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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 24, 2019 16:35:57 GMT -5
It's going down.
"Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel released the following statement in response to Joe Biden’s baseless call for impeachment: 'Now that the President has authorized the release of the transcript of his call with President Zelensky, we call on Biden to release the transcripts of his calls as Vice President with Ukrainian and Chinese leaders while his son was conducting shady business deals in those countries.'”
President Trump has repeatedly stated that this should never happen to another President. Unelected officials in government are not afforded oversight over the President Of The United States. They are not permitted to spy on the President for any reason, they have no authority to investigate the President, and they do not qualify for "whistleblower" status within the intelligence community. PERIOD.
I strongly suspect President Trump became aware of a continuing deep state operation spying on and illegally working to undermine his presidency.
I think that President Trump and key trusted advisors prepared a trap to expose the deep state operation, tee up the investigation into Biden's racketeering scheme to exploit his public office for personal gain, and I think that there are going to be indictments, frogmarches in handcuffs and long prison terms.
I don't think Trump was ever screwing around on this topic and I never saw this man whom we have observed in the spotlight for almost 40 years has ever intended to let the deep state off the hook.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 24, 2019 17:58:30 GMT -5
Always interesting to read predictions from you.
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Post by busymom on Sept 24, 2019 18:20:09 GMT -5
Why are you surprised that it's "going down"? Trump has been ignoring rules probably most of his life, and making his own rules. That doesn't work in politics. There are limitations, and he's about to learn there are consequences for going over the line.
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Post by mollyc on Sept 24, 2019 18:22:02 GMT -5
Is this prediction from the same 2 psychic evangelicals that claimed God told them there would be a red tsunami in the 2018 elections? They are the only original sources for the Red Tsunami that I was able to find when I looked.
Or is this prediction from the "Q" experts who use the phrases "I think", "I believe" and "I understand this to mean" a lot and not many facts.
Asking for a friend.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 24, 2019 18:50:35 GMT -5
... President Trump and key trusted advisors ... Does he have any of these? |
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 24, 2019 19:17:36 GMT -5
I think that President Trump and key trusted advisors prepared a trap to expose the deep state operation, tee up the investigation into Biden's racketeering scheme to exploit his public office for personal gain, and I think that there are going to be indictments, frogmarches in handcuffs and long prison terms.
You're delusional. Trump IS NOT SMART ENOUGH to trap a raccoon. He can't even figure out how to close an umbrella.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 24, 2019 19:32:09 GMT -5
I think that President Trump and key trusted advisors prepared a trap to expose the deep state operation, tee up the investigation into Biden's racketeering scheme to exploit his public office for personal gain, and I think that there are going to be indictments, frogmarches in handcuffs and long prison terms.
You're delusional. Trump IS NOT SMART ENOUGH to trap a raccoon. He can't even figure out how to close an umbrella. If you actually believe this, you're mistaken. Badly. |
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Post by kadee79 on Sept 24, 2019 19:56:48 GMT -5
I think that President Trump and key trusted advisors prepared a trap to expose the deep state operation, tee up the investigation into Biden's racketeering scheme to exploit his public office for personal gain, and I think that there are going to be indictments, frogmarches in handcuffs and long prison terms.
You're delusional. Trump IS NOT SMART ENOUGH to trap a raccoon. He can't even figure out how to close an umbrella. If you actually believe this, you're mistaken. Badly.  |
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 24, 2019 20:08:49 GMT -5
I think that President Trump and key trusted advisors prepared a trap to expose the deep state operation, tee up the investigation into Biden's racketeering scheme to exploit his public office for personal gain, and I think that there are going to be indictments, frogmarches in handcuffs and long prison terms.
You're delusional. Trump IS NOT SMART ENOUGH to trap a raccoon. He can't even figure out how to close an umbrella. If you actually believe this, you're mistaken. Badly. Lol! The pathological liar and ignoramus actually thought that stealth aircraft are invisible to the naked eye, and he's going to cook up a complicated and elaborate TRAP? If YOU actually believe this, YOU'RE mistaken. Badly. |
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Post by sesfw on Sept 24, 2019 20:19:08 GMT -5
If YOU actually believe this, YOU'RE mistaken. Badly.
Seeing as how you live in Canada, why do you care?
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Post by oped on Sept 24, 2019 20:20:45 GMT -5
A transcript is not the whistleblower report. And the ENTIRE Senate just voted for its release.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 24, 2019 20:30:22 GMT -5
If YOU actually believe this, YOU'RE mistaken. Badly.Seeing as how you live in Canada, why do you care? ....because that bloated bastard affects the whole world. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 24, 2019 20:59:49 GMT -5
A transcript is not the whistleblower report. And the ENTIRE Senate just voted for its release. Um, yeah. This doesn't concern you? |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 24, 2019 21:20:34 GMT -5
If YOU actually believe this, YOU'RE mistaken. Badly.Seeing as how you live in Canada, why do you care?  |
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Post by oped on Sept 25, 2019 0:01:38 GMT -5
Does trump calling pelosi to ask if they could ‘work things out’ bother you?
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Post by countrygirl2 on Sept 25, 2019 6:52:15 GMT -5
Yes, that bothers me, tells me he knows they have something on him. Whether we will ever be given the information or not, I wonder. They seem to be able to go around all laws and ignore them. Why don't they jail people for ignoring subpoenas, the congress has the power to do that.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 25, 2019 7:20:55 GMT -5
President Trump has repeatedly stated that this should never happen to another President. Unelected officials in government are not afforded oversight over the President Of The United States. They are not permitted to spy on the President for any reason, they have no authority to investigate the President, and they do not qualify for "whistleblower" status within the intelligence community. PERIOD.
Please quote where you found that law. Not from a blog or a quasi right wing news site - I mean quote where no one but elected officials are allowed to be whistleblowers, and no one has the authority to investigate the president.
I'll go first. From Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower_Protection_Act
The Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989, 5 U.S.C. 2302(b)(8)-(9), Pub.L. 101-12 as amended, is a United States federal law that protects federal whistleblowers who work for the government and report the possible existence of an activity constituting a violation of law, rules, or regulations, or mismanagement, gross waste of funds, abuse of authority or a substantial and specific danger to public health and safety. A federal agency violates the Whistleblower Protection Act if agency authorities take (or threaten to take) retaliatory personnel action against any employee or applicant because of disclosure of information by that employee or applicant.[1]
Doesn't mention anything about the President being exempt from whistleblower complaints, nor does it state that the intelligence community is not allowed to have whistleblowers. In fact, the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act and Presidential Policy Directive 19 specifically states those federal employees serving in the intelligence Community are protected.
You are falling into Trump's dangerous and treasonous belief that the president of the United States is not accountable to anyone, cannot commit illegal acts because he is above the law, and to question what he does is un-American at best and treasonous at worst. That belief if itself un-American and treasonous, and I am 100% certain if Obama did anything one tenth as serious as this, you would be calling not just for him to be impeached, but for him to be frog marched to the street and shot at dawn.
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Post by swamp on Sept 25, 2019 8:18:55 GMT -5
If YOU actually believe this, YOU'RE mistaken. Badly.Seeing as how you live in Canada, why do you care? If the elephant that lives right next to you has a really bad case of intestinal distress, you'd care. That is very shortsighted of you. |
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Post by swamp on Sept 25, 2019 8:20:20 GMT -5
Does trump calling pelosi to ask if they could ‘work things out’ bother you? If it was over an infrastructure bill or some other bill that benefits the country, I'd applaud him. If it's to squash the impeachment probe, that bothers me. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 25, 2019 10:48:42 GMT -5
Does trump calling pelosi to ask if they could ‘work things out’ bother you? We don't have a shred of evidence this even happened. |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 25, 2019 10:52:47 GMT -5
I just read that transcript. It's essentially a Trump campaign rally document- but with real life examples of Trump following through on his promises.
Democrats got played.
There are internal documents that are meant to be internal and there are internal documents that are carefully crafted such that when they are "discovered" they can be broadcast in Times Square and only have a positive effect.
Now the world is seeing that Trump "in private" is the same Trump as on the campaign trail...
... And Democrats DEMANDED that this be distributed to everyone.
So, basically all that's happened is:
1. Ongoing spying has been exposed and a spy outed
2. Trying to turn Ukraine into Collusion 2.0 served only to expose Biden family corruption with very likely discernable Obama knowledge
3. Trump just got the DNC propaganda media to distribute 2020 campaign literature.
You will never convince me that this wasn't a setup from the start.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 25, 2019 10:58:16 GMT -5
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 25, 2019 11:07:15 GMT -5
I just read that transcript. It's essentially a Trump campaign rally document- but with real life examples of Trump following through on his promises. Democrats got played. There are internal documents that are meant to be internal and there are internal documents that are carefully crafted such that when they are "discovered" they can be broadcast in Times Square and only have a positive effect. Now the world is seeing that Trump "in private" is the same Trump as on the campaign trail... ... And Democrats DEMANDED that this be distributed to everyone. So, basically all that's happened is: 1. Ongoing spying has been exposed and a spy outed 2. Trying to turn Ukraine into Collusion 2.0 served only to expose Biden family corruption with very likely discernable Obama knowledge 3. Trump just got the DNC propaganda media to distribute 2020 campaign literature. You will never convince me that this wasn't a setup from the start. I haven't seen a journalistic source cite any Biden family corruption - in fact, I've seen a lot of sources showing that Trump claimed corruption, but none has ever been proven, like this one from the AP: www.apnews.com/9d4595ba4f3140c6bb6a3473a91f4a4c Do you have a credible journalistic source that says something different? Or an discernable Obama knowledge? Or are we just relying on the nuthouse fall back position that all dems are dirty, stupid and unpatriotic, so therefore this must have actually happened?
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 25, 2019 11:07:20 GMT -5
OAN seems to be the new go-to place for conspiracies. Alas poor Breitbart.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 25, 2019 11:08:30 GMT -5
Does trump calling pelosi to ask if they could ‘work things out’ bother you? We don't have a shred of evidence this even happened. LOL. "We" |
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 25, 2019 11:12:54 GMT -5
We don't have a shred of evidence this even happened. LOL. "We" you mean the Biden thing, right? |
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 25, 2019 11:18:49 GMT -5
I just read that transcript. It's essentially a Trump campaign rally document- but with real life examples of Trump following through on his promises. Democrats got played. There are internal documents that are meant to be internal and there are internal documents that are carefully crafted such that when they are "discovered" they can be broadcast in Times Square and only have a positive effect. Now the world is seeing that Trump "in private" is the same Trump as on the campaign trail... ... And Democrats DEMANDED that this be distributed to everyone. So, basically all that's happened is: 1. Ongoing spying has been exposed and a spy outed 2. Trying to turn Ukraine into Collusion 2.0 served only to expose Biden family corruption with very likely discernable Obama knowledge 3. Trump just got the DNC propaganda media to distribute 2020 campaign literature. You will never convince me that this wasn't a setup from the start. I haven't seen a journalistic source cite any Biden family corruption - in fact, I've seen a lot of sources showing that Trump claimed corruption, but none has ever been proven, like this one from the AP: www.apnews.com/9d4595ba4f3140c6bb6a3473a91f4a4c Do you have a credible journalistic source that says something different? Or an discernable Obama knowledge? Or are we just relying on the nuthouse fall back position that all dems are dirty, stupid and unpatriotic, so therefore this must have actually happened? What rock do you live under? Joe Biden sat in front of the media admitting to his corruption for all to see. Did you seriously miss it? However, to really get to the bottom of things we're going to have to see the transcripts of Joe Biden's calls with Ukraine. Dims. They failed to see the consequences of what they were asking. |
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 25, 2019 11:25:55 GMT -5
I haven't seen a journalistic source cite any Biden family corruption - in fact, I've seen a lot of sources showing that Trump claimed corruption, but none has ever been proven, like this one from the AP: www.apnews.com/9d4595ba4f3140c6bb6a3473a91f4a4c Do you have a credible journalistic source that says something different? Or an discernable Obama knowledge? Or are we just relying on the nuthouse fall back position that all dems are dirty, stupid and unpatriotic, so therefore this must have actually happened? What rock do you live under? Joe Biden sat in front of the media admitting to his corruption for all to see. Did you seriously miss it? However, to really get to the bottom of things we're going to have to see the transcripts of Joe Biden's calls with Ukraine. Dims. They failed to see the consequences of what they were asking. You still haven't produced a link to a credible source - if Biden did sit in front of the media and admit his corruption, surely there is a transcript or video of that you can link to.
If you're referring to the fact that Biden pressured the Ukraine to fire a corrupt prosecutor - Biden and a bunch of other world leaders, plus the world bank, all pressured the Ukraine to get rid of that guy in order to FIGHT CORRUPTION - something I thought you were applauding Trump for doing? By the way, I can produce many links to journalistic sites discussing that corrupt prosecutor and why so many international people wanted him gone - plus explaining how that had nothing to do with Biden's kid's work on the gas company board.
I'll show my links, but first, I want you to post one legitimate, not far right wing drunk uncle or blog or pretend news site link showing Biden admitting his corruption for all to see.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Sept 25, 2019 12:12:26 GMT -5
What rock do you live under? Joe Biden sat in front of the media admitting to his corruption for all to see. Did you seriously miss it? However, to really get to the bottom of things we're going to have to see the transcripts of Joe Biden's calls with Ukraine. Dims. They failed to see the consequences of what they were asking. You still haven't produced a link to a credible source - if Biden did sit in front of the media and admit his corruption, surely there is a transcript or video of that you can link to.
If you're referring to the fact that Biden pressured the Ukraine to fire a corrupt prosecutor - Biden and a bunch of other world leaders, plus the world bank, all pressured the Ukraine to get rid of that guy in order to FIGHT CORRUPTION - something I thought you were applauding Trump for doing? By the way, I can produce many links to journalistic sites discussing that corrupt prosecutor and why so many international people wanted him gone - plus explaining how that had nothing to do with Biden's kid's work on the gas company board.
I'll show my links, but first, I want you to post one legitimate, not far right wing drunk uncle or blog or pretend news site link showing Biden admitting his corruption for all to see. While I agree with you completely that Biden is not a credible source and that he probably would actually make up having committed a serious crime, it at least deserves to be investigated. |
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 25, 2019 13:54:51 GMT -5
You still haven't produced a link to a credible source - if Biden did sit in front of the media and admit his corruption, surely there is a transcript or video of that you can link to.
If you're referring to the fact that Biden pressured the Ukraine to fire a corrupt prosecutor - Biden and a bunch of other world leaders, plus the world bank, all pressured the Ukraine to get rid of that guy in order to FIGHT CORRUPTION - something I thought you were applauding Trump for doing? By the way, I can produce many links to journalistic sites discussing that corrupt prosecutor and why so many international people wanted him gone - plus explaining how that had nothing to do with Biden's kid's work on the gas company board.
I'll show my links, but first, I want you to post one legitimate, not far right wing drunk uncle or blog or pretend news site link showing Biden admitting his corruption for all to see. While I agree with you completely that Biden is not a credible source and that he probably would actually make up having committed a serious crime, it at least deserves to be investigated. It has been. Nothing corrupt or illegal discovered. I can provide links to actual journalistic sources to prove it.
That's not what Trump wants to hear, though. He beat the whole 'emails and Benghazi' dead horse during the 2016 election, beating his minions into a frenzy with 'lock her up' - further helped by Comey releasing that statement about finding more emails right before the election.
Trump knows he needs another dead horse if he's going to have a chance in hell to win the 2020 election. Something even better than the Crooked Hillary angle - so he's been reduced to unconstitutional mob-like threats against other nations to force them to gin up some scandal he can use to rally his minions with this time. Thought he could get away with it, with his good toady Barr in his pocket - damn that whistleblower, right? 
Sad thing is, those poor gullible minions will once again fall for his bullshit hook, line and sinker.
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