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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 16, 2019 13:05:51 GMT -5
Strange that Nancy decided to announce she would not have the House do a formal impeachment vote procedure right before tonight's debate. Wondering if she realizes Schiff and company sold her down the river, or she wanted to keep the debate from getting crazy tonight alienating American voters against the democrats in 2020. Nancy is pretty smart....she knows that since DT has no direct knowledge of what is being said in the closed hearings is driving DT nuts ...and his lawyers. I'd love to see Rudy put behind bars for ignoring his subpoena. He is a joke!...a bad joke. I want to see Rudy hauled in front of Congress in handcuffs screaming all the while that he's a hero. The mental image is awesome.
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Post by swamp on Oct 16, 2019 14:09:59 GMT -5
I remember Rudy as the SDNY prosecutor who brought down the Gambino crime family. I also remember him as a competent mayor of NYC, and a forceful leader after 9/11. I'm sad to see that a once competent attorney has morphed into a buffoon.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 16, 2019 14:12:19 GMT -5
I would not be surprised to find out when all this is over that he has severe dementia.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 16, 2019 15:29:33 GMT -5
I would not be surprised to find out when all this is over that he has severe dementia. Who - Rudy or Trump? Or is it a package deal?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 16, 2019 15:44:39 GMT -5
I would not be surprised to find out when all this is over that he has severe dementia. Who - Rudy or Trump? Or is it a package deal?
Right now bets are on Rudy. I am not sure about Trump or if he's just that deep of a narcissist.
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Post by dondub on Oct 16, 2019 16:06:49 GMT -5
Murder might be a bit strong.
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 16, 2019 16:10:15 GMT -5
Well, of course! Look at his shit-eating grin and thumbs-up pose while holding the orphaned baby whose parents were killed in a mass shooting.
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Post by moon/Laura on Oct 16, 2019 16:40:51 GMT -5
Murder might be a bit strong. Perhaps. Maybe a simple "killed by" would have been better.
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Post by dondub on Oct 16, 2019 16:54:38 GMT -5
I think swamp would only go as far as manslaughter and even said she was aware of accidental auto deaths where the driver was not charged.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 16, 2019 16:55:24 GMT -5
I started a thread on the Politics board about this several hours ago.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 16, 2019 16:58:37 GMT -5
Nancy is pretty smart....she knows that since DT has no direct knowledge of what is being said in the closed hearings is driving DT nuts ...and his lawyers. I'd love to see Rudy put behind bars for ignoring his subpoena. He is a joke!...a bad joke. I want to see Rudy hauled in front of Congress in handcuffs screaming all the while that he's a hero. The mental image is awesome. SATIRE ‘You’ll Never Take Me Alive!’ Shouts Giuliani Jumping Onto Chandelier And Immediately Falling 3 StoriesNEW YORK—Leaping from a bannister on the upper story of a Manhattan luxury hotel, the president’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani reportedly shouted “you’ll never take me alive!” Wednesday before jumping towards a chandelier and immediately falling three stories onto the floor below. “Good luck catching me as I disappear like a ghost in the wind—ha, ha, you can’t catch someone who never existed! Sayonara, suckers,” said the former New York City mayor, who, moments before, had scrambled up the hotel’s guardrail after watching a CNN report implicating him in the Trump Ukraine scandal, his fingers grazing the very bottom of the ornate light fixture as he plummeted downward, smashing into the marble floor with a dull, wet thud. “Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck. Oh god, my fucking back. It hurts so bad. Ah, Jesus Christ.” Rest of article here: ‘You’ll Never Take Me Alive!’ Shouts Giuliani Jumping Onto Chandelier And Immediately Falling 3 Stories
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Post by weltschmerz on Oct 16, 2019 17:42:00 GMT -5
I want to see Rudy hauled in front of Congress in handcuffs screaming all the while that he's a hero. The mental image is awesome. SATIRE ‘You’ll Never Take Me Alive!’ Shouts Giuliani Jumping Onto Chandelier And Immediately Falling 3 StoriesNEW YORK—Leaping from a bannister on the upper story of a Manhattan luxury hotel, the president’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani reportedly shouted “you’ll never take me alive!” Wednesday before jumping towards a chandelier and immediately falling three stories onto the floor below. “Good luck catching me as I disappear like a ghost in the wind—ha, ha, you can’t catch someone who never existed! Sayonara, suckers,” said the former New York City mayor, who, moments before, had scrambled up the hotel’s guardrail after watching a CNN report implicating him in the Trump Ukraine scandal, his fingers grazing the very bottom of the ornate light fixture as he plummeted downward, smashing into the marble floor with a dull, wet thud. “Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck. Oh god, my fucking back. It hurts so bad. Ah, Jesus Christ.” Rest of article here: ‘You’ll Never Take Me Alive!’ Shouts Giuliani Jumping Onto Chandelier And Immediately Falling 3 StoriesTrump will be grossed out by the blood, and worried more about the marble floors than an injured Giuliani. Donald Trump Shared a Hilarious Story About Not Wanting to Help a Dying Man www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-howard-stern-story
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 17, 2019 10:04:48 GMT -5
I want to see Rudy hauled in front of Congress in handcuffs screaming all the while that he's a hero. The mental image is awesome. SATIRE ‘You’ll Never Take Me Alive!’ Shouts Giuliani Jumping Onto Chandelier And Immediately Falling 3 StoriesNEW YORK—Leaping from a bannister on the upper story of a Manhattan luxury hotel, the president’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani reportedly shouted “you’ll never take me alive!” Wednesday before jumping towards a chandelier and immediately falling three stories onto the floor below. “Good luck catching me as I disappear like a ghost in the wind—ha, ha, you can’t catch someone who never existed! Sayonara, suckers,” said the former New York City mayor, who, moments before, had scrambled up the hotel’s guardrail after watching a CNN report implicating him in the Trump Ukraine scandal, his fingers grazing the very bottom of the ornate light fixture as he plummeted downward, smashing into the marble floor with a dull, wet thud. “Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck. Oh god, my fucking back. It hurts so bad. Ah, Jesus Christ.” Rest of article here: ‘You’ll Never Take Me Alive!’ Shouts Giuliani Jumping Onto Chandelier And Immediately Falling 3 StoriesPhew - that was a good laugh - Borowitz is awesome.
What makes him so brilliant is that his stuff is always just one hair off of 'possible' - reading this, I thought it isn't so far fetched to imagine Giuliani doing this. He seems to be barely clinging to reality lately, especially when it comes to imaging himself the 'hero' of this situation.
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Post by justme on Oct 17, 2019 11:14:10 GMT -5
I remember Rudy as the SDNY prosecutor who brought down the Gambino crime family. I also remember him as a competent mayor of NYC, and a forceful leader after 9/11. I'm sad to see that a once competent attorney has morphed into a buffoon. Ok, it's not just me then. I was seriously questioning what I remembered about him from back in the day. I was much younger and states away so only saw it on national news...but I didn't remember him ever being so deranged.
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Post by tallguy on Oct 17, 2019 11:21:17 GMT -5
I remember Rudy as the SDNY prosecutor who brought down the Gambino crime family. I also remember him as a competent mayor of NYC, and a forceful leader after 9/11. I'm sad to see that a once competent attorney has morphed into a buffoon. Ok, it's not just me then. I was seriously questioning what I remembered about him from back in the day. I was much younger and states away so only saw it on national news...but I didn't remember him ever being so deranged. He will forever be the poster child for how to squander great public goodwill and destroy a reputation.
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Post by swamp on Oct 17, 2019 11:24:49 GMT -5
I remember Rudy as the SDNY prosecutor who brought down the Gambino crime family. I also remember him as a competent mayor of NYC, and a forceful leader after 9/11. I'm sad to see that a once competent attorney has morphed into a buffoon. Ok, it's not just me then. I was seriously questioning what I remembered about him from back in the day. I was much younger and states away so only saw it on national news...but I didn't remember him ever being so deranged. I always thought he was a pompous ass, but I didn't question his sanity, his intelligence, or his competence.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 17, 2019 11:25:34 GMT -5
Ok, it's not just me then. I was seriously questioning what I remembered about him from back in the day. I was much younger and states away so only saw it on national news...but I didn't remember him ever being so deranged. He will forever be the poster child for how to squander great public goodwill and destroy a reputation. he was already more than halfway there when he squandered his front runner chances at becoming president.
I was astonished at how bizarre he was as a candidate. every chance he had, he hid behind the shadows of the twin towers. he simply could not stop talking about 911. it poisoned his mind. it turned him mad, imo. shattered him.
he needs professional help. he won't get it.
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Post by Tennesseer on Oct 17, 2019 15:59:53 GMT -5
So there was a quid pro quo in regards to the Ukraine. Doesn't really matter why there was at this point. trump denied there was ever a quid pro quo. Mulvaney says there was a quid pro quo in Trump holding back military aid to Ukraine — but it did not relate to Biden probe
Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Thursday that President Donald Trump — who is facing an impeachment inquiry because of controversial contacts with Ukraine — did not withhold congressionally appropriated military aid to Ukraine as part of a quid pro quo to get that country to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden. Instead, Mulvaney told reporters that the withholding of aid this summer was due in part because Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the possibility that elements in that country somehow had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Trump’s detriment. “The money held up had absolutely nothing to do with Biden,” Mulvaney said. Instead, he said, the withholding of aid came in connection with “an ongoing investigation into the 2016 election,” and the possibility that a Democratic National Committee server that investigators have said was hacked by Russian agents ended up in Ukraine. Rest of article here: Mulvaney says there was a quid pro quo in Trump holding back military aid to Ukraine — but it did not relate to Biden probe
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 17, 2019 16:10:44 GMT -5
So there was a quid pro quo in regards to the Ukraine. Doesn't really matter why there was at this point. trump denied there was ever a quid pro quo. Mulvaney says there was a quid pro quo in Trump holding back military aid to Ukraine — but it did not relate to Biden probe
Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Thursday that President Donald Trump — who is facing an impeachment inquiry because of controversial contacts with Ukraine — did not withhold congressionally appropriated military aid to Ukraine as part of a quid pro quo to get that country to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden. Instead, Mulvaney told reporters that the withholding of aid this summer was due in part because Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the possibility that elements in that country somehow had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Trump’s detriment. “The money held up had absolutely nothing to do with Biden,” Mulvaney said. Instead, he said, the withholding of aid came in connection with “an ongoing investigation into the 2016 election,” and the possibility that a Democratic National Committee server that investigators have said was hacked by Russian agents ended up in Ukraine. Rest of article here: Mulvaney says there was a quid pro quo in Trump holding back military aid to Ukraine — but it did not relate to Biden probeSomeone needs to explain to me why Trump would care if the hacked DNC server was in the Ukraine - and care enough he would withhold federal funds to find out.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 17, 2019 16:26:12 GMT -5
So there was a quid pro quo in regards to the Ukraine. Doesn't really matter why there was at this point. trump denied there was ever a quid pro quo. Mulvaney says there was a quid pro quo in Trump holding back military aid to Ukraine — but it did not relate to Biden probe
Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Thursday that President Donald Trump — who is facing an impeachment inquiry because of controversial contacts with Ukraine — did not withhold congressionally appropriated military aid to Ukraine as part of a quid pro quo to get that country to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden. Instead, Mulvaney told reporters that the withholding of aid this summer was due in part because Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the possibility that elements in that country somehow had interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Trump’s detriment. “The money held up had absolutely nothing to do with Biden,” Mulvaney said. Instead, he said, the withholding of aid came in connection with “an ongoing investigation into the 2016 election,” and the possibility that a Democratic National Committee server that investigators have said was hacked by Russian agents ended up in Ukraine. Rest of article here: Mulvaney says there was a quid pro quo in Trump holding back military aid to Ukraine — but it did not relate to Biden probeSomeone needs to explain to me why Trump would care if the hacked DNC server was in the Ukraine - and care enough he would withhold federal funds to find out.
either he doesn't care, and hopes others will believe it, or he is drawing it from the same feed that gave us Pizzagate.
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Post by dondub on Oct 17, 2019 17:00:09 GMT -5
Just one of his deflections for getting caught messing around in the Ukraine. I've already seen him claim he has the presidential right to go after corruption, just not his own.
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Post by Opti on Oct 17, 2019 17:38:15 GMT -5
Someone needs to explain to me why Trump would care if the hacked DNC server was in the Ukraine - and care enough he would withhold federal funds to find out.
either he doesn't care, and hopes others will believe it, or he is drawing it from the same feed that gave us Pizzagate. Exactly. Because I've noticed at least one conservative poster who equates the two instead of remembering Ukraine and Russia are not friends.
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Post by dondub on Oct 18, 2019 0:38:41 GMT -5
Bill Kristol has now called for Trump’s impeachment. Hard to find a better history as a Repo-Con than him.
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Post by dezii on Oct 18, 2019 3:10:26 GMT -5
I remember Rudy as the SDNY prosecutor who brought down the Gambino crime family. I also remember him as a competent mayor of NYC, and a forceful leader after 9/11. I'm sad to see that a once competent attorney has morphed into a buffoon. All of the above is true....My thinking is he was interested in gaining some financial independence...approaching that of those he associated with and on that he has reached that area. Just saying.... ============================== Before September 11, Giuliani's assets were estimated to be somewhat less than $2 million, but his net worth could now be as high as 30 times that amount. He has made most of his money since leaving office.
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Post by happyhoix on Oct 18, 2019 7:26:16 GMT -5
Someone needs to explain to me why Trump would care if the hacked DNC server was in the Ukraine - and care enough he would withhold federal funds to find out.
either he doesn't care, and hopes others will believe it, or he is drawing it from the same feed that gave us Pizzagate. Actually I found out why Trump's minions were pressing the Ukraine to come up with the DNC server evidence - Trump is trying desperately to prove that Russia did NOT hack the 2016 election in his favor. He's trying to dig up proof that it was the Ukraine (who is clearly not friends with Russia) who hacked into the DNC server, and NOT Russia (contrary to what all our intelligence, and the intelligence branches of all our allies, know to be true).
There is apparently some dark hat/deep throat bonzo conspiracy theory going around that somehow the Dems made it LOOK as if Russia was behind the 2016 election hacking to help Trump get elected, and Trump will embrace any bizzaro theory that might make him look good.
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Post by kadee79 on Oct 18, 2019 9:55:58 GMT -5
^^^That's what I've read too...don't remember where though.
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Post by djAdvocate on Oct 18, 2019 10:17:13 GMT -5
either he doesn't care, and hopes others will believe it, or he is drawing it from the same feed that gave us Pizzagate. Actually I found out why Trump's minions were pressing the Ukraine to come up with the DNC server evidence - Trump is trying desperately to prove that Russia did NOT hack the 2016 election in his favor. He's trying to dig up proof that it was the Ukraine (who is clearly not friends with Russia) who hacked into the DNC server, and NOT Russia (contrary to what all our intelligence, and the intelligence branches of all our allies, know to be true).
There is apparently some dark hat/deep throat bonzo conspiracy theory going around that somehow the Dems made it LOOK as if Russia was behind the 2016 election hacking to help Trump get elected, and Trump will embrace any bizzaro theory that might make him look good.
wow. that would be amazing if Democrats did that.
is there anything Democrats can't do?
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Post by kadee79 on Oct 18, 2019 10:39:15 GMT -5
Where did I read a few months ago that some old "prophet" had a vision that the 45th President of the US would be shot/killed? This prediction was supposed to have been done about 100 yrs. ago.
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