Speaking of Civil War

[dondub]

  We have seen numerous comments about 'Civil War'...from a poster here currently known for seeking the destruction of the Demo party "through any means necessary", to the Oaf Creepers down OC's way with their armed to the teeth 'patriotism', and now a MLB umpire. Hoping the FBI has all of these loony tuners under surveillance.

 But what would this alleged Civil War look like? What would they do? Any chance of success? Would police and military be in on it?

 Being wayyyy up here in Seattle, with various natural barriers to invasion, even by the demented Rep. Shea's Christian Warriors from Spokane Valley, I feel quite safe. but elsewhere?

 What say you...any real concerns that these anarchists would actually do something other than make a bunch of spittle infused phone calls?

[Bob Ross]

Probably some fringe nut jobs would try to take action, but I'm thinking the incidents would be mostly isolated.  I'd be surprised if the number of hate crimes didn't increase though.  Mostly a lot of anger and spittle flying.  However, the idea of risking anything besides spit over a person like Trump is a concept so foreign to me that I'm probably not the best judge.  Whatever happens, I'm reasonably sure it'll be far short of civil war.

*waits for our resident predictor-in-chief to chime in*

[happyhoix]

The last Civil War started because one half of the country wanted the other half to give up the practice that allowed their business model (plantation agriculture) to succeed. It was the Southern 1%ers who egged on the war, because they knew they stood to lose their incomes, and the basis of their economy, if the North was successful in outlawing slavery.

That's not the case this time. Yes, a bunch of people will be pissed, but bottom line, they will still want to make sure their businesses, their jobs, their comfortable lifestyle and their property values remain intact. The 1% will be pushing very strongly against Civil War this time.

In my very rural and very Southern neck of the woods, I would expect the same guys who show up periodically in camo or Civil war uniforms would show up and wave some banners on the court house square, march around a bit, maybe burn some tiki torches, but those are the folks that don't usually have jobs, they've got nothing better to do.

[dezii]

Oct 24, 2019 13:31:44 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

The last Civil War started because one half of the country wanted the other half to give up the practice that allowed their business model (plantation agriculture) to succeed. It was the Southern 1%ers who egged on the war, because they knew they stood to lose their incomes, and the basis of their economy, if the North was successful in outlawing slavery.

That's not the case this time. Yes, a bunch of people will be pissed, but bottom line, they will still want to make sure their businesses, their jobs, their comfortable lifestyle and their property values remain intact. The 1% will be pushing very strongly against Civil War this time.

In my very rural and very Southern neck of the woods, I would expect the same guys who show up periodically in camo or Civil war uniforms would show up and wave some banners on the court house square, march around a bit, maybe burn some tiki torches, but those are the folks that don't usually have jobs, they've got nothing better to do.

  If there were seriouse threats, I expect US Marshalls..FBI...just possible if needed..National Guard units would quickly take care of the problem....

Our military not legally able to operate in the States...National guard units are different and I know a few US Marshalls...even back in the day..younger, fitter..trained, a bad ass.....I would not want to tangle with those folks...Just saying.

[countrygirl2]

I don't know, hubs said no way can be stopped quick. However, remember we are dealing with trump, I think he would do everything in his power to stir it up and drag his feet in every way to keep from stopping it.  He is cleaning out expertise in all his cabinet areas. He is putting in thugs and hard right wing people.  So don't be so sure this cannot happen.  I think he will add a bunch of jack booted thugs soon as he can, the 20 or so we saw going through here flying trump flags and federate flags would be some of the thugs that would do bad things with his blessing.


If laws were followed no, as it is, Mr Dictator loves his supreme power and the repubs are giving it to him.  I think they will live to regret it, but they are.

[busymom]

I'm not sure we have enough "sane" people in this part of the country.  Just last week, we had about 20 people standing at a corner, wearing MAGA hats & holding signs that said stuff like "honk if you love Trump".  I had to pass that intersection 4 times that day, but, on the positive side, I only heard one car "honk".  

[spartyparty]

I'm thinking there would be lots of friendly fire on the confederate side...

[kadee79]

Ok folks, I'm down here in bright RED country.  We hear fully automatic weapons being used every now/then....yes, like a machine gun.  So we know for sure there are at least 2 of them in this area.
We are armed & will protect ourselves...so don't come unannounced.  There would likely be lots of skirmishes & most would likely run off before LE got here.  Other than that & trying to do dirty tricks after dark...who knows.

I could see an actual shooting war happening in some areas.  But I don't think the military will go with DT....not from what I've seen & heard any way.  

[Tennesseer]

If the Bowling Green massacre is any indication, I expect no less loss of life than 100 million Americans.  

[Value Buy]

I am getting a good chuckle on this thread. How many of these are we going have to hand out?

[Opti]

Oct 24, 2019 13:14:07 GMT -5 dondub said:

  We have seen numerous comments about 'Civil War'...from a poster here currently known for seeking the destruction of the Demo party "through any means necessary", to the Oaf Creepers down OC's way with their armed to the teeth 'patriotism', and now a MLB umpire. Hoping the FBI has all of these loony tuners under surveillance.

 But what would this alleged Civil War look like? What would they do? Any chance of success? Would police and military be in on it?

 Being wayyyy up here in Seattle, with various natural barriers to invasion, even by the demented Rep. Shea's Christian Warriors from Spokane Valley, I feel quite safe. but elsewhere?

 What say you...any real concerns that these anarchists would actually do something other than make a bunch of spittle infused phone calls?

I don't know. I think my area would be safe, but hate crimes have been up especially in nearby NYC. People appearing transgender and Jews seem to be preferred targets.

Personally I'd rather see a walk off on a cat walk of Trump versus Ceval Omar the black Swedish transgender model. Possibly because it would piss him off and he's hate almost everything about her. #CevalWar #CevalWar   

[hurley1980]

I'm curious how the Trumpets would know who the liberals are against who the conservatives are.  Would they demand that anyone who wants to live has to wear a MAGA hat?  There is nothing about my personal appearance that says I'm a liberal....

[Tiny]

I'm not sure civilians with assault rifles (and whatever other armaments they have stashed away) would do more than local skirmishes.   To  have a Civil War - you need the ability to move one's troops while retaining a hold on whatever areas you've "captured".      which assumes you've got communications, mobility and alot of warm bodies.    If you can't hold the areas you've captured you can't win the war.      The local 'militias' seem more like they'd be capable of  guerilla warfare rather than being an actual army/actual battles than anything else.     I suspect the locals would fall quickly to actual military involvement. 

And if the guerillas do take over - I'd hope they had a really strong network and a vast number of followers... I don't think they could hold a large city of people who didn't want to be held (I know some very versitile and clever  people who wouldn't need guns to do damage to an "armed force" that wasn't paying enough attention.)     Don't under estimate city dwellers. 

 

[billisonboard]

Oct 24, 2019 17:26:11 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

I'm curious how the Trumpets would know who the liberals are against who the conservatives are.  Would they demand that anyone who wants to live has to wear a MAGA hat?  There is nothing about my personal appearance that says I'm a liberal....

That red head wear you have on has liberal all over it.