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Post by nidena on May 1, 2020 23:49:34 GMT -5
It's that time...
The time where the states start opening up. I think Georgia lead the way, yesterday. Indiana starts on Monday.
What are you looking forward to most, to being able to do/see/go again?
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Post by billisonboard on May 2, 2020 0:02:05 GMT -5
It's that time... The time where the states start opening up. I think Georgia lead the way, yesterday. Indiana starts on Monday. What are you looking forward to most, to being able to do/see/go again? I most look forward to seeing the governors having to back track when numbers of new cases start to skyrocket.
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Post by thyme4change on May 2, 2020 0:25:33 GMT -5
My kids and DH and I have found a fun game. I hope the restrictions are kept just a little longer so my kids will keep enjoying things with me.
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Post by justme on May 2, 2020 1:21:38 GMT -5
It's that time... The time where the states start opening up. I think Georgia lead the way, yesterday. Indiana starts on Monday. What are you looking forward to most, to being able to do/see/go again? I most look forward to seeing the governors having to back track when numbers of new cases start to skyrocket. The Florida one rambled on a lot about how the cases haven't spiked after Jacksonville opened the beaches... except it hadn't even been a full 14 days yet since it first opened. He also went on and on about how quickly sunlight kills the virus so things like beaches and parks are safe. Which isn't quite what I've seen the research says. You might be able to argue the number of cases is dropping in Florida, but the number of deaths have not started going downward yet. I don't think it'll look good in two wks after we start opening up on Monday. At least the theme parks are staying closed.
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Post by nidena on May 2, 2020 1:47:58 GMT -5
That's the interesting/concerning thing about Indiana. They say they're going to monitor any increases in cases BUT all restrictions are removed over the course of two weeks which means the state won't know anything about the first phase until AFTER the last phase is complete. They should, instead, do these phases over the course of eight weeks rather than two or three.
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Post by movingforward on May 2, 2020 7:59:38 GMT -5
It's that time... The time where the states start opening up. I think Georgia lead the way, yesterday. Indiana starts on Monday. What are you looking forward to most, to being able to do/see/go again? I most look forward to seeing the governors having to back track when numbers of new cases start to skyrocket. As entertaining as that will be i would still rather they be right and the rest of us to be wrong. Probably not going to happen but I can hope. Texas is opening retail and restaurants at 25% capacity. Most are not opening with that capacity level. No hair salons, gyms, etc yet. I actually think our governor has a reasonable plan.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 2, 2020 8:06:08 GMT -5
I most look forward to seeing the governors having to back track when numbers of new cases start to skyrocket. The Florida one rambled on a lot about how the cases haven't spiked after Jacksonville opened the beaches... except it hadn't even been a full 14 days yet since it first opened. He also went on and on about how quickly sunlight kills the virus so things like beaches and parks are safe. Which isn't quite what I've seen the research says. You might be able to argue the number of cases is dropping in Florida, but the number of deaths have not started going downward yet. I don't think it'll look good in two wks after we start opening up on Monday. At least the theme parks are staying closed. I read somewhere that Florida is suppressing death counts from covid-19. I don't know if it's true, but seemed to come from a legitimate source. ETA: thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/495295-florida-ordered-coroners-to-stop-releasing-coronavirus-death-data-report
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Post by billisonboard on May 2, 2020 8:18:02 GMT -5
I most look forward to seeing the governors having to back track when numbers of new cases start to skyrocket. As entertaining as that will be i would still rather they be right and the rest of us to be wrong. Probably not going to happen but I can hope. Texas is opening retail and restaurants at 25% capacity. Most are not opening with that capacity level. No hair salons, gyms, etc yet. I actually think our governor has a reasonable plan. That is a good hope and I will certainly acknowledge being wrong if it plays out that way. I also don't necessarily see it as a bad thing if I am right. We need test cases to gain knowledge. I understand there will be innocent lives impacted and likely lost. Reality sucks at times.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 9:20:03 GMT -5
That's the interesting/concerning thing about Indiana. They say they're going to monitor any increases in cases BUT all restrictions are removed over the course of two weeks which means the state won't know anything about the first phase until AFTER the last phase is complete. They should, instead, do these phases over the course of eight weeks rather than two or three. I agree. My state, MO, is opening up cautiously (restaurants to have only 10% of capacity, for example) but I'm not gonna rush out and party. I want to give all of this a few weeks and see what the impact has been on relaxation of restrictions. As usual, the numbers will be complicated because I think testing is increasing. LabCorp, the company I use for my bloodwork, has just announced that they have COVID-19 tests but they require a doctor's order. Before they had said just plain didn't have them. So- of course the number of reported cases will increase.
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Post by jerseygirl on May 2, 2020 10:12:33 GMT -5
It's that time... The time where the states start opening up. I think Georgia lead the way, yesterday. Indiana starts on Monday. What are you looking forward to most, to being able to do/see/go again? I most look forward to seeing the governors having to back track when numbers of new cases start to skyrocket. That’s a really nasty hope
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Post by billisonboard on May 2, 2020 10:19:31 GMT -5
I most look forward to seeing the governors having to back track when numbers of new cases start to skyrocket. That’s a really nasty hope I will own that.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on May 2, 2020 10:26:44 GMT -5
we are still on isolation in illinois. Will see how it goes with those states opening up. I have no issues with the isolation right now, and everyone I know is doing pretty ok with it. I could keep this up for months and be fine. Our household is being very productive. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/is starting to break out info by state. Just a few so far, hope they do all states so we can see the data.
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Post by Blonde Granny on May 2, 2020 10:29:45 GMT -5
Arkansas is giving us hair salons, tattoos, barber shops and I forget what else....must not have impressed me. Our church is biting at the bit to get back into the sanctuary, I am not anxious to be in a room of 750+ people when I can sit in my pajamas and watch it on TV. I suspicion the church is anxious because donations were down for 2 months or so.
I've seen the stats from my local VA med center and I'm not excited about coming back there.....unless they do something spectacular in those old buildings built in 1932, I'd be happy to stay home.
Staying home goes for all the eating out, shopping and movies as far as I'm concerned.
Ours go into effect Wednesday the 6th.
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Post by skeeter on May 2, 2020 10:48:21 GMT -5
That's the interesting/concerning thing about Indiana. They say they're going to monitor any increases in cases BUT all restrictions are removed over the course of two weeks which means the state won't know anything about the first phase until AFTER the last phase is complete. They should, instead, do these phases over the course of eight weeks rather than two or three. ALL restrictions will not be lifted until July 4th. IN is doing five stages, a little at a time. Stage Two starts this Monday with some restrictions being lifted only.
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Post by billisonboard on May 2, 2020 11:00:51 GMT -5
That's the interesting/concerning thing about Indiana. They say they're going to monitor any increases in cases BUT all restrictions are removed over the course of two weeks which means the state won't know anything about the first phase until AFTER the last phase is complete. They should, instead, do these phases over the course of eight weeks rather than two or three. ALL restrictions will not be lifted until July 4th. IN is doing five stages, a little at a time. Stage Two starts this Monday with some restrictions being lifted only. Read Gov. Holcomb’s Full Announcement on Plans to Reopen Indiana by July 4
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Post by skeeter on May 2, 2020 11:05:56 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the link. I didn't know how to do it.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 2, 2020 11:10:31 GMT -5
WA is staying mostly shut down for a bit.
Viruses do not respect state lines, so this is going to get interesting. It does not really matter how low the cases get in WA if travel loosens and people start moving across the country.
We have not visited TD’s mom in over 2 months. Normally, we’d see her weekly, but as the Canadian border is closed, that’s not happening. M6 sister is packing to move out of the house she has lived in for 26 years. She is having a hard time, I’d like to be there for her.....but that’s not happening.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 2, 2020 11:26:57 GMT -5
Number of cases confirmed will always be suspect, but hospital admissions are more reliable. Or you can just follow the obituary page. Rest of paper has shrunk, but the length of that section, especially on Sunday has been depressing. It was nearly 20 pages on a recent Sunday in the Boston globe
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Post by irishpad on May 2, 2020 11:29:36 GMT -5
WA is staying mostly shut down for a bit. Just a side note. I'm really impressed with WA response. They started out as the state with the highest number of cases. Now they are 18th, lower than their ranking in total population (which is #13). Wonderful job by their public officials. I live in MN, on the border with ND. ND is starting to open up while MN extending stay at home for another 2 weeks. Makes some things difficult (e.g. the Catholic Churches there will start public Masses again with social distancing rules, masks, etc.) but I will be following MN guidelines at my church even though I know there will be frustration with that by some of our parishioners.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 2, 2020 11:37:45 GMT -5
WA is staying mostly shut down for a bit. Just a side note. I'm really impressed with WA response. They started out as the state with the highest number of cases. Now they are 18th, lower than their ranking in total population (which is #13). Wonderful job by their public officials. I live in MN, on the border with ND. ND is starting to open up while MN extending stay at home for another 2 weeks. Makes some things difficult (e.g. the Catholic Churches there will start public Masses again with social distancing rules, masks, etc.) but I will be following MN guidelines at my church even though I know there will be frustration with that by some of our parishioners. I am too.....but there are rumblings out there about this last extension. People are most pissed with Insleee because he is listening to the scientists. And the ironic thing is because he put so much stock in listening to the scientists is the reason wh6 it has not been worse. Locally, Whatcom county has had 300 cases, 28 deaths. I think that 21/28 of those deaths were at a nursing home. However, this county’s testing supplies got shanghaied by FEMA a few weeks ago and I’m not sure if they’ve been replaced. Cases have been pretty static, so not sure if it is lack of testing or truly no cases.
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Post by billisonboard on May 2, 2020 11:50:05 GMT -5
Just a side note. I'm really impressed with WA response. They started out as the state with the highest number of cases. Now they are 18th, lower than their ranking in total population (which is #13). Wonderful job by their public officials. I live in MN, on the border with ND. ND is starting to open up while MN extending stay at home for another 2 weeks. Makes some things difficult (e.g. the Catholic Churches there will start public Masses again with social distancing rules, masks, etc.) but I will be following MN guidelines at my church even though I know there will be frustration with that by some of our parishioners. I am too.....but there are rumblings out there about this last extension. People are most pissed with Insleee because he is listening to the scientists. And the ironic thing is because he put so much stock in listening to the scientists is the reason wh6 it has not been worse. Locally, Whatcom county has had 300 cases, 28 deaths. I think that 21/28 of those deaths were at a nursing home. However, this county’s testing supplies got shanghaied by FEMA a few weeks ago and I’m not sure if they’ve been replaced. Cases have been pretty static, so not sure if it is lack of testing or truly no cases. Washington also has its long running East-West feud playing out once again.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 2, 2020 11:59:29 GMT -5
I am too.....but there are rumblings out there about this last extension. People are most pissed with Insleee because he is listening to the scientists. And the ironic thing is because he put so much stock in listening to the scientists is the reason wh6 it has not been worse. Locally, Whatcom county has had 300 cases, 28 deaths. I think that 21/28 of those deaths were at a nursing home. However, this county’s testing supplies got shanghaied by FEMA a few weeks ago and I’m not sure if they’ve been replaced. Cases have been pretty static, so not sure if it is lack of testing or truly no cases. Washington also has its long running East-West feud playing out once again. Shades of The Stand?
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Post by Tiny on May 2, 2020 12:38:27 GMT -5
The Florida one rambled on a lot about how the cases haven't spiked after Jacksonville opened the beaches... except it hadn't even been a full 14 days yet since it first opened. He also went on and on about how quickly sunlight kills the virus so things like beaches and parks are safe. Which isn't quite what I've seen the research says. You might be able to argue the number of cases is dropping in Florida, but the number of deaths have not started going downward yet. I don't think it'll look good in two wks after we start opening up on Monday. At least the theme parks are staying closed. I read somewhere that Florida is suppressing death counts from covid-19. I don't know if it's true, but seemed to come from a legitimate source. ETA: thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/495295-florida-ordered-coroners-to-stop-releasing-coronavirus-death-data-reportYEah, I was kind of wondering about Florida.... they've got a median age of 41 in the state (New York has a median age of 36) Other states with higher death counts also have lower median age. So Florida's got a lot of old people. I checked and Florida has about 70K people in "nursing homes" state wide currently. I'm guessing someone with the Coronavirus visited some of those nursing homes. And I suspect a lot of older people in Florida live in their own homes (if they don't need assistance on a day to day basis) who also may have bumped into the virus at the Publix or a restaurant or some other entertainment venue. I thought it was kind of odd that Florida wasn't seeing some higher death counts - there seem to be a lot of people in Florida who fit the "high risk" profile for a bad outcome from catching Covid19. They've also got a population that travels so I would think there would be more 'hot spots'... And they've got a large "poor" population. With the low spread and low death counts - I was thinking maybe someone down there had found the "Fountain of Youth" which turned out to actually be the "Fountain of Health for Old People". Maybe Florida old people don't go out alot? Maybe Florida isn't seeing an increase in "home deaths"? Maybe they are but they aren't counting the "gap" deaths (if 100 per day were expected to die at home on a typical day - but now 150 or more are dying - it MIGHT indicate that some of those people died from Covid19 or complications from it). Chicago saw something like that in the days (and weeks after) the HeatWave of 1995... older people started dying at home and it pretty much went unnoticed until the morgues and funeral homes had to resort to refriderated trucks to hand the bodies. It was also only about an extra 700 deaths over a few weeks - which might mirror covid deaths. It also wasn't obvious that the heat had been a big contributor to the deaths UNTIL afterwards. Europe saw something very similar when they had their week long heatwave a bunch of years ago. FYI: turns out that old people (and anyone with health issues) living with the heat (in 100's) for 2 or 3 days/nights (or more) with no relief tend to start dying on the 4th/5th day and forward - even after the heat subsides. That's why we've now got designated "cooling stations" - like the local library or the Mall - where people without AC (or the inability to adequately cool their homes) are encouraged to go for some hours during the day when we have temps in the upper 90's (and no relief at night) for a day or two. Being able to spend a few hours each day not overheated makes a big difference in the outcome for seniors and people with poor health.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 2, 2020 12:44:13 GMT -5
I most look forward to seeing the governors having to back track when numbers of new cases start to skyrocket. That’s a really nasty hope He didn't say he looked forward to skyrocketing new cases. He said he looked forward to seeing the governors having to back track. As do I. I don't want to see new cases skyrocket - but it's inevitable. The governors WILL have to backtrack which will bring the numbers back down. Nothing nasty about wanting to see governors act more responsibly.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 2, 2020 12:48:36 GMT -5
WA is staying mostly shut down for a bit. Just a side note. I'm really impressed with WA response. They started out as the state with the highest number of cases. Now they are 18th, lower than their ranking in total population (which is #13). Wonderful job by their public officials. I live in MN, on the border with ND. ND is starting to open up while MN extending stay at home for another 2 weeks. Makes some things difficult (e.g. the Catholic Churches there will start public Masses again with social distancing rules, masks, etc.) but I will be following MN guidelines at my church even though I know there will be frustration with that by some of our parishioners. Agreed. I live in Jefferson Co WA. We have had 28 confirmed cases for over 3 weeks now. Most of the people around me support Inslee's response. I really like his "4 phase" approach. And I admit I'm looking forward to Phase 2 when the parks open to camping and dog groomers can open.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 2, 2020 12:53:32 GMT -5
YEah, I was kind of wondering about Florida.... they've got a median age of 41 in the state (New York has a median age of 36) Other states with higher death counts also have lower median age. So Florida's got a lot of old people. I checked and Florida has about 70K people in "nursing homes" state wide currently. I'm guessing someone with the Coronavirus visited some of those nursing homes. And I suspect a lot of older people in Florida live in their own homes (if they don't need assistance on a day to day basis) who also may have bumped into the virus at the Publix or a restaurant or some other entertainment venue. I thought it was kind of odd that Florida wasn't seeing some higher death counts - there seem to be a lot of people in Florida who fit the "high risk" profile for a bad outcome from catching Covid19. They've also got a population that travels so I would think there would be more 'hot spots'... And they've got a large "poor" population. With the low spread and low death counts - I was thinking maybe someone down there had found the "Fountain of Youth" which turned out to actually be the "Fountain of Health for Old People". Maybe Florida old people don't go out alot? Maybe Florida isn't seeing an increase in "home deaths"? Maybe they are but they aren't counting the "gap" deaths (if 100 per day were expected to die at home on a typical day - but now 150 or more are dying - it MIGHT indicate that some of those people died from Covid19 or complications from it). Chicago saw something like that in the days (and weeks after) the HeatWave of 1995... older people started dying at home and it pretty much went unnoticed until the morgues and funeral homes had to resort to refriderated trucks to hand the bodies. It was also only about an extra 700 deaths over a few weeks - which might mirror covid deaths. It also wasn't obvious that the heat had been a big contributor to the deaths UNTIL afterwards. Europe saw something very similar when they had their week long heatwave a bunch of years ago. FYI: turns out that old people (and anyone with health issues) living with the heat (in 100's) for 2 or 3 days/nights (or more) with no relief tend to start dying on the 4th/5th day and forward - even after the heat subsides. That's why we've now got designated "cooling stations" - like the local library or the Mall - where people without AC (or the inability to adequately cool their homes) are encouraged to go for some hours during the day when we have temps in the upper 90's (and no relief at night) for a day or two. Being able to spend a few hours each day not overheated makes a big difference in the outcome for seniors and people with poor health. Yeah, and have you looked at Texas? Between their small number of cases and large number of recoveries, they really seem to be sporting some magical health.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on May 2, 2020 12:57:05 GMT -5
Just a side note. I'm really impressed with WA response. They started out as the state with the highest number of cases. Now they are 18th, lower than their ranking in total population (which is #13). Wonderful job by their public officials. I live in MN, on the border with ND. ND is starting to open up while MN extending stay at home for another 2 weeks. Makes some things difficult (e.g. the Catholic Churches there will start public Masses again with social distancing rules, masks, etc.) but I will be following MN guidelines at my church even though I know there will be frustration with that by some of our parishioners. Agreed. I live in Jefferson Co WA. We have had 28 confirmed cases for over 3 weeks now. Most of the people around me support Inslee's response. I really like his "4 phase" approach. And I admit I'm looking forward to Phase 2 when the parks open to camping and dog groomers can open. Are you able to get testing done? Testing supplies meant for PeaceHealth were the ones that got shanghaied, and as they are the major healthcare in Whatcom, if you want to be tested you need to go south to Seattle.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on May 2, 2020 13:40:05 GMT -5
Agreed. I live in Jefferson Co WA. We have had 28 confirmed cases for over 3 weeks now. Most of the people around me support Inslee's response. I really like his "4 phase" approach. And I admit I'm looking forward to Phase 2 when the parks open to camping and dog groomers can open. Are you able to get testing done? Testing supplies meant for PeaceHealth were the ones that got shanghaied, and as they are the major healthcare in Whatcom, if you want to be tested you need to go south to Seattle. I honestly have no idea (although I doubt it). The county public health website has a questionaire for those who think they have symptoms (as does my own dr’s group). One person posted their own experience on the county FB group. They called the co public health dept because they had symptoms, talked to a nurse, met with the nurse and was told they “probably” had it, but since their symptoms were mild to quarantine and call if they got worse.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 2, 2020 13:43:45 GMT -5
A lot of Iowa deaths have been nursing homes and now meat packing plant employees. I hope if anything comes out of all this how these places are run is investigated and reforms are put in place. We should not treat our most vulnerable as expendable nor should we be treating those on whose backs our food supply runs on like dirt. The meat packing plants scare me. We are just now seeing the meat packing plants flair up and who knows where all they traveled because we aren't doing any tracking. On top of that now Trump has mandated they stay open but since there are no repercussions if they don't ensure safety who knows how many people they and their families are exposing every day. But we are still not mass testing. So let's reopen on Monday! What is the worst that can happen?!
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Post by formerroomate99 on May 2, 2020 14:02:49 GMT -5
I don't think I'm going to change my behavior that much if my state opens up. I'm not high risk, but I don't want to go through getting that disease. And keeping myself healthy will help keep the medical system from getting overwhelmed.
The schools in my state are closed for the rest of the year. I don't know what I'm going to do if they open up in the fall. My two extroverted children spiraled when they lost school. Ironically only kid that has done well being homeschooled is the one who is in a special ed classroom.
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