deziloooooo
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 10:16:31 GMT -5
The Huff is a liberal media source, no question about it..no denying that. So what? It has identified itself with that view.
However , it has excellent articles that have nothing to do with a bias on one side or the other, example is the link of the article posted here, and if you can show ME what is such a "Rag " about it's [Article] content, please some one do that.
The only negative I can see is some one , while agreeing it's a shame that the cuts have to go on these people, Veterans, the one disagreeing with it's content would have to say something along the lines that everyone has to suffer in the current financial crises we face. That I can understand , and a discussion then could be done about what items and the necessity of the size of the cuts and why not then also cut whatever.
However , to dismiss a source just because it has a political slant or comes from a source some one is not comfortable with, shows a ignorance and prejudice that in my mind is found in those I consider ignoramuses.
To constantly repeat that refrain , not once but as part of their refrain, loudly , as if their intent is to push their ideas along to others , who I grant you might, possible do, just follow along blindly, unable to or not wanting to be in disagreement with some who they feel are their spokesman, leader, guru of how to carry on, and those who do espouse those views so often suggest to me the ones who do so are blowhards who do so to just bring attention to themselves, and to need to do so, crave such attention, as if it is the breath of life suggests to me they are people of no consequences, as well as annoying with all their blathering. IMHO
I also had the thought that possible I might be bit harsh in my judgment, being to close to the situation actually so brought that up too, and if some felt so, then I would like to hear from them and depending on their thoughts might temper my statement.
To just dismiss media sources , print, other, because of a political slant, degrade them with constant zings and arrows , to refer to them as " rags", suggesting that all who do read them are some how incompetent and ignorant shows the stupidity and ignorance belongs directed at those who make such claims , not the ones who partake of the identified subject. IMHO.
Much media is identified by one political side, social side or the other, and identified by the editorial side in most publications, and many of the better ones have alternate views by recognized and identified from which side they come from in the same media source.
Many times , in print media, side by side and so identified , see the "Sun Sentinel " in South Florida, New York Times, the Atlantic, Washington Post and so many others.
Some do not but publish outstanding pieces, news , of interest that other media neglect in detail. If there is a slant , the intelligent one's know enough to understand that, search out that which is not slanted, or even on the slanted pieces, examine those pieces and possible learn from them ,, there is another side to the story, possible consider, possible my view is incorrect, or if not fully wrong, major parts of it are. Possible I'll temper my views.
Thats what intelligent people do. Ignoramuses would never allow them selves to be in that position.
To them, a dismissal , a degrading it , the source, both in their mind and loudly to their peers as a indicator of the loud ones displeasure , to something like a "Rag". IMHO
To just dismiss out of hand is idiotic in my view, especially as has been discussed here.
Back to th posted link, the article in question, to me beautifully written , to me one of the better pieces I have seen on the plight of Veteran care and pointing out the incorrectness of cuts falling so draconian on this group of American citizens. IMHO.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 10:24:12 GMT -5
Criticism The Huffington Post has been criticized by several science bloggers, as well as online news sources, for including articles by supporters of alternative medicine and anti-vaccine activists and censoring rebuttals written by science bloggers before publishing.[21][22][23][24] Steven Novella, president of the New England Skeptical Society, criticized The Huffington Post for allowing homeopathy proponent Dana Ullman to have a blog there: "Dana Ullman, a notorious homeopathy apologist, actually has a regular blog over at HuffPo. For those of us who follow such things, the start of his blog there marked the point of no return for the Huffington Post – clearly the editors had decided to go the path of Saruman and "abandon reason for madness." They gave up any pretense of caring about scientific integrity and became a rag of pseudoscience."[25] In February 2011, Visual Art Source, which had previously been cross-posting material from its website, went on strike against The Huffington Post.[26] In April 2011, The Huffington Post was targeted with a multimillion dollar lawsuit filed in United States District Court in New York by Jonathan Tasini on behalf of thousands of uncompensated bloggers.[27]
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 10:27:00 GMT -5
In April 2011, The Huffington Post was targeted with a multimillion dollar lawsuit filed in United States District Court in New York by Jonathan Tasini on behalf of thousands of uncompensated bloggers.[27]
Well then it should be interesting to see how this law suit plays out for the Huffington Post/Rag.....IMHO so let's revisit this topic if it goes to court or not..
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deziloooooo
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 10:40:26 GMT -5
Huffington post is what it is..contributing articles as well as blogs, many celebraty, experts with their thoughts published...as in all things media, it has good and bad, but to dismiss it out of hand..degrade it as a rag, AOL spent $315 million for this "Rag "..and while they may over paid by some who feel so, there is a great value to it, and to so dismiss it as a "Rag ", that to me is only by those who I consider "ignoramouses" IMHO. If some find fault with my so characterization of those who do so, I can only suggest ............" Deal with it " en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Huffington_Post
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 10:46:00 GMT -5
Huffington Post Publishes Creationist Nonsense; Touchy About Criticism I won’t blame anyone for publishing the occasional contrarian piece to stir the pot — we do it too — but this, via Alex Pareene at Salon, is ridiculous: At the Huffington Post, popular liberal news aggregator, nipple slideshow source, and intern slave market, you can get away with writing pretty much any old nonsense you like. Especially if you’re famous, or a friend of Arianna Huffington. One thing you apparently can’t do, though, is criticize the Huffington Post itself for publishing nonsense. I’ve long been a critic of HuffPo’s “Living” section, where fake doctors peddle snake oil cures and vaccine conspiracy theorists spread their poisonous misinformation. Those who read the Huffington Post solely for its (usually good) political content often don’t even realize that a couple verticals away is a den of quackery and pseudoscience… But publishing the new agey holistic naturopath crystal-healing Beverly Hills quack-to-the-stars bullshit of Arianna’s good friend’s nutritionist is one (stupid, potentially dangerous) thing. Giving a platform to the anti-science creationist dingbats at The Discovery Institute is a step in a darker direction. The Discovery Institute aims to make kids learn about “Intelligent Design,” a thing evangelical Christians invented because they were sick of getting made fun of for saying out loud that they believe that Adam and Eve rode dinosaurs. “Intelligent Design” has no basis in science — indeed, it is a sick parody of science — and the motivations behind getting into classrooms are purely political. As part of their “Religion and Science” feature (which looks to be a lot of fashionable mysticism from the usual pop-philosophy hacks — like good ol’ Deepak Chopra) the HuffPo published a post from Discovery Institute Senior Fellow David Klinghoffer blaming Darwin for eugenics and the Nazis. This is cancerous bullshit. Professional anti-science propagandists like Klinghoffer are free to write and publish it, but no one with any respect for their readers or sense of responsibility to the truth should promote it. The ‘Darwin Led To Hitler!’ blather is as pathetic as the Birthers’ conspiracies or claims that global warming is a liberal hoax, but there it is running on the Huffington Post. blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/07/08/huffington-post-publishes-creationist-nonsense-touchy-about-criticism/
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 10:47:41 GMT -5
At the Huffington Post, popular liberal news aggregator, nipple slideshow source, and intern slave market, you can get away with writing pretty much any old nonsense you like. Especially if you’re famous, or a friend of Arianna Huffington. One thing you apparently can’t do, though, is criticize the Huffington Post itself for publishing nonsense.
Well I am NOT a friend of Arianna Huffington and have a tough time understanding what she is talking about with her heavy foreign accent or any of her defenders who are Liberal zealots...and I can and will criticize the Huffington Post/RAG for publishing nonsense...so deal with it...
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Post by ugonow on May 31, 2011 10:57:37 GMT -5
So be it.Don't read it. A lot of people feel the same way about Fox News,Rush, etc.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 11:12:15 GMT -5
So be it.Don't read it. A lot of people feel the same way about Fox News,Rush, etc. Not me I like Fox News (Chris Wallace, Meagan Kelly, and the Fox Foxes) and Rush Limbaugh is entertaining but probably too far out in right field field that you cannot see him sometimes.. But some of the Huffington Post articles reposted on this board have been nothing more than Liberal garbage that stinks up this Poltical forum... edited to add Chris Wallace and throw Chris Matthew's name in the round file
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 11:47:43 GMT -5
"Those who read the Huffington Post solely for its (usually good) political content often don’t even realize that a couple verticals away is a den of quackery and pseudoscience" ----------------------------------------------------
Thar you go, and it is me..I do a quick when I go to it, not ever so often as some, thinking Lakhota here, but when he does bring a piece over here, unless to long, got to post shorter and let us go to it, but am digressing, they are interesting articles, some go with, occasionally not, and for the rest I never, ever spend time on it, so possible am just not aware.
Will know , next time visiting, spend a bit more time looking, see what is the hue and cry all about.
From what I think see as I had skimmed quickly after reading what I am interested in, it's been like the obits in a paper in a city I am visiting, know no one, just no interest, just turn the page.
If the objection had been aimed at that particular aspect of the subject, no comments from me...in fact , after checking it out for veracity, I would have joined in and added my prose to the hue and cry, and added a few more adjectives then just a "rag " piece, but for what I read in the subject under discussion, no way does "Rag " describe the items published that I am interested in, thus my.... ---------------------------------------------- Then again when I come across a post from some where that espouses,
"But some of the Huffington Post articles reposted on this board have been nothing more than Liberal garbage that stinks up this Poltical forum... "
I have to go back and agree my feelings of any who would so post just because the particuler article posted is from a side of the political spectrum they are not comfortable with, in tune with, opposite side from their feelings, , and so many times it is not espousing such a feeling , just a factual discussion of a event, sometimes with the authors feelings on the subject, sometimes not, but to express their feelings as
"that stinks up this Poltical forum... "
thoughts like that , to me, possible no one else, just reek of stupidity and the "ignoramouse" adjective just jumps to the front of my mind, just can't keep it down.
I guess I just have to ..."deal with it "...but to not comment on the stupidity of it, just so hard, as much as I try to not respond. IMHO.
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Post by b2r on May 31, 2011 11:52:46 GMT -5
Chris Matthews?
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 11:58:29 GMT -5
Chris Matthews?[/quote][/color]
Sorry for the screw up I should have said Chris Wallace....on Fox and not Chris Matthews who is a bully and blowhard on MSNBC...
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Post by cme1201 on May 31, 2011 12:00:11 GMT -5
So be it.Don't read it. A lot of people feel the same way about Fox News,Rush, etc. Not me I like Fox News (Chris Wallace, Meagan Kelly, and the Fox Foxes) and Rush Limbaugh is entertaining but probably too far out in right field field that you cannot see him sometimes.. But some of the Huffington Post articles reposted on this board have been nothing more than Liberal garbage that stinks up this Poltical forum... I think this quote from you PI is what has b2r wondering about chris. ETA: fix the Chris issue.
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Post by b2r on May 31, 2011 12:04:32 GMT -5
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Sorry, I see cme1201 beat me to it.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 31, 2011 14:00:27 GMT -5
This message has been deleted. Sorry, I see cme1201 beat me to it. That was another case of my fingers doing the talking before my brain could catch up...why I didn't say Wallace instead of Matthews is just another senior moment...again
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