Amy Coney Barrett confirmation hearing

[chiver78]

I'm surprised there isn't already a thread on this. feel free to discuss here. 

I'll start - I   Sheldon Whitehouse with his opening statements. he is not holding anything back. 

[TheHaitian]

Here is my boo basically saying exactly how I feel when she said in her speech she plan on following the letter of the law how it was written...

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

If we are going to be strict constitutionalists they Ms. Barret should not be up for nomination at all.  She should be in the home where she belongs.   After all only land owning gentry over the age of 25 were allowed to have any say in politics when the constitution was written.

Funny how people forget that.

[djAdvocate]

she is not America's choice.

[swamp]

What if Judge Barrett was a Muslim instead of a Catholic? 

[flan327]

Oct 13, 2020 10:40:59 GMT -5 swamp said:

What if Judge Barrett was a Muslim instead of a Catholic? 

I don't understand

[swamp]

Oct 13, 2020 10:59:33 GMT -5 flan327 said:

Oct 13, 2020 10:40:59 GMT -5 swamp said:

What if Judge Barrett was a Muslim instead of a Catholic? 

I don't understand

imagine the outcry if she belonged to a strict muslim sect that required women to be subservient to men, she taught at a madrassa, and chose the koran as th guiding principle in her life 

[andi9899]

Oct 13, 2020 11:18:42 GMT -5 swamp said:

Oct 13, 2020 10:59:33 GMT -5 flan327 said:

I don't understand

imagine the outcry if she belonged to a strict muslim sect that required women to be subservient to men, she taught at a madrassa, and chose the koran as th guiding principle in her life 

She would never have even been considered for there to be an outcry.

[dondub]

Oct 13, 2020 11:18:42 GMT -5 swamp said:

Oct 13, 2020 10:59:33 GMT -5 flan327 said:

I don't understand

imagine the outcry if she belonged to a strict muslim sect that required women to be subservient to men, she taught at a madrassa, and chose the koran as th guiding principle in her life 

She was raised in a People of Praise community and still belongs to one. Men are ‘heads’ and until recently women were ‘handmaids’.
Hmmmmmm.

[billisonboard]

Really, Sen. Cruz? This is what you asked Judge Barrett

After speaking for over 20 minutes, ...
1. How long have you played the piano?
2. Do the kids do piano lessons as well?
3. You and your husband have seven kids. How did you manage with the distance learning? What was that like in the Barrett household?
4. What advice would you give little girls?

[Tennesseer]

Eating up his minutes? Signaling to the Democrats she is going to be voted in no matter what they ask her?

[billisonboard]

Oct 13, 2020 21:10:31 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Eating up his minutes? Signaling to the Democrats she is going to be voted in no matter what they ask her?

Would the same/similar questions be asked of a man?

[Tennesseer]

Oct 13, 2020 21:24:02 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 13, 2020 21:10:31 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Eating up his minutes? Signaling to the Democrats she is going to be voted in no matter what they ask her?

Would the same/similar questions be asked of a man?

This is not a normal hearing let alone nomination under any circumstances.

As for your question, no.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Oct 13, 2020 21:24:02 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Oct 13, 2020 21:10:31 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Eating up his minutes? Signaling to the Democrats she is going to be voted in no matter what they ask her?

Would the same/similar questions be asked of a man?

Nope.  It's sexist.

Also think it's strategy on some level on their part even if it's sexist strategy.  They are trying to paint her as a wholesome good white woman the type you WANT on the Supreme Court not like those uppity Ruth Ginseburg's of the world.  

[justme]

So I'm not watching so I've only seen news clips and headlines. And my impression on that is this woman either lives under a rock or is outright lying.

She says she had no idea trump promised to stack the court to get aca overturned and maybe even roe, yet found herself appointed as a judge not long after her published criticism of a sc aca ruling.

She also claims to have no idea that calling LGBTQ a lifestyle is offensive. Which has been widely known for years and years.

[andi9899]

She's lying and refusing to give straight answers to questions. She straight up said she will not be answering any hypothetical questions. Um, this is basically a job interview. You answer hypotheticals in an interview.

[djAdvocate]

the correct reply by the Senate would be:

"if you refuse to answer questions, then we can't confirm you"

otherwise, this crap will go on forever.

[chiver78]

exactly, dj. this is giving me a headache today, starting with Graham lauding her deep faith to start. as swamp said earlier - would he be saying the same if she were a Muslim? 

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Yesterday, we had no power so couldn’t watch.  That was probably better for my blood pressure.

[dondub]

This cake is baked so I’m ignoring the entire show.

[grumpyhermit]

Oct 14, 2020 11:35:27 GMT -5 dondub said:

This cake is baked so I’m ignoring the entire show.

This is where I'm at. I have caught a few clips here and there and all it does is raise my blood pressure.

They are going to confirm her. It doesn't matter what she says, its going to happen. Why watch this car wreck play out in real time?

[andi9899]

Oct 14, 2020 11:13:03 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Yesterday, we had no power so couldn’t watch.  That was probably better for my blood pressure.

I listened to about a half hour and then said to hell with it and turned it off.

[Deleted]

I would advise the Dems to add two justices next year, it would be a proportional response.

However I think they will lay down and take this like they always have and keep playing “Mother May I” with the GOP and continue to bitch about it.

[oped]

4. There are now 13 circuit appellate courts.

[oped]

And it shouldn’t be proportional anyway, it should be punitive. Fuck norms... get fucked.

[Deleted]

Oct 14, 2020 17:34:08 GMT -5 oped said:

And it shouldn’t be proportional anyway, it should be punitive. Fuck norms... get fucked.

I think that’s overreaching and would cost them with Independent voters at the ballot box in 22. Two can be explained to independents and show Dems have a spine after getting walked all over with Garland and Barrett.

[oped]

Nope. 65-78% of the public want legal abortion, the ACA, Gun Control, THIS appointment to wait ... you undrrestimate the rage.

And no republic survives an extremist minority court.

Correction. Separation. Or watch the Republic burn.

[Deleted]

Oct 14, 2020 18:05:14 GMT -5 oped said:

Nope. 65-78% of the public want legal abortion, the ACA, Gun Control, THIS appointment to wait ... you undrrestimate the rage.

And no republic survives an extremist minority court.

Correction. Separation. Or watch the Republic burn.

We will see, if even a whiff of that rage existed in 16 Trump would not be President because a lot more Bernie and Stein supporters would have voted Clinton and gotten her elected. Frankly the left did this to themselves in that election.

[djAdvocate]

Oct 14, 2020 18:19:06 GMT -5 @aj said:

Oct 14, 2020 18:05:14 GMT -5 oped said:

Nope. 65-78% of the public want legal abortion, the ACA, Gun Control, THIS appointment to wait ... you undrrestimate the rage.

And no republic survives an extremist minority court.

Correction. Separation. Or watch the Republic burn.

We will see, if even a whiff of that rage existed in 16 Trump would not be President because a lot more Bernie and Stein supporters would have voted Clinton and gotten her elected. Frankly the left did this to themselves in that election.

a whiff of the rage DID exist- in Trump's rabid base.

in 2016, Trump could legitimately run WITH the rage.  and WIN.

this year, he has to run against it.

he probably won't fare so well. 

[justme]

Oct 14, 2020 17:17:29 GMT -5 @aj said:

I would advise the Dems to add two justices next year, it would be a proportional response.

However I think they will lay down and take this like they always have and keep playing “Mother May I” with the GOP and continue to bitch about it.

I dunno - I think a lot of them still remember how trying to compromise back when Obama had control of anything bit them in the ass. They were still labeled by the GOP as pushing through radical ideas even though they did a lot less then they could have with the control. 

Yes, doing that will keep the divide, but I don't think the GOP will be ready to play ball even if they get their asses handed to them. They need that and a healthy dose of their own medicine to then maybe realize that it's best if both sides always work together.