginia! I agree!!!
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Post by lakhota on Jun 8, 2011 21:19:11 GMT -5
It's hard to imagine that a Jewish man would do such a thing. I am sooo disappointed...
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Post by Value Buy on Jun 9, 2011 0:59:49 GMT -5
It's hard to imagine that a Jewish man would do such a thing. I am sooo disappointed... Lakhota, are you using sarcasm? I am impressed.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 9, 2011 1:32:48 GMT -5
It's meant for some of our "special" board members.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Jun 9, 2011 6:08:43 GMT -5
The news the last 12 hours on Cong. Weiner is that his wife is about 2 months pregger.
What a mess. I don't agree with the guy, he is not my congressman, but it is a very sad situation to see a person of his stature self destruct.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 6:18:21 GMT -5
Hi, nanna!! Good to see you here!!!!
Yes, Savoir, it is sad. Wonder if he is connected enough to get a good job if he resigns? Can't imagine the wife will be too pleased if her new powerful husband finds himself unemployed.. They are a pretty interesting couple....
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Post by Value Buy on Jun 9, 2011 6:19:01 GMT -5
The news the last 12 hours on Cong. Weiner is that his wife is about 2 months pregger. What a mess. I don't agree with the guy, he is not my congressman, but it is a very sad situation to see a person of his stature self destruct. "self destruct". Similar to a death wish? Reminds me of the old Saturday night live skit of the duo in the family basement doing the local cable tv show. " (We) I am not worthy". Certainly a mental health issue here, or he took himself as being way too much important and "above" the people he served. Similar to the Emporer has no clothes syndrome. Either that or he had Ted Kennedy as a mentor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 6:45:20 GMT -5
Imagine what this guy could get up to if he was unemployed, if he had time to get in all this trouble with what SHOULD be a very busy job.. If he has a normal marriage, how in the world will his wife ever trust him again? News says she was aware of his cyber relationships before she married him.. interesting.. I remember when I was young, some time in the 60s.. hearing my Mom and stepfather fight a lot... They ended up divorced.. I only found out a few years ago that they were fighting so much because my step-father thought they should join the "swingers" game and play with the neighbors... which she said NO to and he apparently did any way..BOTH families ended up divorced over that supposedly "harmless" liberal "swinging" affair. Some things are just too liberal to work in a marriage for some people.. We'll see how THIS wife handles this cyber cheating stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 7:17:38 GMT -5
I do, too. I don't imagine it lasted long after everybody involved ended up divorced, etc, back in the 60s and early 70s.. it was a fun time to be a teen, though. So many parents were caught up in "discovering" themselves that no one watched the kids... look how well THAT turned out, since it is my generation largely to blame for the current disaster we're handing off to our children..
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Post by floridayankee on Jun 9, 2011 7:19:58 GMT -5
I find the practice of "swinging" to be disgusting and abhorent. I feel about the same whether it's swinging, S&M, Bondage, same sex relations, or any other fetishes float an individuals / couples boat...who the hell cares what consenting adults do together. It's none of my business.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 7:27:58 GMT -5
Well, in the case of Weinerman it could have become our business. That man left himself wide open to serious blackmail, etc. Who even knows if it may not have already been happening to him? When a person in a political power spot gets in trouble and no one knows, they could do some real damage trying to keep it from hitting the front page, like Weinerman did. THAT would be our business. Which is why IMO if a person can't control their own base instincts, whatever, for a few years in office they shouldn't even be there. I question the integrity of one whose morals are in doubt. How far will such a person go? I wonder how many compromised politicians we have going right now that no one knows about? Geez-- look at Arnold. No telling what he might have done over the years that hurt CA to help his love child..
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 9, 2011 7:41:45 GMT -5
I don't think most thinking people are particularly concerned about this man's sexual proclivities. That's between Weiner and his wife and family, and any religious affiliation he might have. I think what bothers most people is the lying. If you done it, 'fess up! That's the responsible thing to do. If he'd been accountable for his actions from the get-go, I doubt this would have made near as big a splash.
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 9, 2011 7:56:16 GMT -5
Exactly mmhmm.
When confronted, he was "hacked" then it was a "prank".
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 9, 2011 8:04:42 GMT -5
I don't know why Weiner doesn't just resign and try to get help and save his marriage. He is only @ 46 years old and could find another job or write a book or go on the talk shows with Jon Stewart, Eliot Spitzer, Keith Olberman, Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews because they all love and adore him..
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Post by floridayankee on Jun 9, 2011 8:08:11 GMT -5
I think what bothers most people is the lying. I'd bet a years wages that each and every one of us have lied...most likely very recently. If your friend has a baby and it's one of the ugliest kids you've ever seen...and your friend asks you what you think about their baby, are you going to fess up and be honest? How many have called out sick from work without actually being sick? Ever told a friend/coworker their new shirt is nice when it gaudy and tacky? Told grandma you love the ugly sweater she knitted for you last christmas? Told your kids that santa is real? Anything inaccurate is a lie. You might make the case that a lie to make someone else feel better is good, but a lie still has an effect. A lie is a lie, and we all do it. I'm not too concerned over the lie, but to continue to lie in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary is just silly and completely counterproductive.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 9, 2011 8:12:18 GMT -5
I think what bothers most people is the lying. Weiner probably took lessons from Charley Rangel about how to try and lie out of an embarrassing situation, it seemed to work ok for Charley and all he got was a slap on the wrist for tax problems ..so Weiner thought if it worked for Ole Charley it should work for me and our constituents are all New Yorkers who seem to accept lying politicians for years.
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Post by ugonow on Jun 9, 2011 8:15:44 GMT -5
I had to snicker a bit this morning when I heard one of our wonderful representitives say wiener commited a grave ethics breach by using the floor to lie. Like he was the first...lol. But he is a fool for not stepping down.The longer he stands firm the worse it is for him.
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Post by ed1066 on Jun 9, 2011 9:29:46 GMT -5
Yeah, that's nasty. He should be out too...if he actually used tax dollars (or are you saying his entire salary is tax dollars? That's a tough call). I do think Weiner should repay the cost of the FBI investigation into "hackers" his lies elicited... Well we agree finally. I also think Weiner should pay back the cost of the FBI investigation. I totally think his lying and accusing a "hacker" of sending his photos, is cause for him to step down. Vitter should never have remained in office either. It's not just that he identified "a hacker", he NAMED the "hacker" as Andrew Breitbart. He willfully and illegally slandered a private citizen BY NAME on national television, when all along he knew it was completely untrue. That shows a lack of character that is worse than if he simply lied and said he didn't do it, someone else did, but he doesn't know who it was. He actually targeted a person in an attempt to both weasel out of responsibility for his actions AND take down a perceived enemy. For that he needs to pay...I truly hope Breitbart sues Weiner into the poorhouse...
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 9, 2011 9:44:56 GMT -5
I think what bothers most people is the lying. I'd bet a years wages that each and every one of us have lied...most likely very recently. If your friend has a baby and it's one of the ugliest kids you've ever seen...and your friend asks you what you think about their baby, are you going to fess up and be honest? How many have called out sick from work without actually being sick? Ever told a friend/coworker their new shirt is nice when it gaudy and tacky? Told grandma you love the ugly sweater she knitted for you last christmas? Told your kids that santa is real? Anything inaccurate is a lie. You might make the case that a lie to make someone else feel better is good, but a lie still has an effect. A lie is a lie, and we all do it. I'm not too concerned over the lie, but to continue to lie in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary is just silly and completely counterproductive. I've seen this kind of thought expressed before. There's a huge difference between telling a small untruth to save someone's feelings and telling a bald-faced lie to save your own arse. The latter is what Mr. Weiner did. That he continued to lie when the evidence was piling up was just stupidity. There are ways to answer the questions you brought up without lying. A lot depends on who asks the question. If someone you don't know very well wants your opinion on something they're wearing, what you say won't matter much. If it's a good friend, you can always ask if they want your true thoughts. If they say "yes", that's what they'll get from me. Thank grandma for the sweater. It's the thought and effort behind the gift that's beautiful, even if the gift is ugly in your eyes ... and, no. I've never called in sick when I wasn't sick. Why would I do that? If I want the day off, why not just be honest. If it's going to be a problem, I'm obligated to work. That's what I said I'd do when I took the job.
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 9, 2011 9:46:09 GMT -5
I agree, ed. Blaming someone else was just icing on the cake, so to speak. It speaks reams about Weiner's character.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 9, 2011 9:49:58 GMT -5
Most of us would be absolutely too embarrassed to say some of the things accredited to Weiner or have too much pride in ourselves....so if a member of congress has shamed the House of Representatives and embarrassed that institution, embarrassed himself, his constituents, New York State and the United States...then why in all that is holy do the Dems think he should not resign and tough it out.. Pelosi could bring a bill to the floor to expel Weiner in a heart beat but she doesn't have the gravitas or the will to do it... I know some folks who would do that in a heart beat and they are in me circle of friends and relatives who think Pelosi needs to ole Weiner ASAP because the longer this mess continues the messier it will get ...so cut your losses now and get rid of Weiner; Ms Pelosi ..IMHO
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Post by pepper112765 on Jun 9, 2011 12:11:38 GMT -5
He should just step down he is ineffective, at best, at this point. The longer he stays around the longer this story remains relevant.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 9, 2011 19:07:53 GMT -5
It saddens me to see the Weiner name tarnished.
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 9, 2011 20:18:33 GMT -5
for using tarnished and weiner in the same sentance.
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Post by lakhota on Jun 9, 2011 20:20:58 GMT -5
Thank you.
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Post by nannatexasrose51 on Jun 11, 2011 14:53:52 GMT -5
Man, it just keeps getting worse and worse for the lil wiener.. ;D
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 11, 2011 15:10:49 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 11, 2011 15:16:31 GMT -5
Most of us learned in Kindergarten that it doesn't matter what all the other kids are doing, YOU are responsible for YOU. We also learned growing up that life isn't fair. The liberal, "But David Vitter did it, too!!!!" line wouldn't hold even if it were true- which it isn't- that David Vitter slandered a private citizen in the hopes of covering his own arse. And it could be argued-- and would be argued by most liberals in any other circumstance-- that perhaps prostitution shouldn't be illegal because of the common law concept of freedom of contract. Even left-leaning people agree that what two consenting adults do should be their business. But slander? Elicit relationships with minors? C'mon, folks.
However as I've said- equivocation isn't an argument. I only did what someone else did isn't an argument.
Further, the idea that the chips fall the same for everyone also doesn't hold. We've all been there when either we got away with something while someone else didn't- or we got nailed and someone else walked away. Anyone that's had siblings has experienced this. This is also not a defense.
The man is going to go. It is assured.
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 11, 2011 15:32:27 GMT -5
Most of us learned in Kindergarten that it doesn't matter what all the other kids are doing, YOU are responsible for YOU. We also learned growing up that life isn't fair. The liberal, "But David Vitter did it, too!!!!" line wouldn't hold even if it were true- which it isn't- that David Vitter slandered a private citizen in the hopes of covering his own arse. And it could be argued-- and would be argued by most liberals in any other circumstance-- that perhaps prostitution shouldn't be illegal because of the common law concept of freedom of contract. Even left-leaning people agree that what two consenting adults do should be their business. But slander? Elicit relationships with minors? C'mon, folks. However as I've said- equivocation isn't an argument. I only did what someone else did isn't an argument. Further, the idea that the chips fall the same for everyone also doesn't hold. We've all been there when either we got away with something while someone else didn't- or we got nailed and someone else walked away. Anyone that's had siblings has experienced this. This is also not a defense. The man is going to go. It is assured. There has been no slander nor elicit relationships with minors. Soliciting prostitution on the other hand is a crime. Vitter should be forced to wear nothing but a diaper in public going forward.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 11, 2011 18:18:21 GMT -5
The Weinergate is like some long good byes lately...some Dems just can't let go of power, control, and adulation they seek in congress.. I don't understand how some of the old boys or old girls in their 70s and 80s in congress can be that effective.. We need new turks who served in the military or held high level jobs in industry....and the oldies but goodies have seen better days and ought to spend more time with their grand kids or great grand kids And perverts who have a thing for young kids ought to be shown the door by the Democratic or Republican Leadership because our country deserves better than this nonsense..
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