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Post by andi9899 on Feb 14, 2020 14:05:19 GMT -5
Really? This has reached a whole new level of stupid.
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Post by moon/Laura on Feb 14, 2020 14:32:29 GMT -5
Really? This has reached a whole new level of stupid. right?
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Post by bean29 on Feb 14, 2020 15:11:56 GMT -5
I think we are pretty much at the point where we no longer live in the land of the free.
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Post by Tiny on Feb 14, 2020 15:50:03 GMT -5
Sounds to me like a State Rep has too much time on his hands. And that he has a staff of people doing alot of busy work. OR maybe they weren't doing any work and he needed something that would it make it look like they did DO work. Or maybe he needs to meet a quota for bills introduced? Or maybe wants to be able to say he introduced X number of bills? Maybe he should work on getting a bill that dictates the length, width, and color of ties that male State Representatives should wear when in the House. If he was my State Representative - I'd be wondering why he has so much time and money to spend on something that was useless to life in my state, county, and city. I would wonder why my elected official was wasting my money on trivial stuff. I assume Jonesborough has some more important issues for their representative to tackle. Maybe everyone there is super wealthy and has money to blow on "entertainment" like this? Maybe Tennesse doesn't have any money to PAY it's representatives to do useful things... and that's why they must make up "busy work" to make it look like they are productive? Government seems to be a business these days... and it's important to look busy in order to keep one's job.l
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Post by Tiny on Feb 14, 2020 15:53:17 GMT -5
I think we are pretty much at the point where we no longer live in the land of the free. As in free to introduce a bill to a vote ? And how much time and money does it cost to get a bill to the point of being voted on? Did he write this up on a paper napkin while he was eating lunch? Or did it take weeks and lots of people's hands to get it done? H
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Post by mollyanna58 on Feb 14, 2020 15:57:38 GMT -5
And if someone else introduces a bill declaring Fox News and Breitbart to be fake news?
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 14, 2020 16:04:13 GMT -5
And if someone else introduces a bill declaring Fox News and Breitbart to be fake news? Breitbart ran a story about a "pro-Trump rally" on Parliament Hill in Ottawa. It was a large group trying to raise awareness about Lyme Disease. (Well, I guess they're both blood-sucking ticks.)
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 14, 2020 16:17:18 GMT -5
It will probably pass. It's Tennessee after all.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 14, 2020 16:18:53 GMT -5
Here is the bill in PDF form if anyone is interested. link
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 14, 2020 19:34:35 GMT -5
And if someone else introduces a bill declaring Fox News and Breitbart to be fake news? It's Tennessee. I work there. Someone introduced that kind of bill they'd drag him through town behind a pick up truck and burn down his house. There's some aggressive red neck patriots around here.
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Post by dezii on Feb 14, 2020 23:25:02 GMT -5
It will probably pass. It's Tennessee after all. Is it really that bad Tenn? You poor baby.....
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Post by dezii on Feb 14, 2020 23:32:39 GMT -5
Here is the bill in PDF form if anyone is interested. linkI wonder if after the Donald loses in 2020, if the country will see a rash of suicides by loyal members of his base...whole families in some cases...Kind of like in Germany in 1945 after the defeat there..Remember photos of Burgermeisters, Natzi leaders , unable to face a Germany with out Herr Adolf.. Methinks this political leader just might fit the bill...Just saying.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 15, 2020 9:41:25 GMT -5
What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me?
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 15, 2020 10:10:13 GMT -5
What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me? You can go to almost anywhere and live as an ex-pat. It's a different thing to move somewhere and become a citizen, able to get public benefits like healthcare. Usually they want you to have a certain amount of income or net wealth, or else be young enough to work. I've checked. There are some very attractive places in Canada .
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 15, 2020 10:20:07 GMT -5
What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me? You can go to almost anywhere and live as an ex-pat. It's a different thing to move somewhere and become a citizen, able to get public benefits like healthcare. Usually they want you to have a certain amount of income or net wealth, or else be young enough to work. I've checked. There are some very attractive places in Canada . I must have to do something to live as an ex-pat. Especially if I want to work. I have been assured repeatedly that ALL OTHER COUNTRIES are better at keeping out riff raff. (They never seem to have real examples, but they are so passionate, they must now be wrong.)
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 16, 2020 15:24:43 GMT -5
What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me? Not quite as easy as you think since you do have money. I may be quite expensive especially if you intend to give up your citizenship. The IRS does not like that one bit!
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Post by Opti on Feb 16, 2020 16:44:42 GMT -5
It will probably pass. It's Tennessee after all. Bummer.
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Post by Opti on Feb 16, 2020 16:47:03 GMT -5
What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me? Not quite as easy as you think since you do have money. I may be quite expensive especially if you intend to give up your citizenship. The IRS does not like that one bit! I think since she does have money she has a better chance than I, in getting in. Isn't the going rate for say Canada or Australia a floor of $200K in assets and some "proof" that the citizen would bring a new company into the country and possibly employ people?
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Post by Opti on Feb 16, 2020 16:48:43 GMT -5
You can go to almost anywhere and live as an ex-pat. It's a different thing to move somewhere and become a citizen, able to get public benefits like healthcare. Usually they want you to have a certain amount of income or net wealth, or else be young enough to work. I've checked. There are some very attractive places in Canada . I must have to do something to live as an ex-pat. Especially if I want to work. I have been assured repeatedly that ALL OTHER COUNTRIES are better at keeping out riff raff. (They never seem to have real examples, but they are so passionate, they must now be wrong.) I'm beginning to believe they are passionate to throw us off the trail, or perhaps just deny the real reason they say and do what they do.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 16, 2020 17:07:56 GMT -5
Not quite as easy as you think since you do have money. I may be quite expensive especially if you intend to give up your citizenship. The IRS does not like that one bit! I think since she does have money she has a better chance than I, in getting in. Isn't the going rate for say Canada or Australia a floor of $200K in assets and some "proof" that the citizen would bring a new company into the country and possibly employ people? Well, I looked into New Zealand. Assets of at least $500K (assume pp) and a certain amount of guaranteed income. Plus you have to carry your own health insurance. And you still have to pay US federal income tax as well as NZ tax. Doable, but standard of living would probably go down. Canada's not that easy either. Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you. I don't think they do that anymore. Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 16, 2020 17:10:11 GMT -5
You can go to almost anywhere and live as an ex-pat. It's a different thing to move somewhere and become a citizen, able to get public benefits like healthcare. Usually they want you to have a certain amount of income or net wealth, or else be young enough to work. I've checked. There are some very attractive places in Canada . I must have to do something to live as an ex-pat. Especially if I want to work. I have been assured repeatedly that ALL OTHER COUNTRIES are better at keeping out riff raff. (They never seem to have real examples, but they are so passionate, they must now be wrong.) I'm pretty sure I could live quite nicely as an ex-pat (since I grew up as one). But I don't think DH would be happy....
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 16, 2020 18:05:33 GMT -5
I think since she does have money she has a better chance than I, in getting in. Isn't the going rate for say Canada or Australia a floor of $200K in assets and some "proof" that the citizen would bring a new company into the country and possibly employ people? Well, I looked into New Zealand. Assets of at least $500K (assume pp) and a certain amount of guaranteed income. Plus you have to carry your own health insurance. And you still have to pay US federal income tax as well as NZ tax. Doable, but standard of living would probably go down. Canada's not that easy either. Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you. I don't think they do that anymore. Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there. Even I wouldn't be allowed into Australia or New Zealand, despite being from a Commonwealth country. We both have Her Majesty on our money. Speaking of which....If there's a New Zealand, then where is Zealand?
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 16, 2020 18:09:35 GMT -5
Canada's not that easy either. Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you. I don't think they do that anymore. Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there.
They still do. Your relatives can live, study and work in Canada if they become permanent residents of Canada. You can sponsor certain relatives to come to Canada if you’re at least 18 years old and a: Canadian citizen or person registered in Canada as an Indian under the Canadian Indian Act or permanent resident of Canada. www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship.html
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Post by weltschmerz on Feb 16, 2020 18:12:25 GMT -5
Your responsibilities When you sponsor a relative to become a permanent resident of Canada, you must: meet set income guidelines agree in writing to give financial support to your relative and any other eligible relatives coming with them: beginning on the date they become a permanent resident for up to 20 years (depending on their age and how you’re related) The person you sponsor must sign an agreement saying they will make the effort to support themselves. This includes sponsored dependent children 18 or older. Dependent children under 19 don’t have to sign this agreement. www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/other-relatives/eligibility.html
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Feb 16, 2020 18:40:56 GMT -5
Your responsibilities When you sponsor a relative to become a permanent resident of Canada, you must: meet set income guidelines agree in writing to give financial support to your relative and any other eligible relatives coming with them: beginning on the date they become a permanent resident for up to 20 years (depending on their age and how you’re related) The person you sponsor must sign an agreement saying they will make the effort to support themselves. This includes sponsored dependent children 18 or older. Dependent children under 19 don’t have to sign this agreement. www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/other-relatives/eligibility.htmlHmmmm DH has cousins. But we dont know them that well....
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 16, 2020 19:57:29 GMT -5
I think since she does have money she has a better chance than I, in getting in. Isn't the going rate for say Canada or Australia a floor of $200K in assets and some "proof" that the citizen would bring a new company into the country and possibly employ people? Well, I looked into New Zealand. Assets of at least $500K (assume pp) and a certain amount of guaranteed income. Plus you have to carry your own health insurance. And you still have to pay US federal income tax as well as NZ tax. Doable, but standard of living would probably go down. Canada's not that easy either. Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you. I don't think they do that anymore. Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there. Maybe I should do Costa Rica or something. Then I can stop working. My money will carry me quite a ways.
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 16, 2020 19:59:15 GMT -5
Well, I looked into New Zealand. Assets of at least $500K (assume pp) and a certain amount of guaranteed income. Plus you have to carry your own health insurance. And you still have to pay US federal income tax as well as NZ tax. Doable, but standard of living would probably go down. Canada's not that easy either. Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you. I don't think they do that anymore. Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there. Even I wouldn't be allowed into Australia or New Zealand, despite being from a Commonwealth country. We both have Her Majesty on our money. Speaking of which....If there's a New Zealand, then where is Zealand? Zeeland is one of the 12 Dutch provinces
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 16, 2020 20:19:23 GMT -5
I must have to do something to live as an ex-pat. Especially if I want to work. I have been assured repeatedly that ALL OTHER COUNTRIES are better at keeping out riff raff. (They never seem to have real examples, but they are so passionate, they must now be wrong.) I'm pretty sure I could live quite nicely as an ex-pat (since I grew up as one). But I don't think DH would be happy.... DH claims he wants to move to Canada but he grew up in Tennessee and has a low tolerance for cold weather. He's never lived anyplace that stays close to freezing for month (I started out in northern Ohio with the lake effect snow - I know what it feels like to have your nose hairs freeze). I don't think he'd last a whole canadian winter - but I think he'd love to be a snow bird ex-pat.
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