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Post by mmhmm on May 29, 2011 20:17:37 GMT -5
HORRIBLE story. Tenn-- what do you mean my buddy??? I believe kofi had a Cane Corso Mastiff. Nah. Kofi's dog was a Boerboel. I understand he had to give him up. I know that must have been hard for him. He really cared about that dog.
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Post by mmhmm on May 29, 2011 20:19:48 GMT -5
KOFI?? You assume KOFI had a killer dog?? WHY?? Post proof of that, or even just anything that points that way!!! Do it now, Tenn, or you are slandering him. I think Tennesseer is talking about the time Zucca killed Kofi's son's pet, krickitt. Kofi was very upset about it at the time.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 29, 2011 20:22:30 GMT -5
Reported. Uncalled for attack and insinuation that krickitt slanders people.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 20:22:40 GMT -5
Good grief, Tenn!!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 20:23:28 GMT -5
Thx, frug, handy.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on May 29, 2011 20:33:44 GMT -5
EVERYONE: PLAY NICE ON THIS THREAD. The topic is the dog Krickitt found.... let's keep our eye on the ball, shall we?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 20:36:16 GMT -5
Marsha!! You're here!! Hope you had a good day today.
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Post by moon/Laura on May 29, 2011 21:39:10 GMT -5
KOFI?? You assume KOFI had a killer dog?? WHY?? Post proof of that, or even just anything that points that way!!! Do it now, Tenn, or you are slandering him. i don't believe tenn was saying Kofi's dog was the killer in the story.. i think he was only saying he thought it was the same breed.. that's all.. hard to say for sure. the wording is a bit ambiguous.. i know nothing of the pet that may (or may not) have been killed by said dog.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 29, 2011 21:43:23 GMT -5
KOFI?? You assume KOFI had a killer dog?? WHY?? Post proof of that, or even just anything that points that way!!! Do it now, Tenn, or you are slandering him. krickitt-where did I state (or even assume) kofi had a killer dog. I stated "I believe kofi had a Cane Corso Mastiff.". No where did I post or even insinuate kofi had a killer dog. If you took my statement "I believe the dog in this story is the one your buddy used to have." to mean the dog in the story was kofi's dog then I should have been more specific and said "I believe the dog in this story is the breed your buddy used to have." And even if it was kofi's |(former) dog in the story, kofi was not the owner of the dog in the story so kofi would not have been responsible for the child's death. You and I both know kofi's real name and his name is not mentioned in the story. So it couldn't be kofi. Right?
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Post by mmhmm on May 29, 2011 21:47:07 GMT -5
KOFI?? You assume KOFI had a killer dog?? WHY?? Post proof of that, or even just anything that points that way!!! Do it now, Tenn, or you are slandering him. i don't believe tenn was saying Kofi's dog was the killer in the story.. i think he was only saying he thought it was the same breed.. that's all.. hard to say for sure. the wording is a bit ambiguous.. i know nothing of the pet that may (or may not) have been killed by said dog. It was really very sad, Moonbeam. Kofi had gone to visit his son and taken Zucca (his dog) with him. When the family came out on the porch to greet Kofi, the cat (I'm pretty sure it was a cat) came out with them. Zucca, being a dog, did in the cat. Kofi was awfully upset and sad about what had happened. He talked about it on the old MSNBC boards (or the UK ones ... not sure which). I really felt for him, as he felt responsible when it was just an accident.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 21:53:27 GMT -5
I never knew Kofi's GFs name, Tenn, and you know very well how I care for Kofi, and that it would upset me if you insinuated that dog was Kofi's and it killed a child. There was NO reason to mention Kofi, and it wasn't even the same kind of dog. But you carry on.
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Post by moon/Laura on May 29, 2011 22:07:41 GMT -5
that IS a sad story, mmhmm... i'd feel bad too...
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Post by mmhmm on May 29, 2011 22:11:41 GMT -5
I never knew Kofi's GFs name, Tenn, and you know very well how I care for Kofi, and that it would upset me if you insinuated that dog was Kofi's and it killed a child. There was NO reason to mention Kofi, and it wasn't even the same kind of dog. But you carry on. Tennesseer didn't insinuate it was Kofi's dog that killed the child, krickitt. Tenn thought it was the same kind of dog Kofi had, but it wasn't. Others have made mistakes about what kind of dog Kofi had. J R Brown was convinced Zucca was some variety of dog other than a Boerboel, as well. Boerboel is not a breed one hears about. That's why I remembered it ... I had to look it up the first time Kofi mentioned it and it stuck in my mind.
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Post by mmhmm on May 29, 2011 22:13:56 GMT -5
Ya know, it must be something in the phase of the moon. It seems to me some people are very, very hyper-sensitive today. Maybe it's the fact that tomorrow is Memorial Day and people are feeling more introspective. Dunno, but it's sure happenin'!
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Post by deziloooooo on May 29, 2011 23:05:04 GMT -5
Reported. Uncalled for attack and insinuation that krickitt slanders people. Where did I insinuate that..just that it seems hilariouse that here on these boards , with what is posted by so many posters, I could go and cut and paste a few hundred comments as examples, that Krickett would be upset if Tenn, who I don't think did, but she suggested he did, post a slander and that she , Krickett, it was she making the accusation would be upset or shocked, thats all. Think you misunderstood Marsha.
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on May 30, 2011 11:53:01 GMT -5
Pit bulls were raised to fight other animals, and can have an inbred aggression towards other animals. Handlers would put down dog who showed aggression towards humans, which means they can also have an inbred non-aggression towards humans. We rescued our pit when she was about six months old, and have had her 11 years. She has never once showed the slightest bit of aggression towards any person, including an idiotic little girl who walked up and began slapping her nose. She gets along fine with my cats, and just wants to play with other dogs.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2011 12:14:43 GMT -5
Thx, Dawg. When I was a young adult I had a ST. Bernard. GREAT dog, and at that time they had a terrible reputation for turning on their owners. I NEVER had a bit of trouble with Cody, but once when someone pushed ME down in my home Cody knocked her down. Very effective at stopping an attack having a 200 lb dog jump on someone's back. I was living in Austin at the time, there was a serial rapist on the loose, and I went everywhere and did whatever I chose to do WITH my huge dog. There IS something to be said for having a breed people are afraid of. We also had a very scary looking Dobie that would run hide if anything scary happened. The St. Bernard was very dominant over the Doby.
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Post by moon/Laura on May 30, 2011 12:18:42 GMT -5
We had a doby when i was younger.. she sounded ferocious when she barked through the fence but she was more likely to lick you to death than anything...
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Post by privateinvestor on May 30, 2011 12:25:49 GMT -5
My favorite dog is a German Sheppard and there is not a day that goes by that I don't think of JoJo who was one awesome German Shepard who loved kids. He was a smart dog who could do almost everything but talk...
Whoever said if you want a friend get a dog should have said if you want a friend forever get a German Sheppard
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2011 12:36:30 GMT -5
LOL, sounds like my old Doby. He had a crazy look in his eyes, but if he ran at anyone he was most likely going to jump in their lap. I did learn not to swim with my St. Bernard after he almost drowned me in the river once. He was used to jumping up and putting his paws on my shoulders, and kept dunking me trying to play. I thought I was a goner, but, obviously, I got away from him. I hope I can find a home for this pup. We have enough animals. I'll make phone calls tomorrow, but pits are real popular here, and get dumped a lot, so I may have to find him a home on my own. Maybe someone will help me since he is still a pup. If anyone here lives near me and wants this pup I'll get him vet checked and shots if you will just come get him. He's not shy, either, does not seem to have been abused. He likes to swim, too.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2011 12:41:03 GMT -5
Yep-- the smartest dog I ever owned was my German Shep. His eyes would look straight in to mine, and he really did seem to understand human speech very well.
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Post by privateinvestor on May 30, 2011 12:55:06 GMT -5
Yep-- the smartest dog I ever owned was my German Shep. His eyes would look straight in to mine, and he really did seem to understand human speech very well. The military uses a lot of German Sheps because they are easier to train than most other dogs.... but can be too overprotective of kids because they love them so much..our shep would plant himself outside our little guy's bedroom door and you could not enter his bedroom until he woke up....
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 31, 2011 14:15:22 GMT -5
In my opinion, a pit bull is a fine dog to have for the right people. However, it is not unlike owning an exotic animal-- they are, at heart, animals. They do not need to be mean, or intend to do harm in order to do great harm. A playful romp with the other dogs could turn into a severe injury, or death-- and it's the same with children. Personally, I like the breed. We have friends with a pit, and he's a sweetheart-- but we don't allow our kids to be in that dog's presence.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on May 31, 2011 14:17:05 GMT -5
I LOVE German Shepards. I want one. My wife keeps mumbling something about she's allergic or something. I don't know-- might get one anyway. The kids LOVE them-- even my little girl knows her dogs well enough that she lights up when she sees one. I think it's just meant to be.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 31, 2011 14:17:10 GMT -5
What about a rescue society? There is someone on here that rescues pits, I want to say Mad Dog Wiccan but I am not 100% for sure.
A rescue society could put the puppy in a foster home and if it is anything like the rescue society I looked into adopting from they really screen clients to make sure the dog is put in the proper home (like some ads would say no other pets, no kids etc).
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 14:23:38 GMT -5
What about a rescue society? There is someone on here that rescues pits, I want to say Mad Dog Wiccan but I am not 100% for sure. A rescue society could put the puppy in a foster home and if it is anything like the rescue society I looked into adopting from they really screen clients to make sure the dog is put in the proper home (like some ads would say no other pets, no kids etc). Good suggestion, there seems to be a big movement in that direction in many communities , a good friend is or was, a President of such a society in the Phoenix area, and it was a big thing with him and the members, doing very good work.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 31, 2011 14:29:21 GMT -5
Lots of Pit rescue societies are popping up around here because you are not supposed to own one around here and if you already owned one before the law went into effect it's a MASSIVE amount of paperwork to keep the dog.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 31, 2011 14:29:31 GMT -5
Krickett , in case you haven't checked it out, I found this site, I could not remember where exactly it was you lived in Az but this might help you out..find one near you and give em a call, seems many "rescue organizations available ", thanks drama for the mental nudge. Hope it helps in your attempt to find a home for the animal. muttcats.com/shelters/arizona.htm
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Post by Angel! on May 31, 2011 14:53:51 GMT -5
Most severe injuries from pits or other dogs were not just a playful romp gone wrong. A small nip or claw stratch is about the worst you will get (assuming you aren't sending your 18 month old to run around with a rotti, where a simple mis-step could seriously injure the kid). A dog acting agressively has completely different behavior, sound, & body language than a dog just playing. Also, most of the time when you hear "the dog attacked without any warning" it isn't true, the people just weren't able to read the warning signs.
Pits aren't any more aggressive than other dogs when raised appropriately, they actually tend to be really sweet dogs. The biggest problem with pits is that they are unbelievably strong & when they bite they tend to clamp down & not let go. So an aggressive pit is far more likely to cause serious injury than other aggressive dogs.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2011 15:18:04 GMT -5
Well, my kids like the pup, and won't let me try to get it placed. Since they are adults they can do what they want. I showed them this thread, and some links I found, both pro and con, about pits. They won't budge on this. They like the pup. He seems like a nice dog. Best I can hope is that it is all anti-pit propaganda, and that if he is raised around our dogs and the people here, including the toddlers, he will not be mean. If it was up to ME, I would get rid of him. Not to a shelter-- full of death bound pits, but to a rescue place or individual. BUT-- I have been over-ruled in this. Thank you all for your comments, and Moon for special permission to start a non-political thread.
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