Two Local WTF News Articles Today-One Deadly Tragic

[Tennesseer]

First one up: Did the dog owners ever witness any aggression by their two dogs? If yes, the parents should be charged with murder. No mention yet on the dog breeds. I believe the dogs attacked the family in their home.

Sheriff: Dogs attack family in Tennessee, 2 children die

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — Two young children died and their mother was hospitalized after two family dogs attacked them at their home in Tennessee, officials said.

The dogs attacked a 2-year-old girl, a 5-month-old boy and their mother Wednesday afternoon in the home located north of Memphis near Shelby Forest State Park, the Shelby County Sheriff's Office said in a tweet.

The children were pronounced dead at the scene and their mother was taken to a Memphis hospital in critical condition.

The investigation remains active. No further information was immediately released.

Sheriff: Dogs attack family in Tennessee, 2 children die

[Tennesseer]

Second one up:  the owner must have plenty of money to spend and replace if they can leave their expensive goods in their vehicle over night. $1.4K for a friggin' diaper bag?

Car burglar gets away with $1.4K Gucci diaper bag: MPD

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Memphis Police are looking for a burglar who got away with some expensive items during a Southeast Memphis car break-in last month.

Police say officers responded to a vehicle burglary in the 6600 block of Kirby Trace Cove on September 14 at 10:24 p.m.

Police said the victim saw a man entering their vehicle that was parked in their driveway.

The victim said the thief got away with several credit cards, a ring valued at $500, and a Gucci diaper bag valued at $1,400.

Investigators say the same suspect returned with another person three days later and attempted to break into the same vehicle but was unsuccessful.

The suspects fled northbound on Kirby Parkway in a dark gray 2013 Kia Sportage bearing TN tag 3R1-6T3. The vehicle was reported stolen hours prior.

Car burglar gets away with $1.4K Gucci diaper bag: MPD

[daisylu]

Oct 6, 2022 10:22:03 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Second one up:  the owner must have plenty of money to spend and replace if they can leave their expensive goods in their vehicle over night. $1.4K for a friggin' diaper bag?

Car burglar gets away with $1.4K Gucci diaper bag: MPD

MEMPHIS, Tenn. — Memphis Police are looking for a burglar who got away with some expensive items during a Southeast Memphis car break-in last month.

Police say officers responded to a vehicle burglary in the 6600 block of Kirby Trace Cove on September 14 at 10:24 p.m.

Police said the victim saw a man entering their vehicle that was parked in their driveway.

The victim said the thief got away with several credit cards, a ring valued at $500, and a Gucci diaper bag valued at $1,400.

Investigators say the same suspect returned with another person three days later and attempted to break into the same vehicle but was unsuccessful.

The suspects fled northbound on Kirby Parkway in a dark gray 2013 Kia Sportage bearing TN tag 3R1-6T3. The vehicle was reported stolen hours prior.

Car burglar gets away with $1.4K Gucci diaper bag: MPD

Stupid tax in full effect.

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Anyone that leaves pricey items in their car deserves to be robbed. It is just stupid. Even stupider when people leave their cars unlocked. Car door locks are not optional equipment. What is even worse is the idiots that leave their doors unlocked AND leave the keys in it.

Our area has had a rash of car burglaries and vehicle theft. They are apparently a crime of opportunity. Teen theft ring going around parking lots and neighborhoods trying car doors. Any that were unlocked they rifled through and any that had keys left in them were stolen.

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

The family with the dogs is just so very sad. 

[TheOtherMe]

Why would anyone buy a $1400 Gucci Diaper Bag?   

[Tiny]

The dog attack is very sad.    But fairly common.         

[dannylion]

Oct 6, 2022 13:17:51 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Why would anyone buy a $1400 Gucci Diaper Bag?   

If one is in the tax bracket that regularly buys Gucci, Prada, Hermes, etc., $1400 for a diaper bag is chump change.  If one is an ordinary mortal, $1400 for a diaper bag is stupid and pretentious.  The high-end bags that people with vast amounts of money buy usually cost much more than $1400.  Hermes bags (like the Birkin bag) are in the 30k range and go up from there (way up).  The rich are not like the rest of us.  

[billisonboard]

Oct 6, 2022 16:38:10 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Oct 6, 2022 13:17:51 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Why would anyone buy a $1400 Gucci Diaper Bag?   

If one is in the tax bracket that regularly buys Gucci, Prada, Hermes, etc., $1400 for a diaper bag is chump change.  If one is an ordinary mortal, $1400 for a diaper bag is stupid and pretentious.  The high-end bags that people with vast amounts of money buy usually cost much more than $1400.  Hermes bags (like the Birkin bag) are in the 30k range and go up from there (way up).  The rich are not like the rest of us.  

It isn't actually a diaper bag. It just looks like one for appearance sake. The nanny carries the diapers in a much cheaper bag.

[NoNamePerson]

Oct 6, 2022 13:17:51 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Why would anyone buy a $1400 Gucci Diaper Bag?   

To carry their pet Chihuahua around??

[busymom]

Oct 6, 2022 17:20:26 GMT -5 NoNamePerson said:

Oct 6, 2022 13:17:51 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Why would anyone buy a $1400 Gucci Diaper Bag?   

To carry their pet Chihuahua around??

   LOL!  When I was in my 20's, I worked a 2nd job to help us save up for a house.  The store I was at had a regular customer who carried a Yorkshire terrier in her bag.  The bag she bought was multi-colored black, tan & brown, so you couldn't really see the dog peeking out of one end unless you knew it was there.  

[Tennesseer]

Oct 6, 2022 10:18:24 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

First one up: Did the dog owners ever witness any aggression by their two dogs? If yes, the parents should be charged with murder. No mention yet on the dog breeds. I believe the dogs attacked the family in their home.

Sheriff: Dogs attack family in Tennessee, 2 children die

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — Two young children died and their mother was hospitalized after two family dogs attacked them at their home in Tennessee, officials said.

The dogs attacked a 2-year-old girl, a 5-month-old boy and their mother Wednesday afternoon in the home located north of Memphis near Shelby Forest State Park, the Shelby County Sheriff's Office said in a tweet.

The children were pronounced dead at the scene and their mother was taken to a Memphis hospital in critical condition.

The investigation remains active. No further information was immediately released.

Sheriff: Dogs attack family in Tennessee, 2 children die

The dogs were identified as put bulls. The dogs have also been euthanized.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Oct 6, 2022 13:17:51 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Why would anyone buy a $1400 Gucci Diaper Bag?   

Many times, they’re a gift.  A friend of mine was given a Louis Vuitton cat carrier by his godparents as a joke.  God knows how much it cost, but he uses it as apparently it is a well designed cat carrier too.  

[raeoflyte]

I can't come up with anything to say about the dog incident that doesn't sound like victim blaming.

But I absolutely blame what we expect and accept as a society around dog behavior. Dogs are not children. They do not need or even want to do half the things we do "for socializing" with them. Dogs growling, barking, or lunging is not cute or acceptable in any situation outside of an actual need for self defense. That is a dog who needs significant training and controlled access to the world. Regardless of why they are like that. Any dog can bite at any time which is why my kids didn't have unsupervised access to our dogs (and vice versa) until they were old enough to understand animal body language and I felt they were capable of making good choices.

[teen persuasion]

Oct 6, 2022 11:07:26 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

Anyone that leaves pricey items in their car deserves to be robbed. It is just stupid. Even stupider when people leave their cars unlocked. Car door locks are not optional equipment. What is even worse is the idiots that leave their doors unlocked AND leave the keys in it.

Our area has had a rash of car burglaries and vehicle theft. They are apparently a crime of opportunity. Teen theft ring going around parking lots and neighborhoods trying car doors. Any that were unlocked they rifled through and any that had keys left in them were stolen.

I'm always amazed when I realize patrons come in the library and leave their cars running with AC on because their dog is in there. 

[daisylu]

Oct 7, 2022 13:56:54 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

Oct 6, 2022 11:07:26 GMT -5 Cheesy FL-Vol said:

Anyone that leaves pricey items in their car deserves to be robbed. It is just stupid. Even stupider when people leave their cars unlocked. Car door locks are not optional equipment. What is even worse is the idiots that leave their doors unlocked AND leave the keys in it.

Our area has had a rash of car burglaries and vehicle theft. They are apparently a crime of opportunity. Teen theft ring going around parking lots and neighborhoods trying car doors. Any that were unlocked they rifled through and any that had keys left in them were stolen.

I'm always amazed when I realize patrons come in the library and leave their cars running with AC on because their dog is in there. 

I can leave my car running and take my key. Unless my key is inserted, the car will not shift from Park.

[raeoflyte]

I accidentally left my car running with keys in the ignition and doors unlocked when we went to adopt the puppy. I really, really wanted to get her before someone else did. And I was really, really lucky that nothing happened.

[minnesotapaintlady]

Oct 7, 2022 14:24:54 GMT -5 daisylu said:

Oct 7, 2022 13:56:54 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

I'm always amazed when I realize patrons come in the library and leave their cars running with AC on because their dog is in there. 

I can leave my car running and take my key. Unless my key is inserted, the car will not shift from Park.

Same.  Well.  I can take my FOB and have the doors locked and the car running.  Someone could still break in and take the car, they just couldn't start it again after they shut it off.

[haapai]

Oct 7, 2022 10:34:53 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

I can't come up with anything to say about the dog incident that doesn't sound like victim blaming.

But I absolutely blame what we expect and accept as a society around dog behavior. Dogs are not children. They do not need or even want to do half the things we do "for socializing" with them. Dogs growling, barking, or lunging is not cute or acceptable in any situation outside of an actual need for self defense. That is a dog who needs significant training and controlled access to the world. Regardless of why they are like that. Any dog can bite at any time which is why my kids didn't have unsupervised access to our dogs (and vice versa) until they were old enough to understand animal body language and I felt they were capable of making good choices.

Same here.  I'm really quite appalled by what my fingers want to type and pleasantly surprised that I can stop myself from typing that or that or that.

Here's the bad news, I am 53 and this kind of restraint is a recent development.  I'm pretty sure that I did not have this restraint 3 years ago.  As recently as three years ago, I would have found some way to blame the victims/convince myself that this could never happen to me or any one that I knew/ and make an a** out of myself in the process. 

[TheOtherMe]

Oct 7, 2022 10:17:53 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Oct 6, 2022 13:17:51 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Why would anyone buy a $1400 Gucci Diaper Bag?   

Many times, they’re a gift.  A friend of mine was given a Louis Vuitton cat carrier by his godparents as a joke.  God knows how much it cost, but he uses it as apparently it is a well designed cat carrier too.  

We travel in totally different circles.  I know no one who has the kind of money to give someone a $1400 gift period, let alone as a joke.

[happyhoix]

Oct 6, 2022 16:38:10 GMT -5 dannylion said:

Oct 6, 2022 13:17:51 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Why would anyone buy a $1400 Gucci Diaper Bag?   

If one is in the tax bracket that regularly buys Gucci, Prada, Hermes, etc., $1400 for a diaper bag is chump change.  If one is an ordinary mortal, $1400 for a diaper bag is stupid and pretentious.  The high-end bags that people with vast amounts of money buy usually cost much more than $1400.  Hermes bags (like the Birkin bag) are in the 30k range and go up from there (way up).  The rich are not like the rest of us.  

I’ve heard about those extremely expensive bags and how people sometimes have to get on a waiting list for many months before they can buy one. 

I’d like to just touch one and look inside of it just to see what makes it so special. I’ve had many handbags, some less than 100 bucks, some several hundred bucks, but they all pretty much work the same way. What would make one worth 30K? That’s literally a car. 

I can’t go in those stores, though - I’m scared of the sales people and those cold glares they’d shoot my way if I attempted to cross the threshold of a Gucci store.  Guess I’ll never know!

[Spellbound454]

I suppose high end Gucci et al is an economy in itself....... there is industry.. and people make a living.

Not something I will ever have to worry about.

Always think it's a bit like borrowed plumes...... you aren't getting something based on its quality, you are buying into a label and an expensive advertising campaign.

Fine if that's what you want, but I've got plumes of my own

[saveinla]

Oct 8, 2022 18:22:07 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Oct 6, 2022 16:38:10 GMT -5 dannylion said:

If one is in the tax bracket that regularly buys Gucci, Prada, Hermes, etc., $1400 for a diaper bag is chump change.  If one is an ordinary mortal, $1400 for a diaper bag is stupid and pretentious.  The high-end bags that people with vast amounts of money buy usually cost much more than $1400.  Hermes bags (like the Birkin bag) are in the 30k range and go up from there (way up).  The rich are not like the rest of us.  

I’ve heard about those extremely expensive bags and how people sometimes have to get on a waiting list for many months before they can buy one. 

I’d like to just touch one and look inside of it just to see what makes it so special. I’ve had many handbags, some less than 100 bucks, some several hundred bucks, but they all pretty much work the same way. What would make one worth 30K? That’s literally a car. 

I can’t go in those stores, though - I’m scared of the sales people and those cold glares they’d shoot my way if I attempted to cross the threshold of a Gucci store.  Guess I’ll never know!

Some people are like that, but not all. We go to the high end stores sometimes when we show people around when they come to visit and they have been really nice recently.

I really liked a Gucci bag when we visited the store in August and asked the price - just to check - it was 38K but was made from some special leather. My DH and I just started laughing so hard, that we had to sit down for a while.

When I had gone to Italy in 1991, I bought a Gucci hand tooled leather bag for my mom - at that time it was 100$ and a lot of money - but I was getting paid for my vacation also, so splurged. I wish I had it now.
 

[dannylion]

Oct 8, 2022 18:22:07 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Oct 6, 2022 16:38:10 GMT -5 dannylion said:

If one is in the tax bracket that regularly buys Gucci, Prada, Hermes, etc., $1400 for a diaper bag is chump change.  If one is an ordinary mortal, $1400 for a diaper bag is stupid and pretentious.  The high-end bags that people with vast amounts of money buy usually cost much more than $1400.  Hermes bags (like the Birkin bag) are in the 30k range and go up from there (way up).  The rich are not like the rest of us.  

I’ve heard about those extremely expensive bags and how people sometimes have to get on a waiting list for many months before they can buy one. 

I’d like to just touch one and look inside of it just to see what makes it so special. I’ve had many handbags, some less than 100 bucks, some several hundred bucks, but they all pretty much work the same way. What would make one worth 30K? That’s literally a car. 

I can’t go in those stores, though - I’m scared of the sales people and those cold glares they’d shoot my way if I attempted to cross the threshold of a Gucci store.  Guess I’ll never know!

I once visited a Saks Fifth Avenue outlet store where I discovered a Prada bag on a shelf that indicated the items were discounted 75% from regular retail.  It was a lovely purple shade, nice soft leather, very pretty and decent quality, but it didn't look like a super high-end handbag.  The discounted price was nearly $2,000.  I didn't buy it.  Since it was a Saks Fifth Avenue outlet, I have to assume it was a real Prada bag, not a knockoff, but I was surprised that it was not as well made as I would have expected.  I wasn't impressed.  I don't care for Louis Vuitton bags at all and Gucci bags are pretty but not my style.  I do like the bags from the company that made Queen Elizabeth's handbags:  Launer Handbags .  They appear to be of exceptional quality and beautifully made.  They seem to be generally in the $2,000- 3,000 range.  Still more than I want to pay for a bag but less ridiculous than the 30k-plus the Birkin bags go for.  

[TheOtherMe]

I once tried on a Stella McCartney dress in London just to see what high end clothes feel like.

It didn't feel any different than any other dress I have tried on and, no, I did not buy it.  I never considered buying it. I just wanted to try it on.

[Rukh O'Rorke]

Oct 7, 2022 10:34:53 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

I can't come up with anything to say about the dog incident that doesn't sound like victim blaming.

But I absolutely blame what we expect and accept as a society around dog behavior. Dogs are not children. They do not need or even want to do half the things we do "for socializing" with them. Dogs growling, barking, or lunging is not cute or acceptable in any situation outside of an actual need for self defense. That is a dog who needs significant training and controlled access to the world. Regardless of why they are like that. Any dog can bite at any time which is why my kids didn't have unsupervised access to our dogs (and vice versa) until they were old enough to understand animal body language and I felt they were capable of making good choices.

its so heartbreaking. I could not go on.

I read the family had the dogs 8 years, and no evidence of aggression.

I do know someone whose dog turned on them, over 200 stitches in their face. Its hard to beleive when they were raised from puppies, but it does happen. That case was also similar type of dog.

[Pink Cashmere]

My boss asked me if I’d heard about the dog story while we were in New Orleans. This was after he’d asked me about my dogs. I didn’t even look the story up to try to see the details, because it made me so sad that that happened.

I’ve never believed in leaving young children around any dog unsupervised. Not even small dogs. I’m not saying that’s what happened in that story. The link in the OP is the only news story I read about it.

And I agree with what Rae said. Some dogs show human aggression in ways that their owners do not recognize or acknowledge as aggression. Some people get dogs and never try to educate themselves on dogs, dog behavior and training them, so they don’t even recognize or ignore the signs of potential issues. Then something bad happens, and they think it just happened out of the blue. Which sometimes, that may be true, but not always.

I’m not an expert on dogs, but I do know quite a bit about them because I’ve always read a lot and talked to people who knew more than I do. I felt like that was my responsibility if I wanted to have dogs. I still read a lot since I live with dogs again.

Mister’s parents have a small terrier of some kind. She is aggressive. She growls and snaps at their guests and actually bit Mister on his lip a few years ago when he was laying across his Mom’s bed talking to her, and the dog was on the bed too. His parents felt bad when the dog bit Mister, but they’ve never done anything about her aggression before or after she bit him. I guess they think it’s not that big of a deal because she’s small.

I don’t know what happened that those dogs attacked their family, but whatever happened and why, I really hate that happened to those poor babies and their Mom.