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Post by tallguy on Apr 24, 2024 21:26:49 GMT -5
I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? Slept through 20 years of education, more likely. And was pretty lazy even before his nap, as I recall.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 24, 2024 21:27:47 GMT -5
Hopefully, ripvanwinkle reads the whole article. Especially the last paragraph which is at the bottom of the linked article. Can Trump get a fair trial?
Donald Trump says he can't get a fair trial in heavily Democratic Manhattan as his hush money case starts Former President Donald Trump's first criminal trial got underway Monday with opening arguments and the first witness testimony in a Manhattan courtroom. Prosecutors said that shortly before the 2016 election Trump ordered "hush money" payments to a porn star who claimed she had an affair with him years earlier, then tried to cover up the payments by falsifying business records. As he arrived at the trial, which Politico described as "indisputably historic," Trump said the case was "election interference" intended to derail his 2024 bid to win back the White House from President Joe Biden. Jury selection got off to a bumpy start last week, as dozens in the first batch of 96 potential jurors were weeded out after saying they couldn't be fair to the twice-impeached former president. One seated juror was replaced over old anti-Trump social media posts. Judge Juan Merchan admonished Trump for making audible comments about a prospective juror, warning that he would not have "jurors intimidated in this courtroom." By the end of the week, though, Merchan declared, "We have our jury," and swore in 12 jurors and six alternates who vowed to be "fair and impartial." Trump has pleaded not guilty in what The New York Times noted was the "first criminal trial of an American president." He has repeatedly denied having sex with the adult-film actress, Stormy Daniels. He is accused of telling his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, to pay Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet so the scandal wouldn't damage his 2016 presidential campaign. Once in office, prosecutors say, Trump reimbursed Cohen in 12 installments but covered up the scheme by describing the checks to his then-lawyer as payments for ongoing legal services. Trump has repeatedly blasted District Attorney Alvin Bragg's case as a political "witch hunt." He also has accused Merchan of bias, and complained he can't get a fair trial in heavily Democratic New York City, arguing that any jury picked there would be biased against him. Will Trump's trial be fair? Rest of article (including the last paragraph of it) here : Can Trump get a fair trial?I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
Wouldn’t matter what venue or what judge. Trump would still spend his early morning hours bitching about it, regardless. It’s not the venue and not the judge, it’s the fact that he’s being held accountable for his actions like any other dumb fuck that’s making him furious. He’s The Donald. People call him ‘sir.’ No one ever charged him criminally before, and it shouldn’t be happening now.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 24, 2024 21:33:52 GMT -5
I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
Wouldn’t matter what venue or what judge. Trump would still spend his early morning hours bitching about it, regardless. It’s not the venue and not the judge, it’s the fact that he’s being held accountable for his actions like any other dumb fuck that’s making him furious. He’s The Donald. People call him ‘sir.’ No one ever charged him criminally before, and it shouldn’t be happening now. You should probably make it more clear for some readers that the bolded is Donald's opinion, not yours....
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 24, 2024 21:34:44 GMT -5
I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
Wouldn’t matter what venue or what judge. Trump would still spend his early morning hours bitching about it, regardless. It’s not the venue and not the judge, it’s the fact that he’s being held accountable for his actions like any other dumb fuck that’s making him furious. He’s The Donald. People call him ‘sir.’ No one ever charged him criminally before, and it shouldn’t be happening now. Key word: Accountable. How dare the world hold donald trump accountable. It's about time. And trump hates it. Too friggin' bad.
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Post by laterbloomer on Apr 24, 2024 22:08:49 GMT -5
Are you pretending you don't know he's putting out hits on the judge, jury and prosecutors? i hate to do this, because it seems like i am siding with MAGA here, but i feel compelled to respond. MAGA has been behaving in a certain way for nearly a decade now. they treat outsiders with extreme disrespect that comes off as hostile. and this has just become the NORM for them. so, when Trump does it, they (and i need to qualify "they", which i will do, below) don't see it as weird, threatening, unusual, or possibly illegal. it is as normal as breathing to them. when i say "they", however, i mean the people that are just in it for the fun, the humor, or the "fuck-you-ee-ness" of being MAGA. they would never march on the capital, or beat up a liberal, or do anything stupid to ruin their quiet little MAGA lives. unfortunately, there is a subset of MAGA which is not "they". that subset is absolutely down with all of the above behaviour. they are the folks that stormed the capital. they are the guy who bashed in Peolsi's head. they are the guys and gals planning thwarted attacks. and, unfortunately, "they" don't seem to understand that they exist, or even identify with them. "they" think that they are ANTIFA or something. so when Trump says things like he does, "they" don't understand how it is a threat, because "they" talk that way to their family, friends, coworkers, and other MAGA. it seems fine to them, even though it is not. Even "they" have to see the difference between their mouthing off and those that stormed the Capital by now. They might not have the balls to do it themselves but they wish they did. "They" know what's going on.
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Post by laterbloomer on Apr 24, 2024 22:15:40 GMT -5
Are you pretending you don't know he's putting out hits on the judge, jury and prosecutors? LOL. I want some what you've been smoking. Show me the proof he has put out death hits on the judge, jury and prosecutors. You've been watching MSDNC TV news to much. OK so you are pretending. Well not really that much, you're pulling out the old "prove it" defense knowing that you will just dismiss the evidence of the results of his actions. I'm not going to bother arguing with you, I know when I'm being trolled.
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Apr 24, 2024 23:23:43 GMT -5
I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 24, 2024 23:37:55 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
Only 12 people are on the jury with 6 alternates. Over two hundred were rejected as those 18 people were selected through a process to eliminate those it was determined could not be impartial. The overall voting percentages are irrelevant.
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Post by Opti on Apr 24, 2024 23:51:34 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
You choose to forget certain things like the number of nonvoters generally is greater than the number of voters in most areas of the country. Manhattan is no different. This is from Google on the 2020 election. Manhattan: In Manhattan, there were approximately 260,000 votes cast for president. This accounted for about 21% of eligible voters in the borough
Second, jury selection is not representative of the general public in most trials. So yes it is possible for him to get a fair trial in NYC.
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Post by dondubble on Apr 25, 2024 0:09:35 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
You are defending a heinous scumbag. Congrats on your moral ambiguity.
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Post by NastyWoman on Apr 25, 2024 0:14:53 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
Are you seriously claiming that only repubs are able to follow the law? Maybe that is how you would judge but don't put your political blindness and indifference to truth and wrong doing on others.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 25, 2024 5:15:59 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
So you agree that an all white jury is incapable of fairly deciding a case against a black defendant? Careful, you are starting to sound like a “liberal” Crimes are tried in the jurisdiction they are committed. That has always been the case. Sucks for Trump I guess. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time
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Post by teen persuasion on Apr 25, 2024 7:08:08 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
This isn't a "vote" on his politics, it's a "vote" on his criminality. Did he commit a crime, or not? Hopefully the chosen jurors were selected precisely for their ability to decide based on the evidence, not their partisanship.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Apr 25, 2024 7:41:28 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
Trump's attorneys got to select from the jurors as well. Remember he only needs ONE to think he's innocent. The prosecution needs to convince all 12.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 25, 2024 7:59:15 GMT -5
Wanted to specifically note these two posts: I thought a ... Just wondering It was nice to see evidence of research and a link as opposed to the usual nothing found in the first qouted post. Okay, what was presented was easily countered, but at least it was an attempt.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 25, 2024 9:23:13 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
Gee, Rip - you need to add Esquire after your user name. Like ripvanwinkleEsquire. As the plan by trump, Michael Cohen and David Pecker to pay off Stormy Daniels and illegally falsify documents occurred in Trump Tower, NYC, it is quite appropriate to hold trump's trial in NYC with NYC jurors. Tracing the Trail of Hush-Money Deals That Led to Trump’s ProsecutionDonald J. Trump and two confidants hatched a plan in August 2015 to boost his upstart presidential campaign, prosecutors say. They carried it out, and Mr. Trump won the election. Nearly nine years later, Mr. Trump will face the same men, Michael Cohen and David Pecker. But unlike at that long-ago meeting, he won’t be seated at the desk in his 26th-floor Trump Tower office: He will be at the defendant’s table in a Lower Manhattan courtroom. Tracing the Trail of Hush-Money Deals That Led to Trump’s Prosecution
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Post by bean29 on Apr 25, 2024 9:26:11 GMT -5
Hopefully, ripvanwinkle reads the whole article. Especially the last paragraph which is at the bottom of the linked article. Can Trump get a fair trial?
Donald Trump says he can't get a fair trial in heavily Democratic Manhattan as his hush money case starts Former President Donald Trump's first criminal trial got underway Monday with opening arguments and the first witness testimony in a Manhattan courtroom. Prosecutors said that shortly before the 2016 election Trump ordered "hush money" payments to a porn star who claimed she had an affair with him years earlier, then tried to cover up the payments by falsifying business records. As he arrived at the trial, which Politico described as "indisputably historic," Trump said the case was "election interference" intended to derail his 2024 bid to win back the White House from President Joe Biden. Jury selection got off to a bumpy start last week, as dozens in the first batch of 96 potential jurors were weeded out after saying they couldn't be fair to the twice-impeached former president. One seated juror was replaced over old anti-Trump social media posts. Judge Juan Merchan admonished Trump for making audible comments about a prospective juror, warning that he would not have "jurors intimidated in this courtroom." By the end of the week, though, Merchan declared, "We have our jury," and swore in 12 jurors and six alternates who vowed to be "fair and impartial." Trump has pleaded not guilty in what The New York Times noted was the "first criminal trial of an American president." He has repeatedly denied having sex with the adult-film actress, Stormy Daniels. He is accused of telling his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, to pay Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet so the scandal wouldn't damage his 2016 presidential campaign. Once in office, prosecutors say, Trump reimbursed Cohen in 12 installments but covered up the scheme by describing the checks to his then-lawyer as payments for ongoing legal services. Trump has repeatedly blasted District Attorney Alvin Bragg's case as a political "witch hunt." He also has accused Merchan of bias, and complained he can't get a fair trial in heavily Democratic New York City, arguing that any jury picked there would be biased against him. Will Trump's trial be fair? Rest of article (including the last paragraph of it) here : Can Trump get a fair trial?I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
First of all "The Rule of Law" an Ethics (if people have any anymore) should guarantee that no matter what political party someone belongs to, they will get a fair trial. It is mostly since Trump took office that all adherence to the rule of law and ethics went out the window for Republicans (Mitch started down this path before trump, so it has been awhile for some in the Republican party). Also, just because someone donated to a campaign fund does not mean they are blindly loyal to them. My DH has friends that are contractors, and they typically Donate to candidates from Both parties who are running against each other so as to be on "record" as having been a supporter of the winning candidate.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 25, 2024 10:53:26 GMT -5
As usual, facts go right over your head. Were you home schooled by chance? The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
He only needs 8.333% of the jury to believe he is not guilty, and 14% voted for him - so statistically he is in fine shape.
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Hopefully, ripvanwinkle reads the whole article. Especially the last paragraph which is at the bottom of the linked article. Can Trump get a fair trial?
Donald Trump says he can't get a fair trial in heavily Democratic Manhattan as his hush money case starts Former President Donald Trump's first criminal trial got underway Monday with opening arguments and the first witness testimony in a Manhattan courtroom. Prosecutors said that shortly before the 2016 election Trump ordered "hush money" payments to a porn star who claimed she had an affair with him years earlier, then tried to cover up the payments by falsifying business records. As he arrived at the trial, which Politico described as "indisputably historic," Trump said the case was "election interference" intended to derail his 2024 bid to win back the White House from President Joe Biden. Jury selection got off to a bumpy start last week, as dozens in the first batch of 96 potential jurors were weeded out after saying they couldn't be fair to the twice-impeached former president. One seated juror was replaced over old anti-Trump social media posts. Judge Juan Merchan admonished Trump for making audible comments about a prospective juror, warning that he would not have "jurors intimidated in this courtroom." By the end of the week, though, Merchan declared, "We have our jury," and swore in 12 jurors and six alternates who vowed to be "fair and impartial." Trump has pleaded not guilty in what The New York Times noted was the "first criminal trial of an American president." He has repeatedly denied having sex with the adult-film actress, Stormy Daniels. He is accused of telling his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, to pay Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet so the scandal wouldn't damage his 2016 presidential campaign. Once in office, prosecutors say, Trump reimbursed Cohen in 12 installments but covered up the scheme by describing the checks to his then-lawyer as payments for ongoing legal services. Trump has repeatedly blasted District Attorney Alvin Bragg's case as a political "witch hunt." He also has accused Merchan of bias, and complained he can't get a fair trial in heavily Democratic New York City, arguing that any jury picked there would be biased against him. Will Trump's trial be fair? Rest of article (including the last paragraph of it) here : Can Trump get a fair trial?I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
If you are so concerned about the political contribution, take a look at this: Maybe Merchan is just smart, and an intelligent person....
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Post by moon/Laura on Apr 25, 2024 11:54:15 GMT -5
I read the article and the last paragraph but it didn't change my mind and I found this paragraph the most telling. "It's wishful thinking to expect Trump to "get a trial most people will accept as fair," said Henry Olsen in The Telegraph. Manhattan is "one of the most Democratic and liberal counties in the country," so the jury pool was polluted. Bragg has made "repeated statements" making it clear he was out to get Trump any way he could. And Merchan refused to recuse himself even though he "donated to Biden's 2020 campaign and his daughter is a Democratic political consultant." No wonder "Trump supporters view this prosecution as grounded in politics, not law."
This trial should have been moved to another venue. Another Judge.
If you are so concerned about the political contribution, take a look at this: Maybe Merchan is just smart, and an intelligent person.... Do as he says, not as he does??
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Post by tallguy on Apr 25, 2024 12:00:02 GMT -5
If you are so concerned about the political contribution, take a look at this: Maybe Merchan is just smart, and an intelligent person.... Do as he says, not as he does?? No, I'd say it's more, "Do what benefits me. F**k everybody else, including yourself."
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 25, 2024 13:36:29 GMT -5
There are certain people that when I read quotes by them, my head hears it in their voice. Andy Rooney, Paul Harvey and Trump are my top 3. One of those people gives me the heebee jeebees.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 25, 2024 14:03:39 GMT -5
What's wrong with Andy Rooney? Oh, wait. That's probably not the one, is it?
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 25, 2024 15:11:16 GMT -5
i am not sure it works that way. it doesn't need to be decided before the election. the trial needs to start before the election. that will put all of this madness on display at the most critical part of the cycle. i actually think that is LIKELY to happen. I believe the judge gave them 9 months to prepare, and the clock didn’t start until after the Supreme Court either heard or decides the case - I’m not sure which. But 9 months from now is past the election, and even past the inauguration. I found this: With 81 days of pretrial preparation left in the federal case, a May decision by SCOTUS means this trial could start in August and be completed prior to the election. www.cnn.com/2024/04/25/opinions/trump-supreme-court-immunity-claim-new-york-eisen/index.html
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 25, 2024 16:00:49 GMT -5
New Drinking Game! Take a shot every time he says “Witch Hunt”!
Sign up for AA before starting game, you will need it.
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ripvanwinkle
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All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing - Edmund Burke 1729 -1797
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Post by ripvanwinkle on Apr 25, 2024 21:26:04 GMT -5
The political climate in Manhattan, NY is very liberal. New York County, NY is very liberal. In New York County, NY 86.4% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 12.2% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.4% voted Independent.
In the last Presidential election, New York (Manhattan) county remained overwhelmingly Democratic, 86.4% to 12.2%.
New York (Manhattan) county voted Democratic in every Presidential election since 2000.
And you say he will get a fair trial??
Trump's attorneys got to select from the jurors as well. Remember he only needs ONE to think he's innocent. The prosecution needs to convince all 12. One can only hope and pray the defense does a great job and sways at least 1 juror.
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Tennesseer
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 25, 2024 21:35:08 GMT -5
Trump's attorneys got to select from the jurors as well. Remember he only needs ONE to think he's innocent. The prosecution needs to convince all 12. One can only hope and pray the defense does a great job and sways at least 1 juror. In this current trump trial he has thirty-four felony charges. All it takes is trump to be found guilty of one charge and he will be a convicted felon. Just one.
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