'Publican bill inTennessee bill says CNN/WashPo is fake news

[moon/Laura]

Of all the stupid shit...

WASHINGTON COUNTY, Tenn. (WCYB) -- State Rep. Micah Van Huss (R-Jonesborough) filed a bill in the Tennessee General Assembly that would recognize CNN and the Washington Post as "fake news."

The proposed resolution said it would recognize "CNN and the Washington Post as fake news and condemns them for denigrating our citizens."

wset.com/news/nation-world/tennessee-lawmaker-files-bill-to-recognize-cnn-washington-post-as-fake-news

[andi9899]

Really? This has reached a whole new level of stupid.

[swamp]

[moon/Laura]

Feb 14, 2020 14:05:19 GMT -5 andi9899 said:

Really? This has reached a whole new level of stupid.

right?

[bean29]

I think we are pretty much at the point where we no longer live in the land of the free.

[Tiny]

Feb 14, 2020 14:01:26 GMT -5 moon/Laura said:

Of all the stupid shit...

WASHINGTON COUNTY, Tenn. (WCYB) -- State Rep. Micah Van Huss (R-Jonesborough) filed a bill in the Tennessee General Assembly that would recognize CNN and the Washington Post as "fake news."

The proposed resolution said it would recognize "CNN and the Washington Post as fake news and condemns them for denigrating our citizens."

wset.com/news/nation-world/tennessee-lawmaker-files-bill-to-recognize-cnn-washington-post-as-fake-news

Sounds to me like a State Rep has too much time on his hands.  And that he has a staff of people doing alot of busy work.   OR maybe they weren't doing any work and he needed something that would it make it look like they did DO work.    Or maybe he needs to meet a quota for bills introduced?  Or maybe wants to be able to say he introduced X number of bills?      Maybe he should work on getting a bill that dictates the length, width, and color of ties that male State Representatives should wear when in the House.  

If he was my State Representative - I'd be wondering why he has so much time and money to spend on something that was useless to life in my state, county, and city.   I would wonder why my elected official was wasting my money on trivial stuff.   I assume Jonesborough has some more important issues for their representative to tackle.  
Maybe everyone there is super wealthy and has money to blow on "entertainment" like this?   

Maybe Tennesse doesn't have any money to PAY it's representatives to do useful things... and that's why they must make up "busy work" to make it look like they are productive?   Government seems to be a business these days... and it's important to look busy in order to keep one's job.l 

[Tiny]

Feb 14, 2020 15:13:32 GMT -5 @x said:

Feb 14, 2020 15:11:56 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I think we are pretty much at the point where we no longer live in the land of the free.

As in free to introduce a bill to a vote ? 

And how much time and money does it cost to get a bill to the point of being voted on?   Did he write this up on a paper napkin while he was eating lunch?  Or did it take weeks and lots of people's hands to get it done?    H

[mollyanna58]

And if someone else introduces a bill declaring Fox News and Breitbart to be fake news?

[weltschmerz]

Feb 14, 2020 15:57:38 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

And if someone else introduces a bill declaring Fox News and Breitbart to be fake news?

Breitbart ran a story about a "pro-Trump rally" on Parliament Hill in Ottawa. It was a large group trying to raise awareness about Lyme Disease.

(Well, I guess they're both blood-sucking ticks.)

[Tennesseer]

It will probably pass.  It's Tennessee after all.

[Tennesseer]

Here is the bill in PDF form if anyone is interested.


link

[happyhoix]

Feb 14, 2020 15:57:38 GMT -5 mollyanna58 said:

And if someone else introduces a bill declaring Fox News and Breitbart to be fake news?

It's Tennessee. I work there. Someone introduced that kind of bill they'd drag him through town behind a pick up truck and burn down his house. 

There's some aggressive red neck patriots around here. 

[dezii]

Feb 14, 2020 16:17:18 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It will probably pass.  It's Tennessee after all.

Is it really that bad Tenn?  You poor baby.....

[dezii]

Feb 14, 2020 16:18:53 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Here is the bill in PDF form if anyone is interested.


link

I wonder if after the Donald loses in 2020, if the country will see a rash of suicides by loyal members of his base...whole families in some cases...Kind of like in Germany in 1945 after the defeat there..Remember photos of Burgermeisters, Natzi leaders , unable to face a Germany with out Herr Adolf..

Methinks this political leader just might fit the bill...Just saying.

[thyme4change]

What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me?

[happyhoix]

Feb 15, 2020 9:41:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me?

You can go to almost anywhere and live as an ex-pat. It's a different thing to move somewhere and become a citizen, able to get public benefits like healthcare. Usually they want you to have a certain amount of income or net wealth, or else be young enough to work. 

I've checked. There are some very attractive places in Canada  .

[thyme4change]

Feb 15, 2020 10:10:13 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Feb 15, 2020 9:41:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me?

You can go to almost anywhere and live as an ex-pat. It's a different thing to move somewhere and become a citizen, able to get public benefits like healthcare. Usually they want you to have a certain amount of income or net wealth, or else be young enough to work. 

I've checked. There are some very attractive places in Canada  .

I must have to do something to live as an ex-pat. Especially if I want to work. I have been assured repeatedly that ALL OTHER COUNTRIES are better at keeping out riff raff. (They never seem to have real examples, but they are so passionate, they must now be wrong.)

[NastyWoman]

Feb 15, 2020 9:41:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me?

Not quite as easy as you think since you do have money. I may be quite expensive especially if you intend to give up your citizenship. The IRS does not like that one bit!

[Opti]

Feb 14, 2020 16:17:18 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It will probably pass.  It's Tennessee after all.

Bummer. 

[Opti]

Feb 16, 2020 15:24:43 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Feb 15, 2020 9:41:25 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

What does it take to legally leave this country? I have money. I am educated. My skills are transferrable. I only speak English, but I might be able to learn. Are there any countries taking in people like me?

Not quite as easy as you think since you do have money. I may be quite expensive especially if you intend to give up your citizenship. The IRS does not like that one bit!

I think since she does have money she has a better chance than I, in getting in. Isn't the going rate for say Canada or Australia a floor of $200K in assets and some "proof" that the citizen would bring a new company into the country and possibly employ people?

[Opti]

Feb 15, 2020 10:20:07 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Feb 15, 2020 10:10:13 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

You can go to almost anywhere and live as an ex-pat. It's a different thing to move somewhere and become a citizen, able to get public benefits like healthcare. Usually they want you to have a certain amount of income or net wealth, or else be young enough to work. 

I've checked. There are some very attractive places in Canada  .

I must have to do something to live as an ex-pat. Especially if I want to work. I have been assured repeatedly that ALL OTHER COUNTRIES are better at keeping out riff raff. (They never seem to have real examples, but they are so passionate, they must now be wrong.)

I'm beginning to believe they are passionate to throw us off the trail, or perhaps just deny the real reason they say and do what they do.

[Gardening Grandma]

Feb 16, 2020 16:47:03 GMT -5 Opti said:

Feb 16, 2020 15:24:43 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Not quite as easy as you think since you do have money. I may be quite expensive especially if you intend to give up your citizenship. The IRS does not like that one bit!

I think since she does have money she has a better chance than I, in getting in. Isn't the going rate for say Canada or Australia a floor of $200K in assets and some "proof" that the citizen would bring a new company into the country and possibly employ people?

Well, I looked into New Zealand.  Assets of at least $500K (assume pp) and a certain amount of guaranteed income.  Plus you have to carry your own health insurance.  And you still have to pay US federal income tax as well as NZ tax.  Doable, but standard of living would probably go down.

Canada's not that easy either.  Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you.  I don't think they do that anymore.  Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there.  

[Gardening Grandma]

Feb 15, 2020 10:20:07 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Feb 15, 2020 10:10:13 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

You can go to almost anywhere and live as an ex-pat. It's a different thing to move somewhere and become a citizen, able to get public benefits like healthcare. Usually they want you to have a certain amount of income or net wealth, or else be young enough to work. 

I've checked. There are some very attractive places in Canada  .

I must have to do something to live as an ex-pat. Especially if I want to work. I have been assured repeatedly that ALL OTHER COUNTRIES are better at keeping out riff raff. (They never seem to have real examples, but they are so passionate, they must now be wrong.)

I'm pretty sure I could live quite nicely as an ex-pat (since I grew up as one).  But I don't think DH would be happy....

[weltschmerz]

Feb 16, 2020 17:07:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Feb 16, 2020 16:47:03 GMT -5 Opti said:

I think since she does have money she has a better chance than I, in getting in. Isn't the going rate for say Canada or Australia a floor of $200K in assets and some "proof" that the citizen would bring a new company into the country and possibly employ people?

Well, I looked into New Zealand.  Assets of at least $500K (assume pp) and a certain amount of guaranteed income.  Plus you have to carry your own health insurance.  And you still have to pay US federal income tax as well as NZ tax.  Doable, but standard of living would probably go down.

Canada's not that easy either.  Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you.  I don't think they do that anymore.  Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there.  

Even I wouldn't be allowed into Australia or New Zealand, despite being from a Commonwealth country. We both have Her Majesty on our money.

Speaking of which....If there's a New Zealand, then where is Zealand?

[weltschmerz]

Canada's not that easy either. Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you. I don't think they do that anymore. Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there.

They still do.

Your relatives can live, study and work in Canada if they become permanent residents of Canada. You can sponsor certain relatives to come to Canada if you’re at least 18 years old and a:



Canadian citizen or

person registered in Canada as an Indian under the Canadian Indian Act or

permanent resident of Canada.

www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship.html

[weltschmerz]

Your responsibilities

When you sponsor a relative to become a permanent resident of Canada, you must:



meet set income guidelines

agree in writing to give financial support to your relative and any other eligible relatives coming with them:

beginning on the date they become a permanent resident

for up to 20 years (depending on their age and how you’re related)

The person you sponsor must sign an agreement saying they will make the effort to support themselves. This includes sponsored dependent children 18 or older. Dependent children under 19 don’t have to sign this agreement.

www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/other-relatives/eligibility.html

[Gardening Grandma]

Feb 16, 2020 18:12:25 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Your responsibilities

When you sponsor a relative to become a permanent resident of Canada, you must:



meet set income guidelines

agree in writing to give financial support to your relative and any other eligible relatives coming with them:

beginning on the date they become a permanent resident

for up to 20 years (depending on their age and how you’re related)

The person you sponsor must sign an agreement saying they will make the effort to support themselves. This includes sponsored dependent children 18 or older. Dependent children under 19 don’t have to sign this agreement.

www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/other-relatives/eligibility.html

Hmmmm DH has cousins. But we dont know them that well....

[thyme4change]

Feb 16, 2020 17:07:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Feb 16, 2020 16:47:03 GMT -5 Opti said:

I think since she does have money she has a better chance than I, in getting in. Isn't the going rate for say Canada or Australia a floor of $200K in assets and some "proof" that the citizen would bring a new company into the country and possibly employ people?

Well, I looked into New Zealand.  Assets of at least $500K (assume pp) and a certain amount of guaranteed income.  Plus you have to carry your own health insurance.  And you still have to pay US federal income tax as well as NZ tax.  Doable, but standard of living would probably go down.

Canada's not that easy either.  Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you.  I don't think they do that anymore.  Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there.  

Maybe I should do Costa Rica or something. Then I can stop working. My money will carry me quite a ways.

[NastyWoman]

Feb 16, 2020 18:05:33 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Feb 16, 2020 17:07:56 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Well, I looked into New Zealand.  Assets of at least $500K (assume pp) and a certain amount of guaranteed income.  Plus you have to carry your own health insurance.  And you still have to pay US federal income tax as well as NZ tax.  Doable, but standard of living would probably go down.

Canada's not that easy either.  Used to be pretty easy if you had Canadian relatives (DH does) who would sponsor you.  I don't think they do that anymore.  Anywhere you go however, you have to pay US FIT in addition to whatever you have to pay there.  

Even I wouldn't be allowed into Australia or New Zealand, despite being from a Commonwealth country. We both have Her Majesty on our money.

Speaking of which....If there's a New Zealand, then where is Zealand?

Zeeland is one of the 12 Dutch provinces

[happyhoix]

Feb 16, 2020 17:10:11 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

Feb 15, 2020 10:20:07 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I must have to do something to live as an ex-pat. Especially if I want to work. I have been assured repeatedly that ALL OTHER COUNTRIES are better at keeping out riff raff. (They never seem to have real examples, but they are so passionate, they must now be wrong.)

I'm pretty sure I could live quite nicely as an ex-pat (since I grew up as one).  But I don't think DH would be happy....

DH claims he wants to move to Canada but he grew up in Tennessee and has a low tolerance for cold weather.  He's never lived anyplace that stays close to freezing for month (I started out in northern Ohio with the lake effect snow - I know what it feels like to have your nose hairs freeze). I don't think he'd last a whole canadian winter - but I think he'd love to be a snow bird ex-pat.