57th Chicago mayor installed yesterday

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abc7chicago.com/chicago-mayor-brandon-johnson-inauguration-livestream-credit-union-1-arena-mayoral-2023/13249293/

Video in article.

Before a rousing, packed audience, Johnson promised to usher in a new era of progressive causes. Calling it the "Soul of Chicago," Johnson said it will take everyone to achieve his big goals.



"I believe what makes us great is our people and not just the names that show up in history books, but the ones that show up in our schools, on the beat, at the worksite at the concert hall and of course in the boardrooms," Johnson said.

The first mayor from the city's West Side Austin community, Johnson injected humor into his speech while also elevating the plight of so many from his community.

"You can't stop someone with a payment plan from becoming mayor of the city of Chicago," he joked.

I applaud his speech without knowing much about him. Politics is often a game of service for the well off, not those who are struggling. I like how he referenced his neighborhood of Chicago and the reality of many underfunded people being on payment plans for one thing or another.

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Anyone follow this mayoral election or have thoughts on it?

[jerseygirl]

May 16, 2023 4:59:06 GMT -5 Opti said:

Anyone follow this mayoral election or have thoughts on it?

Yes will he diminish young black guys shot or killed in Chicago?

[djAdvocate]

May 16, 2023 9:16:13 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

May 16, 2023 4:59:06 GMT -5 Opti said:

Anyone follow this mayoral election or have thoughts on it?

Yes will he diminish young black guys shot or killed in Chicago?

the murder rate in Jackson, MS is 4x higher.  are you 4x as concerned about it?


mississippitoday.org/2022/01/26/authorities-reflect-on-abnormal-jackson-murder-rate/

[Opti]

That's so sad DJ. Any idea why Jackson is having such issues? I know parts of LA the state don't do that well either. 

[djAdvocate]

May 16, 2023 18:35:35 GMT -5 Opti said:

That's so sad DJ. Any idea why Jackson is having such issues? I know parts of LA the state don't do that well either. 

poverty, the availability of guns, and the average annual temperature are the main drivers of gun violence.  Jackson rates high in all three.

[jerseygirl]

May 16, 2023 18:30:09 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 16, 2023 9:16:13 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Yes will he diminish young black guys shot or killed in Chicago?

the murder rate in Jackson, MS is 4x higher.  are you 4x as concerned about it?


mississippitoday.org/2022/01/26/authorities-reflect-on-abnormal-jackson-murder-rate/

Didn’t know that very awful statistic. I grew up in Chicago and am appalled at the increasing violence
That’s a very snarky response to my post

[djAdvocate]

May 16, 2023 19:05:46 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

May 16, 2023 18:30:09 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

the murder rate in Jackson, MS is 4x higher.  are you 4x as concerned about it?


mississippitoday.org/2022/01/26/authorities-reflect-on-abnormal-jackson-murder-rate/

Didn’t know that very awful statistic. I grew up in Chicago and am appalled at the increasing violence
That’s a very snarky response to my post

wasn't intended that way.  i said it with the equanimity of one in deep thought, not to get under your skin- out of curiosity, not malice.

but i take it from your response, the answer is no.

the next question is: WHY?  i presume it is because people make a bigger deal out of Chicago violence than Jackson violence, even though Jackson violence is more likely to result in death.  this is not due to the failure of media, but rather to the success of one very particular strain of media.  it is unfortunate that anyone pays attention to it.

[Opti]

This was interesting-


www.macrotrends.net/cities/22956/chicago/population#:~:text=Chicago%20-%20Historical%20Population%20Data%20%20%20,%20%200.03%25%20%2070%20more%20rows%20

Looks like Chicago went from a bit more than 6 million in population when I was born to just under 9 million at present.
The estimated population for NJ in 2023 is 9.23 million. Interesting, eh?

[Tiny]

May 16, 2023 19:05:46 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

May 16, 2023 18:30:09 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

the murder rate in Jackson, MS is 4x higher.  are you 4x as concerned about it?


mississippitoday.org/2022/01/26/authorities-reflect-on-abnormal-jackson-murder-rate/

Didn’t know that very awful statistic. I grew up in Chicago and am appalled at the increasing violence
That’s a very snarky response to my post

Out of curiosity (no malice intended)  -  did your home address actually list Chicago as the City (or what neighborhood if you are comfortable with giving that)  or were you a Suburb dweller (would you be comfortable saying a direction - North, West, South of the City of Chicago)?  



    

[jerseygirl]

Lived in NW Chicago

Yes in Chicago itself
Enjoyed this beautiful city very much

[djAdvocate]

love Chicago.  but Obama is from there.  so, count on the right wing media to put it at the top of their "cities to be critical of" list.

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May 17, 2023 14:21:39 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

love Chicago.  but Obama is from there.  so, count on the right wing media to put it at the top of their "cities to be critical of" list.

Its also known as a Dem stronghold. I have never lived in the city, but I have gone in multiple times. I even took a college class in the city one summer. But I am from the NW suburbs. 

Even pre Obama it was a target and those who hate community organizers that are not white, probably have nits to pick with the current elected mayor. 

[Opti]

DJ, I think at one time me and my mom went into Chicago various times to get my cello worked on. 

[Tiny]

May 17, 2023 9:43:30 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Lived in NW Chicago

Yes in Chicago itself
Enjoyed this beautiful city very much

   I'm in a collar suburb (not Northwest of the City).   Pre pandemic  (from HS to the pandemic)  I spent a lot of time in various areas of Chicago (work, friends, social/cultural events) without actually living in Chicago.    My age and  the pandemic put a damper on the "lots of people around" stuff I used to do.     

[jerseygirl]

May 16, 2023 19:13:10 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 16, 2023 19:05:46 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

Didn’t know that very awful statistic. I grew up in Chicago and am appalled at the increasing violence
That’s a very snarky response to my post

wasn't intended that way.  i said it with the equanimity of one in deep thought, not to get under your skin- out of curiosity, not malice.

but i take it from your response, the answer is no.

the next question is: WHY?  i presume it is because people make a bigger deal out of Chicago violence than Jackson violence, even though Jackson violence is more likely to result in death.  this is not due to the failure of media, but rather to the success of one very particular strain of media.  it is unfortunate that anyone pays attention to it.

Really?? A deep thought? Nope you wanted to make a point, a political point and a pretty shallow thought
And yep I’m not 4x more concerned mostly because I know nothing about Jackson frankly don’t even know what state it’s in
And I have a connection to Chicago one of the US great cities so yes violence there does make an impact on me

[Tiny]

May 17, 2023 14:21:39 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

love Chicago.  but Obama is from there.  so, count on the right wing media to put it at the top of their "cities to be critical of" list.

Chicago has always been on the list of cities to be critical of.    

The issue is that there are millions of people in the Chicago land area who usually vote Blue  and then there's the rest of Illinois that has lots of people - but they are spread out across the State and they tend to vote Red.    

There's a long running  ill will between the rest of Illinois and the Chicago land area (a really big place with nearly 10 million people).    

After a drive down to St. Louis  years and years and years ago - stopping at "touristy" places along the way... I know why.   The Chicago land area has a lot more money (and maybe get more in State and Federal money) than the southern areas get.            


Don't get me wrong - there are plenty of really wealthy people outside the Chicagoland area.    I think there's a feeling that the taxes they pay are just feeding "Chicago" and not doing anything for them - so why should they pay taxes.       I may not be saying that the right way... it's like they are paying for other people to have more stuff than they have.       Don't know if they are right.     

Unfortunately, that has always been my view of Republican goals and political platforms -- going back to the 80's.    Basically a "if you can't pay for it yourself, you can't have it.  And we're  not sharing any of our 'nice' things with you".   "nice things" being roads,housing,fire, police,schools, etc.. anything that makes live nicer for EVERYONE.

[djAdvocate]

May 17, 2023 18:50:02 GMT -5 jerseygirl said:

May 16, 2023 19:13:10 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

wasn't intended that way.  i said it with the equanimity of one in deep thought, not to get under your skin- out of curiosity, not malice.

but i take it from your response, the answer is no.

the next question is: WHY?  i presume it is because people make a bigger deal out of Chicago violence than Jackson violence, even though Jackson violence is more likely to result in death.  this is not due to the failure of media, but rather to the success of one very particular strain of media.  it is unfortunate that anyone pays attention to it.

Really?? A deep thought? Nope you wanted to make a point, a political point and a pretty shallow thought
And yep I’m not 4x more concerned mostly because I know nothing about Jackson frankly don’t even know what state it’s in
And I have a connection to Chicago one of the US great cities so yes violence there does make an impact on me

no, i didn't.  honestly.  

listen, Jersey- i don't judge ANYONE here.  ok?  nobody.  i simply read posts and respond.  i am here for the discussion ONLY.  i really think you are getting me wrong.

i already conceded the rest of your remark in my reply.  you are FROM THERE.  that is why you are concerned.  i get it.  if this kind of thing were posted about where i am from, i would have the same reaction!

the rest of my reply was a more general remark about why people that are NOT FROM CHICAGO care more about Chicago than Jackson.  if you want to respond to that, it is cool with me, but i had already moved on from our discussion.

again, if you felt like i was picking on you, i wasn't.  i had no idea where you are from, and i could not have guessed it from your moniker.  i apologize for any injury that i may have caused but it was COMPLETELY unintended.

but again, i NEVER try to get under anyone's skin here.  it is counterproductive to discussion.  if you don't believe me, ask anyone on the board.

[djAdvocate]

PS- i am sure you thought you were engaging in "tit for tat" there by insulting me for being "shallow".  but when i said "deep thought" i meant that i was serene and contemplative when i made that remark.  i was not feeling hostile.  i was not "coming after you".  i don't know you, NJ, and you most certainly don't know me.  you can either pretend that you do, or accept what i say about my own personal feelings, which you can't possibly know.  your choice.

[djAdvocate]

for the record, i am a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment.  but you probably can't tell that by reading my posts.