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Post by zibazinski on Feb 27, 2019 9:13:42 GMT -5
I made my kids read to me while I got dinner ready. I told them they owed me for all the stories I told them when they were younger.
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Post by gs11rmb on Feb 27, 2019 10:01:33 GMT -5
I'm back to worrying about my 6 year old DD. Her latest report card came home and for Reading and ELA she's "working below grade level". Every day she spends 45 minutes with a different teacher in a session called Reading Mastery. I spoke to that teacher last week and he said she was working hard and progressing and he may move her up to the next level. He said he hasn't seen any signs that there's an underlying disorder so I'm trying to focus on that for now and not stress out my daughter. Having her work on her sight words or read to me is often a terrible chore but I'm not sure if she can't do it or if she's just really tired after a long day. Last night I thought she was going to cry when I asked her to read a Bob book in bed so I didn't make her and then she fell asleep during the first chapter I read of the Magic Treehouse book we're reading. She's a very strong-willed child and I'm never sure when she's being stubborn and when she's just had enough. I really don't want to make reading unpleasant. I had the same problem with DD. She was behind in reading because she hates to look stupid, and unless she is immediately good at something, she doesn't want to do it. Keep reading to her, make her read stuff on her own (lego instructions, make a cake, directions in the car, road signs, etc.). She eventually got it after 3 years of reading help at school, and now she's way above grade level. The bolded part sounds very familiar . Thanks for the reassurance that it will one day just click.
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Post by oped on Feb 27, 2019 10:14:05 GMT -5
I'm back to worrying about my 6 year old DD. Her latest report card came home and for Reading and ELA she's "working below grade level". Every day she spends 45 minutes with a different teacher in a session called Reading Mastery. I spoke to that teacher last week and he said she was working hard and progressing and he may move her up to the next level. He said he hasn't seen any signs that there's an underlying disorder so I'm trying to focus on that for now and not stress out my daughter. Having her work on her sight words or read to me is often a terrible chore but I'm not sure if she can't do it or if she's just really tired after a long day. Last night I thought she was going to cry when I asked her to read a Bob book in bed so I didn't make her and then she fell asleep during the first chapter I read of the Magic Treehouse book we're reading. She's a very strong-willed child and I'm never sure when she's being stubborn and when she's just had enough. I really don't want to make reading unpleasant. I had the same problem with DD. She was behind in reading because she hates to look stupid, and unless she is immediately good at something, she doesn't want to do it. Keep reading to her, make her read stuff on her own (lego instructions, make a cake, directions in the car, road signs, etc.). She eventually got it after 3 years of reading help at school, and now she's way above grade level. Also because maybe developmentally she wasn't ready to read and quite possibly even without that three years of 'extra help' she read exactly when she was ready to anyway.... I know, you can't test it now. But I've seen it often enough to question. Anyway, the recommendations are good. I'd add put CC on the tv. and IF its frustrational, then read it with her. A six year old is just way too young to worry in my opinion. Best thing you can do is to NOT make her hate reading and assure her that reading comes at different speeds to different brains and there is absolutely nothing wrong with hers or her. Remind yourself you aren't really interested in a 6 year old reader. You are interested in a life-long reader. Don't put up a wall or obstacle at 6 that will make the long term goal difficult. Plenty of time for remediation IF there is an issue later. Sight words, I bought this dolche gumball set on Teacherspayteachers (which is having a sale today) and gumball size round stickers on amazon. The set has dolche words separated into lists and each time tutor girl reads one correctly she puts a gumball on her gumball machine. She likes it. I can give you the link if you want. It's not my product. Lists are short and we can do 1 if she's tired, or 3-4 if she wants to earn more gumballs. when she has six of one color (read it correctly 6 times) we remove that list and add a new one to circulation. It is also editable so you can add/change lists/words. But this will probably only work another month maybe? and i'll have to switch it up again. She is 8 though. Two years with a lot of difference.
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Post by swamp on Feb 27, 2019 10:17:11 GMT -5
I had the same problem with DD. She was behind in reading because she hates to look stupid, and unless she is immediately good at something, she doesn't want to do it. Keep reading to her, make her read stuff on her own (lego instructions, make a cake, directions in the car, road signs, etc.). She eventually got it after 3 years of reading help at school, and now she's way above grade level. Also because maybe developmentally she wasn't ready to read and quite possibly even without that three years of 'extra help' she read exactly when she was ready to anyway.... I know, you can't test it now. But I've seen it often enough to question. Anyway, the recommendations are good. I'd add put CC on the tv. and IF its frustrational, then read it with her. A six year old is just way too young to worry in my opinion. Best thing you can do is to NOT make her hate reading and assure her that reading comes at different speeds to different brains and there is absolutely nothing wrong with hers or her. Remind yourself you aren't really interested in a 6 year old reader. You are interested in a life-long reader. Don't put up a wall or obstacle at 6 that will make the long term goal difficult. Plenty of time for remediation IF there is an issue later. Sight words, I bought this dolche gumball set on Teacherspayteachers (which is having a sale today) and gumball size round stickers on amazon. The set has dolche words separated into lists and each time tutor girl reads one correctly she puts a gumball on her gumball machine. She likes it. I can give you the link if you want. It's not my product. Lists are short and we can do 1 if she's tired, or 3-4 if she wants to earn more gumballs. when she has six of one color (read it correctly 6 times) we remove that list and add a new one to circulation. It is also editable so you can add/change lists/words. But this will probably only work another month maybe? and i'll have to switch it up again. She is 8 though. Two years with a lot of difference. that is also possible, but it's weird. verbally she has always been advance, and she has no issues with math. It was only the reading.
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Post by Sharon on Feb 27, 2019 10:23:46 GMT -5
My DD wasn't really a fluent reader until 3rd grade. We did tutoring, had charts on the walls at home, eyes tested etc. It just didn't click until 3rd grade, when she was about 8 years old. It was American Girl books when it finally all came together. After everything we had been through with trying to read I was more than happy to pay the price for an American Girl doll.
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Post by gs11rmb on Feb 27, 2019 10:49:58 GMT -5
I had the same problem with DD. She was behind in reading because she hates to look stupid, and unless she is immediately good at something, she doesn't want to do it. Keep reading to her, make her read stuff on her own (lego instructions, make a cake, directions in the car, road signs, etc.). She eventually got it after 3 years of reading help at school, and now she's way above grade level. Also because maybe developmentally she wasn't ready to read and quite possibly even without that three years of 'extra help' she read exactly when she was ready to anyway.... I know, you can't test it now. But I've seen it often enough to question. Anyway, the recommendations are good. I'd add put CC on the tv. and IF its frustrational, then read it with her. A six year old is just way too young to worry in my opinion. Best thing you can do is to NOT make her hate reading and assure her that reading comes at different speeds to different brains and there is absolutely nothing wrong with hers or her. Remind yourself you aren't really interested in a 6 year old reader. You are interested in a life-long reader. Don't put up a wall or obstacle at 6 that will make the long term goal difficult. Plenty of time for remediation IF there is an issue later. Sight words, I bought this dolche gumball set on Teacherspayteachers (which is having a sale today) and gumball size round stickers on amazon. The set has dolche words separated into lists and each time tutor girl reads one correctly she puts a gumball on her gumball machine. She likes it. I can give you the link if you want. It's not my product. Lists are short and we can do 1 if she's tired, or 3-4 if she wants to earn more gumballs. when she has six of one color (read it correctly 6 times) we remove that list and add a new one to circulation. It is also editable so you can add/change lists/words. But this will probably only work another month maybe? and i'll have to switch it up again. She is 8 though. Two years with a lot of difference. Absolutely! I do not want her to worry at all. A friend's 7 year old daughter was recently diagnosed with dyslexia and she told her aunt that she thought all her friends were smarter. This is a kid that during the dyslexia testing scored in the 99th percentile on a variety of tests (but 12th percentile on reading). She's super smart. My friend was heartbroken that her child thought she was dumb. I'd appreciate the gumball link. Thanks!
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Feb 27, 2019 11:01:29 GMT -5
C, in 3rd grade, hates to read. He's not the worst reader but just doesn't want to do it. We had some success with Minecraft and Lego books for a while but now we're back to hating it and not wanting to read.
On a more worrying note, he's also started smacking himself on the head when he feels he's been bad or is stupid. We're trying to reassure him that's not the case and that hitting oneself isn't a good way to get rid of frustrations but I'll take suggestions. He's also gotten very mouthy lately.
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 27, 2019 11:13:47 GMT -5
C is letting me read him "Tales of a 4th Grade Nothing". He hasn't let me read him a bedtime story in years. (My parents read to me until I was 14 and going into highschool...) It's been a fun book that we can both laugh with.
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Post by raeoflyte on Feb 27, 2019 11:20:22 GMT -5
C, in 3rd grade, hates to read. He's not the worst reader but just doesn't want to do it. We had some success with Minecraft and Lego books for a while but now we're back to hating it and not wanting to read.
On a more worrying note, he's also started smacking himself on the head when he feels he's been bad or is stupid. We're trying to reassure him that's not the case and that hitting oneself isn't a good way to get rid of frustrations but I'll take suggestions. He's also gotten very mouthy lately.
Does he like graphic novels? Might ease him back into it? My C also really likes the historical fiction books like the I Survived books, and the weird fact books. I don't have any suggestions for hitting himself, but both of mine have done that at various stages and then it just kind of stops. For the mouthiness all I have is sympathy. I really didn't think attitude started at 9, but it has for us. I'm not sure how we'll get through the next 10 years.
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Post by gs11rmb on Feb 27, 2019 11:21:02 GMT -5
C is letting me read him "Tales of a 4th Grade Nothing". He hasn't let me read him a bedtime story in years. (My parents read to me until I was 14 and going into highschool...) It's been a fun book that we can both laugh with. My 10 year old is reading that right now!
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 27, 2019 13:46:53 GMT -5
C, in 3rd grade, hates to read. He's not the worst reader but just doesn't want to do it. We had some success with Minecraft and Lego books for a while but now we're back to hating it and not wanting to read.
On a more worrying note, he's also started smacking himself on the head when he feels he's been bad or is stupid. We're trying to reassure him that's not the case and that hitting oneself isn't a good way to get rid of frustrations but I'll take suggestions. He's also gotten very mouthy lately.
My now adult kids were readers until they hit 5th grade or so. At that time getting them to keep reading was "somewhat" of a struggle but I did something similar to what Wisconsin Beth describes above: I bought every book/magazine I could find on the subject they were interested in at the time. That meant for years DS1 almost exclusively read about sports (mostly baseball) and DS2 computer books and magazines. I didn't care that it was not geared toward kids I just wanted them to keep reading. Though I must admit that I DID mind the endless recitals of baseball statistics any time DS1 was around but I refrained from saying anything about it.
Now, when we are together there are always at least a couple of hours of complete silence while we have our nose in our books. Their respective partners are also very much into reading so we can be a pretty boring group to outsiders at times
Long story short: do what it takes to keep them reading even if that means buying books with knock-knock jokes and taking turns reading them
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Post by Sharon on Feb 27, 2019 14:09:57 GMT -5
C, in 3rd grade, hates to read. He's not the worst reader but just doesn't want to do it. We had some success with Minecraft and Lego books for a while but now we're back to hating it and not wanting to read.
On a more worrying note, he's also started smacking himself on the head when he feels he's been bad or is stupid. We're trying to reassure him that's not the case and that hitting oneself isn't a good way to get rid of frustrations but I'll take suggestions. He's also gotten very mouthy lately.
My now adult kids were readers until they hit 5th grade or so. At that time getting them to keep reading was "somewhat" of a struggle but I did something similar to what @wisconsinbeth describes above: I bought every book/magazine I could find on the subject they were interested in at the time. That meant for years DS1 almost exclusively read about sports (mostly baseball) and DS2 computer books and magazines. I didn't care that it was not geared toward kids I just wanted them to keep reading. Though I must admit that I DID mind the endless recitals of baseball statistics any time DS1 was around but I refrained from saying anything about it.
Now, when we are together there are always at least a couple of hours of complete silence while we have our nose in our books. Their respective partners are also very much into reading so we can be a pretty boring group to outsiders at times
Long story short: do what it takes to keep them reading even if that means buying books with knock-knock jokes and taking turns reading them
Oh that brings back memories of my brother reading us endless records from the Guinness Book of World records while on trips in the car. He got a new one every year for Christmas. That and the books about Ripleys believe it or not.
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Post by MJ2.0 on Feb 27, 2019 15:15:51 GMT -5
I introduced DS to Wacky Mad Libs at Christmas, and he’s now asking to do them every day. They get him reading and writing (plus comprehension since he’s figuring out if the word I added will make sense/be funny in the existing sentence) and laughing.
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Post by azucena on Feb 27, 2019 15:35:42 GMT -5
Severely limited screen time makes my kids bored enough to read Not sure if I posted here about my reluctant kindergartner who is stubborn and mostly didn't want to read because big sister loves it. One day I told her that if she doesn't learn to read that she won't be able to spell inappropriate words...ya know like 'poop'. She said I can totally spell that p.o.p. Nope, sound that out. Oh, that pop what makes the ooo sound again. Then she proceeded to work her way through spelling fart, butt, toot,...notice a theme. I swear that kick started her reading just before Christmas as did finding better books. The BOB books are great but let's face it there is no story. So we moved on to early chapter books and she began reading every two and three letter words in those. Then, we moved to 4 and then she started getting stubborn again to move to five so I started challenging her for longest word of the day and she usually finds something that 10-15 letters and we cheer her new personal records each day. I guess stubborn and competitive go together at least in her case LOL. I posted a list of our recent favorite in the what are you reading thread.
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Post by crazycat on Feb 27, 2019 16:01:36 GMT -5
My oldest boy didn’t want to read either . We tried everything. Finally , hubby got him some Pokémon cards . Yep , that worked for him. He loved reading those . Went on to the comic books , graphic novels, and by first grade was hooked . By second grade he was reading Harry Potter .
I also had a boy in my Daycare that didn’t like to read . Mom kept pushing books on him , he liked sports , auto magazines , so I let him read those . I told his mom let him read whatever he wants , as long as it gets him reading . She finally gave in .
I say whatever works for the child - cards , magazines , comics, books ,etc .
Good luck to all 😀
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Post by geenamercile on Feb 27, 2019 16:04:18 GMT -5
We had multiple 8th graders today suspended for vaping These are kids across all levels. These are the times that I really am okay with ODD being home schooled.
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Post by lurkyloo on Feb 27, 2019 20:45:10 GMT -5
Absolutely follow the child‘s interests-offering things to read that they’re interested in makes things much easier. Also, take expectations with a big grain of salt. To my understanding the common core standards are not developmentally appropriate for a significant fraction of their intended population. I’ve been pretty horrified at some of the things DS is bringing home from (private Montessori) kindergarten-pretty sure parts of speech and fractions and multiplication are supposed to be mid-elementary, not K.
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Post by gracendignity on Feb 27, 2019 22:51:04 GMT -5
I used to work in 2 of the elementary schools in my county in the library. Dream job for me as I was/am a voracious reader. I subscribe to the let-them-read-whatever-they are interested-in theory, too. When the Goosebumps books and Fear Street books came out some of the teachers despised them, but I can't tell you how many nonreaders discovered the joy of books with those series. Babysitters Club books worked, too. By pointing them to nonfiction--mostly sports or space-related--many of my boys became readers. I say whatever works! I think for some kids reading was just another have-to thing to do and it took awhile for them to realize it was also for pleasure. Raeoflyte, your son might like How To Eat Fried Worms. I read it to my 2nd-4th graders every year and they loved it. They made a movie of it a few years ago, but the book was much better--but isn't it always?
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Post by azucena on Feb 28, 2019 7:58:24 GMT -5
I used to work in 2 of the elementary schools in my county in the library. Dream job for me as I was/am a voracious reader. I subscribe to the let-them-read-whatever-they are interested-in theory, too. When the Goosebumps books and Fear Street books came out some of the teachers despised them, but I can't tell you how many nonreaders discovered the joy of books with those series. Babysitters Club books worked, too. By pointing them to nonfiction--mostly sports or space-related--many of my boys became readers. I say whatever works! I think for some kids reading was just another have-to thing to do and it took awhile for them to realize it was also for pleasure. Raeoflyte, your son might like How To Eat Fried Worms. I read it to my 2nd-4th graders every year and they loved it. They made a movie of it a few years ago, but the book was much better--but isn't it always?
The movie isn't bad and could be used as a reward for finishing the book
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Post by cael on Feb 28, 2019 10:25:06 GMT -5
Hey everyone, long time no see!! I would never have time to catch up on everything lol, I hope everyone is doing well! Someone give me a brief rundown of anything important I've missed! We're doing well. Ant has gotten pretty beastly since he hit 2.5 but also more fun if that makes sense. He's talking a blue streak now, even though a lot of it still isn't understandable and he has trouble saying certain sounds. He's doing great in daycare, we're getting ready to move him into a big boy room/bed and I'm tryyyyying to plant the idea of trying the potty lol. I'm leaving work for a few hours shortly so he can have a speech visit with a PT eval from early intervention, they've noticed he gets tired and stops motor activities quickly and sits in a W, so while he's under 3 they want to see if he'd qualify for anything else. He's been doing great with his speech visits. He had an ear infection last week and I have walking pneumonia this week, 'tis the season Aaaaaand just got a text from daycare that he has a fever of 102 again, so I gotta run. I'll try to stop back in at some point, I miss the conversation here!
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Post by gs11rmb on Feb 28, 2019 11:28:44 GMT -5
Glad you're doing well... apart from cold/flu season!
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Post by MJ2.0 on Feb 28, 2019 11:30:03 GMT -5
Hey everyone, long time no see!! I would never have time to catch up on everything lol, I hope everyone is doing well! Someone give me a brief rundown of anything important I've missed! We're doing well. Ant has gotten pretty beastly since he hit 2.5 but also more fun if that makes sense. He's talking a blue streak now, even though a lot of it still isn't understandable and he has trouble saying certain sounds. He's doing great in daycare, we're getting ready to move him into a big boy room/bed and I'm tryyyyying to plant the idea of trying the potty lol. I'm leaving work for a few hours shortly so he can have a speech visit with a PT eval from early intervention, they've noticed he gets tired and stops motor activities quickly and sits in a W, so while he's under 3 they want to see if he'd qualify for anything else. He's been doing great with his speech visits. He had an ear infection last week and I have walking pneumonia this week, 'tis the season Aaaaaand just got a text from daycare that he has a fever of 102 again, so I gotta run. I'll try to stop back in at some point, I miss the conversation here!
I was wondering how you've been! Stop in more often!
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 28, 2019 21:32:12 GMT -5
Well we'll know in two weeks if DH has a job or not. And if that job is in Omaha.
We discussed it and I'm not willing to relocate where they'd want us to go. I just got my shit together career wise and there is nothing out there for me. I'm not comfortable with DH being the sole breadwinner.
I also don't want to take the kids from their grandparents.
Not for a $37k job at any rate. We're better off here at that salary.
The stress of not knowing is killing me.
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Post by justme on Feb 28, 2019 22:24:57 GMT -5
Well we'll know in two weeks if DH has a job or not. And if that job is in Omaha. We discussed it and I'm not willing to relocate where they'd want us to go. I just got my shit together career wise and there is nothing out there for me. I'm not comfortable with DH being the sole breadwinner. I also don't want to take the kids from their grandparents. Not for a $37k job at any rate. We're better off here at that salary. The stress of not knowing is killing me. FWIW - from the business side when the salary is that low they'll usually take you if you really want to move, but realistically they're not expecting anyone to. I don't think we even often offer relocation to those people, but I could be wrong. For low dollar positions, we're banking on severance as a part of the cost to move not employees moving. Part of me thinks we legally have to offer it to them, but I'm not 100% on that.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Feb 28, 2019 22:28:47 GMT -5
Really annoyed with my DH. 8 yo turns 9 tomorrow. Wanted to bring donuts for class treat. I'm thinking, fine, the smaller ones with frosting and sprinkles. My DH went to the store to get them. Pretty sure I mentioned a few times, the smaller cake donuts, or cupcakes if they didn't have those. I was even going to send DS along to pick them out. My DH brought home enormous adult type donuts--apple fritters and glazed donuts. The teacher is going to hate me. The classmates aren't going to like them as much, and I'm wondering wtf my DH was thinking. You should have told him to get donut holes. Reminds me of Jeanne Roberts video "Don't send a man to the store". He said he wasn't going to spend near the same amount on donut holes. I'm sure there were other options, either in a different section, or I told him he might have to get cupcakes. Anyway, the kids pretty much ate them all up. I can't believe it. Parent-teacher conferences are soon, so I may find out soon how that went over.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 28, 2019 22:43:50 GMT -5
Well we'll know in two weeks if DH has a job or not. And if that job is in Omaha. We discussed it and I'm not willing to relocate where they'd want us to go. I just got my shit together career wise and there is nothing out there for me. I'm not comfortable with DH being the sole breadwinner. I also don't want to take the kids from their grandparents. Not for a $37k job at any rate. We're better off here at that salary. The stress of not knowing is killing me. FWIW - from the business side when the salary is that low they'll usually take you if you really want to move, but realistically they're not expecting anyone to. I don't think we even often offer relocation to those people, but I could be wrong. For low dollar positions, we're banking on severance as a part of the cost to move not employees moving. Part of me thinks we legally have to offer it to them, but I'm not 100% on that. I've been wondering if they just bought the brand and plan on booting all nine employees out while claiming they offered people A job and they said no. The partners all get some more millions in their pockets while us little guys get screwed. Or they keep the office here and life continues on just under a different corporate umbrella. That's what happened with the company I work at now. He gets a "retention bonus" of $13k but he can't look for another job till April if he wants paid out. It's pissing me off because it puts us in a bind if this is cleverly packaged severance. I'd prefer he look NOW but that $13k even with taxes taken out is far more than we'd get from UE and could get us thru four months.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 28, 2019 22:59:59 GMT -5
I did suggest if they DO want him and want him to move to make a case to remote from Omaha. His job just needs a computer really. The buyer has a headquarters here and Omaha is centrally located to all their ranches and a large portion of their customer base.
Might as well go for broke we'd end up in the same position regardless.
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Post by justme on Feb 28, 2019 23:24:14 GMT -5
FWIW - from the business side when the salary is that low they'll usually take you if you really want to move, but realistically they're not expecting anyone to. I don't think we even often offer relocation to those people, but I could be wrong. For low dollar positions, we're banking on severance as a part of the cost to move not employees moving. Part of me thinks we legally have to offer it to them, but I'm not 100% on that. I've been wondering if they just bought the brand and plan on booting all nine employees out while claiming they offered people A job and they said no. The partners all get some more millions in their pockets while us little guys get screwed. Or they keep the office here and life continues on just under a different corporate umbrella. That's what happened with the company I work at now. He gets a "retention bonus" of $13k but he can't look for another job till April if he wants paid out. It's pissing me off because it puts us in a bind if this is cleverly packaged severance. I'd prefer he look NOW but that $13k even with taxes taken out is far more than we'd get from UE and could get us thru four months. I'm not quite sure of the distance, but if it's 50-75 miles away (forget the cutoff, the new guy took over those projects for me) we pretty much assume all hourly employees won't move. It's not quite the same instance as we're closing/moving vs a buy out. (But when we buy companies most go bye bye as well, but we're a huge freaking company and usually absorb the new company into our network and close their office. We're talking companies that have less than 1% of our revenue though)
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Post by alabamagal on Mar 1, 2019 8:02:28 GMT -5
Drama - there is no way I would move for his job in your situation. If you are close to 50/50 with each of your salaries, you shouldn’t give up your job to move for his and have him try to fit into a new corporate structure, which can be risky job wise. Even if he gets a job offer, the new company could just consider him as valuable for the transition period. Plus where you are you have family support, own a house, etc. don’t let the male ego “I don’t eat to lose my job” factor into your decision.
Plus right now is a good time to be job hunting. Low unemployment gas companies actively looking for candidates, a lot different than how things were last time he was job hunting. And “company bought out, closed location” is a good excuse for job loss. And don’t do anything to jeopardize the retention bonus.
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