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Post by laterbloomer on Oct 2, 2020 13:55:11 GMT -5
That is because we elected a Reality TV Star, so everything is about ratings for him.So no one puts It beyond him To pull something like that to get the ratings he wants, Change the narrative and gets the news on his side. Fucked up? Yes But this is where we are... we do not trust the President of the United States at all. It's more than just the "reality star" thing... one of trump's main campaign techniques since before the election in 2016 was to throw doubt on the News Media, to throw doubt on what was a fact and what was fiction. This is what has become of America. The news reports that the President of the US has COVID19 and my response is "huh, a hoax, trump's just manipulating the media". I've kind of always took news with a grain of salt - but now... I have to evaluate most information as "is it a Troll, Trolling? Is this something that actually happened? Is this the spin on something that actually happened? Is this the spin with some extra made up stuff thrown in on what actually happened? What DID actually happen?? And how many sources do I need to piece together to determine if any of it is actually based on fact/reality. " Thanks trump! for fucking with me. you are an asshole and if you do have Covid19 I do hope you suffer. A lot. for a very long time before you die. Juxtaposed with for anyone who knows and loves trump and feels bad about his illness/possible death: I am sorry for your pain. It sucks to see a loved one suffer. I'm sorry you love such awful person. I don't hold your love against you. We don't always have much choice over who we have a soft spot for. He hasn't made me distrust real journalists. I don't trust him. Beyond that, I pretty much don"t believe a word he says. But I count on real journalists, not talk show hosts, to educated me on the issues. I find Jon Oliver great for educating me about stuff. I enjoy Stephen Colbert and Trevor Noah but they just introduce me to topics. I need in depth analysis elsewhere. I like Chris Wallace too. I still trust investigative journalists.
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Post by laterbloomer on Oct 2, 2020 13:56:59 GMT -5
what does that translate to, for immediate and not-so-immediate days to come? On the news they mentioned it's probably not good if you see marine 1 land at the white house in the next two weeks ish. And it's bad if it then goes to whatever that hospital is - walter reed maybe? That really depends on what you consider "not good"
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 2, 2020 13:58:56 GMT -5
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 2, 2020 14:01:38 GMT -5
This must be hell for Melania --- in isolation with the Donald. They are most likely in separate rooms/quarters. I doubt they have slept in the same bed since their son was conceived. Chances are they are being kept in the same area to avoid spreading it to others. They may be in separate rooms, but their movements are likely restricted within the White House.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 14:02:31 GMT -5
I'm still leaning more and more to trump's positive being a hoax. I mean, really, the entire West Wing would have to be shut down first for cleaning, then only open for the few people who wouldn't have been exposed.
Think of all the people who work there every single day and how many would have been exposed and exposed others...Mark Meadows, Kayleigh McEnany, whoever is his personal secretary, all the secret service people, etc.
And then there's the fact that after he already knew about Hope Hicks, he went to his fund-raiser in a private home anyway, was on Air Force One without telling any of the reporters that she tested positive. The list goes on and on and on.
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Post by justme on Oct 2, 2020 14:03:15 GMT -5
On the news they mentioned it's probably not good if you see marine 1 land at the white house in the next two weeks ish. And it's bad if it then goes to whatever that hospital is - walter reed maybe? That really depends on what you consider "not good" Snort As much as I could care less about him, I'm not sure the chaos would be good just before the election.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 2, 2020 14:05:42 GMT -5
I'm still leaning more and more to trump's positive being a hoax. I mean, really, the entire West Wing would have to be shut down first for cleaning, then only open for the few people who wouldn't have been exposed. Think of all the people who work there every single day and how many would have been exposed and exposed others...Mark Meadows, Kayleigh McEnany, whoever is his personal secretary, all the secret service people, etc. And then there's the fact that after he already knew about Hope Hicks, he went to his fund-raiser in a private home anyway, was on Air Force One without telling any of the reporters that she tested positive. The list goes on and on and on. I believe he did every single one of those things despite knowing he was exposed. He has cancelled his rallies in FLA and WI. If it wasn't this, he would need to be on his deathbed to cancel them. And if he stays off TV, there is no doubt. In addition, too many people who have been around him are testing positive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 14:06:23 GMT -5
That really depends on what you consider "not good" Snort As much as I could care less about him, I'm not sure the chaos would be good just before the election. Chaos? No more chaotic than anything else since he first announced that he was running.
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Post by billisonboard on Oct 2, 2020 14:12:39 GMT -5
Oh, it is so nice that President Trump got a get well card from his lover:
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Post by imawino on Oct 2, 2020 14:14:11 GMT -5
I still think trump (and the others) are faking it. His "mild case" and certain recovery (and I suspect all the others will also have "mild cases" and quick recoveries) is just what his base needs to hear/see. It's a useful tool to increase the odds that he will be re-elected. conspiracy theories aren't anything new. In the past, I would pooh pooh "conspiracy" theories about politicians and/or the way votes would go .. since they were more or less based on subtle and sort of unlikely things. trump is just so in your face with what he says and does - I don't see how this, something that could so blatantly and so easily be used to his advantage, isn't a hoax. It's got all the hallmarks of something that would fit into trump's mode of operation. When I see his corpse I'll believe he had Covid19. Yep. Exactly what I thought when I heard it on the radio news this AM. The timing is too perfect. And, look now the country (world?) is talking about it vs. Tuesday's debate disaster. Political game play 101.
Lying to the entire American public about a public health crisis and in fact about one's own actual health is not "political game play 101". It's definitely something Trump would and has done. But that does not make it the standard operating practice you are trying to claim it is. In the scenario you are painting, that's not spin, that's not "having a different opinion", it's not bending a few facts. If he tested negative for COVID and tells the american public he tested positive for COVID, it is simply lying to the entire american public. The people he works for. I am sad for you and all his supporters who have been made to believe that is normal and acceptable. That it's some kind of superior gamesmanship. It's not. If he's lying, and maybe he is, maybe he isn't (and isn't it f'ing pathetic that we never know if our president is lying or not) it's just to get out of having to debate Biden again. Pansy.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 2, 2020 14:22:00 GMT -5
I still think trump (and the others) are faking it. His "mild case" and certain recovery (and I suspect all the others will also have "mild cases" and quick recoveries) is just what his base needs to hear/see. It's a useful tool to increase the odds that he will be re-elected. conspiracy theories aren't anything new. In the past, I would pooh pooh "conspiracy" theories about politicians and/or the way votes would go .. since they were more or less based on subtle and sort of unlikely things. trump is just so in your face with what he says and does - I don't see how this, something that could so blatantly and so easily be used to his advantage, isn't a hoax. It's got all the hallmarks of something that would fit into trump's mode of operation. When I see his corpse I'll believe he had Covid19. Yep. Exactly what I thought when I heard it on the radio news this AM. The timing is too perfect. And, look now the country (world?) is talking about it vs. Tuesday's debate disaster. Political game play 101.
Except that during the debate Trump kept insisting his maskless rallies are totally safe. Since Trump and his posse are famously being constantly tested for Covid, the most likely source of exposure was one of his rallies. Apparently all the GOP dignitaries that glad handed Trump after the last rally are sweating bullets. I don’t imagine any of them wore masks.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Oct 2, 2020 14:29:55 GMT -5
And now suddenly it's news Barrett had the virus this summer? Or did I miss something? Note the poll at the bottom of the article.
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Post by steff on Oct 2, 2020 14:33:55 GMT -5
Yep. Exactly what I thought when I heard it on the radio news this AM. The timing is too perfect. And, look now the country (world?) is talking about it vs. Tuesday's debate disaster. Political game play 101.
Lying to the entire American public about a public health crisis and in fact about one's own actual health is not "political game play 101". It's definitely something Trump would and has done. But that does not make it the standard operating practice you are trying to claim it is. In the scenario you are painting, that's not spin, that's not "having a different opinion", it's not bending a few facts. If he tested negative for COVID and tells the american public he tested positive for COVID, it is simply lying to the entire american public. The people he works for. I am sad for you and all his supporters who have been made to believe that is normal and acceptable. That it's some kind of superior gamesmanship. It's not. If he's lying, and maybe he is, maybe he isn't (and isn't it f'ing pathetic that we never know if our president is lying or not) it's just to get out of having to debate Biden again. Pansy. It's amazing what his supporters will excuse & accept as "normal" from him. It's "normal" and okay for the president to lie about having a virus that has killed over 200,000 Americans. Doesn't even raise a single red flag. Instead it's a "game" that he's winning. Makes me really wonder why kind of people have no moral compass at all to think this is normal and no big deal.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 2, 2020 14:34:27 GMT -5
I like Presidents who don't get Coronavirus. They're losers.
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Post by Ryan on Oct 2, 2020 14:38:39 GMT -5
I'm all for conspiracy theories (there is some truth in some of them), but you guys are ridiculous. Having COVID is not some master class chess move, it could easily work against him. If you're going to lie about something to improve your chances, make up a lie about saving someone's life.
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Post by steff on Oct 2, 2020 14:45:59 GMT -5
Personally, I hope his Covid experience goes like mine has. 2 weeks of being too sick to move out of bed or know what day it is. Followed by 3-5 weeks of barely being able to function thru the day, needing a nap at least once a day, sometimes twice. Then months and months and months of unexplained health issues. Raging high blood pressure, heart issues, lung/breathing issues, exhaustion, fatigue, shortness of breath, inability to walk 10 feet without feeling like you just ran a marathon, lack of sleep, light headedness, dizziness, muscle cramps, and in general feeling like shit most of the time. He'll be able to claim that he survived it, but his every waking moment will be harder than it was before.
and save the lectures because I'm only wishing on him what I am still currently experiencing. May he find out that he's just like any other average American, he can get sick & get his fat orange ass kicked by the "hoax" that he caught.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Oct 2, 2020 14:50:29 GMT -5
Nothing unusual about this. Most people don't know our daily operations.
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Post by swamp on Oct 2, 2020 14:53:15 GMT -5
And now suddenly it's news Barrett had the virus this summer? Or did I miss something? Note the poll at the bottom of the article.
Who is Sandra Barrett? The nominee is Amy Coney Barrett. And it's probably news so we know that she wasn't the source of the virus.
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Post by imawino on Oct 2, 2020 14:57:42 GMT -5
And now suddenly it's news Barrett had the virus this summer? Or did I miss something? Note the poll at the bottom of the article.
I'm not sure if you know this, but Barrett wasn't nearly as newsworthy during the summer.
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Post by Bob Ross on Oct 2, 2020 14:58:53 GMT -5
My MIL believes it is fake if he recovers - it was fake So I said: what if he dies? She said: it is what it is and only then she will believe it. One of the first things I saw on Twitter last night after the announcement was that Trump is going to fake his death like Hitler and Russia is letting him defect there to avoid prosecution. So, if he dies? People will say he really didn't and is in Russia No way Trump can stay hidden. He loves to run his mouth too much. If this were to happen, Putin would likely have little use for him anymore. He'd interrogate him for classified info, then make him quietly disappear. Then again, Putin might set up Trump on the airwaves to stoke the flames with his base from an alleged "secret location" (not Russia), until he was discovered or wore out his welcome, and then... see the former. Man, conspiracy theories are kinda fun! Note to self: become more unhinged.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 2, 2020 15:00:33 GMT -5
Personally, I hope his Covid experience goes like mine has. 2 weeks of being too sick to move out of bed or know what day it is. Followed by 3-5 weeks of barely being able to function thru the day, needing a nap at least once a day, sometimes twice. Then months and months and months of unexplained health issues. Raging high blood pressure, heart issues, lung/breathing issues, exhaustion, fatigue, shortness of breath, inability to walk 10 feet without feeling like you just ran a marathon, lack of sleep, light headedness, dizziness, muscle cramps, and in general feeling like shit most of the time. He'll be able to claim that he survived it, but his every waking moment will be harder than it was before.
and save the lectures because I'm only wishing on him what I am still currently experiencing. May he find out that he's just like any other average American, he can get sick & get his fat orange ass kicked by the "hoax" that he caught.
That sucks! I didn't know you had it. I hope you feel better soon.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 2, 2020 15:00:46 GMT -5
Nothing unusual about this. Most people don't know our daily operations. True....which is why the only real thing I found about this was in a tweet. Back in the dark ages when my dad was in SAC, the public never knew when they were called in. Normally families of military were not told either, until after the fact.
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Post by tallguy on Oct 2, 2020 15:02:01 GMT -5
And now suddenly it's news Barrett had the virus this summer? Or did I miss something? Note the poll at the bottom of the article.
It's not Sandra Barrett.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 15:02:46 GMT -5
You are SO much nicer than me. I would not wish DEATH on anyone Some people here frighten meSeems odd, you do know there is a power off button on your computer, don't you ? The screen will go blank.
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Post by irishpad on Oct 2, 2020 15:03:42 GMT -5
Personally, I hope his Covid experience goes like mine has. 2 weeks of being too sick to move out of bed or know what day it is. Followed by 3-5 weeks of barely being able to function thru the day, needing a nap at least once a day, sometimes twice. Then months and months and months of unexplained health issues. Raging high blood pressure, heart issues, lung/breathing issues, exhaustion, fatigue, shortness of breath, inability to walk 10 feet without feeling like you just ran a marathon, lack of sleep, light headedness, dizziness, muscle cramps, and in general feeling like shit most of the time. He'll be able to claim that he survived it, but his every waking moment will be harder than it was before.
and save the lectures because I'm only wishing on him what I am still currently experiencing. May he find out that he's just like any other average American, he can get sick & get his fat orange ass kicked by the "hoax" that he caught.
I totally missed it steff that you had Covid. So sorry for all you have gone through. Were you at least able to reap the benefits of your summer garden?
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Oct 2, 2020 15:07:49 GMT -5
The thing is, the public will never know if Mr. Trump really had/has it. HIPAA, false news, etc. I raise an eyebrow at the timing.
I like this one, where he's called the world's most powerful man:
And save the further lectures. It's amazing how exhausting it must be to carry so much hate of our President and his supporters. Have fun continuing to "like" each other's comments-as always, you're doing a great job at rah-rahing each other!
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Oct 2, 2020 15:10:31 GMT -5
And now suddenly it's news Barrett had the virus this summer? Or did I miss something? Note the poll at the bottom of the article.
It's not Sandra Barrett.Shit, sorry. Thx. OP fixed. Trying to shovel snowflakes and work here at the office at the same time, LOL.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 2, 2020 15:10:35 GMT -5
I still think trump (and the others) are faking it. His "mild case" and certain recovery (and I suspect all the others will also have "mild cases" and quick recoveries) is just what his base needs to hear/see. It's a useful tool to increase the odds that he will be re-elected. conspiracy theories aren't anything new. In the past, I would pooh pooh "conspiracy" theories about politicians and/or the way votes would go .. since they were more or less based on subtle and sort of unlikely things. trump is just so in your face with what he says and does - I don't see how this, something that could so blatantly and so easily be used to his advantage, isn't a hoax. It's got all the hallmarks of something that would fit into trump's mode of operation. When I see his corpse I'll believe he had Covid19. Yep. Exactly what I thought when I heard it on the radio news this AM. The timing is too perfect. And, look now the country (world?) is talking about it vs. Tuesday's debate disaster. Political game play 101.
still not getting how he gains anything from this, otherwise I would entertain it more.
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Post by Iggy aka IG on Oct 2, 2020 15:12:49 GMT -5
Yep. Exactly what I thought when I heard it on the radio news this AM. The timing is too perfect. And, look now the country (world?) is talking about it vs. Tuesday's debate disaster. Political game play 101.
still not getting how he gains anything from this, otherwise I would entertain it more. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure this one out, too. He's/they're up to something.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Oct 2, 2020 15:12:53 GMT -5
The thing is, the public will never know if Mr. Trump really had/has it. HIPAA, false news, etc. I raise an eyebrow at the timing.
I like this one, where he's called the world's most powerful man:
And save the further lectures. It's amazing how exhausting it must be to carry so much hate of our President and his supporters. Have fun continuing to "like" each other's comments-as always, as always, you're doing a great job at rah-rahing each other!
I suspect he has it I do not wish for anyone to get sick I do not wish him to die from it But, given his downplaying it, refusal to support mask wearing, mocking those that do, and inability to treat it as the crisis it is, it is fitting that he too should suffer for it. Over 200k Americans are dead, and that is on his watch, and as president, his responsibility. Something he refuses to acknowledge. So, if it takes him and his family catching it and being sick for him to finally act presidential and do his job, good. But if he continues to act the same way after he and melania are sick, and he spread it to how many others by being irresponsible, fuck him
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