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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 23, 2019 0:31:31 GMT -5
How much money has Puerto Rico received since Hurricane Maria? Tropical storm Karen set it sights on Puerto Rico. soon to be a hurricane. How many tropical storms or Hurricanes affect Puerto Rico, Tropical Depression Nine (2003) Tropical Depression Fifteen (1970) Great Hurricane of 1780 1804 Antigua–Charleston hurricane 1867 San Narciso hurricane 1876 San Felipe hurricane 1899 San Ciriaco hurricane 1928 Okeechobee hurricane 1930 Dominican Republic hurricane 1932 San Ciprian hurricane A Hurricane Allen B Hurricane Bertha (1996) Hurricane Bertha (2014) Hurricane Betsy (1956) Tropical Storm Bonnie (2010) C Hurricane Carmen Tropical Storm Christine (1973) Hurricane Cristobal D Hurricane David Tropical Storm Dean (2001) Hurricane Dean Hurricane Debby (1982) Hurricane Debby (2000) Hurricane Donna E Hurricane Earl (2010) Effects of Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico Hurricane Eloise Tropical Storm Emily (2011) Tropical Storm Erika (2009) Tropical Storm Erika F Hurricane Faith Hurricane Frederic G Hurricane Georges Effects of Hurricane Georges in Puerto Rico Hurricane Gilbert Tropical Storm Gordon (2018) Hurricane Greta (1956) H Hurricane Hortense Hurricane Hugo I Hurricane Inez Hurricane Irene Hurricane Irma Effects of Hurricane Ivan in the Greater Antilles J Hurricane Jeanne Effects of Hurricane Jeanne in Puerto Rico Hurricane Jose (1999) K Hurricane Klaus (1984) Hurricane Kyle (2008) L Hurricane Lenny Hurricane Luis M Hurricane Maria Hurricane Maria death toll controversy Hurricane Marilyn N Hurricane Noel O Tropical Storm Olga (2007) Hurricane Otto (2010) R Hurricane Rafael
We tax payers give them money to rebuild after each of these?
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 23, 2019 3:25:09 GMT -5
How much money has Puerto Rico received since Hurricane Maria? Tropical storm Karen set it sights on Puerto Rico. soon to be a hurricane. How many tropical storms or Hurricanes affect Puerto Rico, We tax payers give them money to rebuild after each of these?
Can you put together a list of all storms that have hit the coasts of every Gulf coast state and the Atlantic coast states? Puerto Ricans are Americans and so are people that live in the Gulf coast and Atlantic coast states.
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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 23, 2019 7:39:12 GMT -5
Can we get a $dollar amount of tax payer money sent to Puerto Rico after each of the named storms/hurricanes/tropical depressions listed in the OP? That might answer the question up front. No way to answer the question without all the facts
ETA: Surely there is a data base somewhere with the figures.
ETA2: Hurricane Betsy (1956) actually in 1965 - I know only because this was my first experience with a hurricane! Moved here in 64 and Betsy rambled around in the Gulf almost one year to the day of my moving to Gulf Coast - Ok I'm picky about things like that
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 23, 2019 8:27:50 GMT -5
How much money has Puerto Rico received since Hurricane Maria? Tropical storm Karen set it sights on Puerto Rico. soon to be a hurricane. How many tropical storms or Hurricanes affect Puerto Rico, Tropical Depression Nine (2003) Tropical Depression Fifteen (1970) Great Hurricane of 1780 1804 Antigua–Charleston hurricane 1867 San Narciso hurricane 1876 San Felipe hurricane 1899 San Ciriaco hurricane 1928 Okeechobee hurricane 1930 Dominican Republic hurricane 1932 San Ciprian hurricane A Hurricane Allen B Hurricane Bertha (1996) Hurricane Bertha (2014) Hurricane Betsy (1956) Tropical Storm Bonnie (2010) C Hurricane Carmen Tropical Storm Christine (1973) Hurricane Cristobal D Hurricane David Tropical Storm Dean (2001) Hurricane Dean Hurricane Debby (1982) Hurricane Debby (2000) Hurricane Donna E Hurricane Earl (2010) Effects of Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico Hurricane Eloise Tropical Storm Emily (2011) Tropical Storm Erika (2009) Tropical Storm Erika F Hurricane Faith Hurricane Frederic G Hurricane Georges Effects of Hurricane Georges in Puerto Rico Hurricane Gilbert Tropical Storm Gordon (2018) Hurricane Greta (1956) H Hurricane Hortense Hurricane Hugo I Hurricane Inez Hurricane Irene Hurricane Irma Effects of Hurricane Ivan in the Greater Antilles J Hurricane Jeanne Effects of Hurricane Jeanne in Puerto Rico Hurricane Jose (1999) K Hurricane Klaus (1984) Hurricane Kyle (2008) L Hurricane Lenny Hurricane Luis M Hurricane Maria Hurricane Maria death toll controversy Hurricane Marilyn N Hurricane Noel O Tropical Storm Olga (2007) Hurricane Otto (2010) R Hurricane Rafael
We tax payers give them money to rebuild after each of these?
What's your point? We should just move everyone off PR onto the mainland USA and not allow people to live there because it keeps getting hit by storms? Turn it into a wilderness park?
If you apply that logic, many places along the Gulf and the eastern seaboard need to be abandoned. New Orleans requires an expensive levee system to keep above sea level, and Florida is experiencing a salt water intrusion problem into their freshwater aquifers that will make large parts of the state uninhabitable unless we spend a ton of money to supply them with drinking water and protect their sewage treatment plants. Not to mention all the parts of the country in your area that routinely burn off from wildfires, which are a periodic natural event out there.
I actually agree with you that there are parts of the country that really shouldn't be inhabited, but I'm surprised to hear a right leaning conservative talking about abandoning a natural disaster prone area - normally that part is all about private property rights.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 23, 2019 9:09:10 GMT -5
Then rebuild the house, one step above cardboard, when it blows away again, expect free aid again! You build in a flood plain, you get flooded, you build in a fire prone area your house burns, whine and cry, want free stuff. Wonder why the aid is slow in coming? It is because Puerto Rico is extremely corrupt,
If you happen to be a relative of the officals handing out free stuff ,you do real good, father down the line,,,, Well,, not so good, like none at all.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2019 9:24:26 GMT -5
How many floods, tornadoes, earthquakes, blizzards, and crop-killing droughts hit our country?
We tax payers give them money to rebuild after each of these?
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 23, 2019 9:47:29 GMT -5
Then rebuild the house, one step above cardboard, when it blows away again, expect free aid again! You build in a flood plain, you get flooded, you build in a fire prone area your house burns, whine and cry, want free stuff. Wonder why the aid is slow in coming? It is because Puerto Rico is extremely corrupt,
If you happen to be a relative of the officals handing out free stuff ,you do real good, father down the line,,,, Well,, not so good, like none at all.
If PR is corrupt and the aid money given to them gets frittered away, that's for the PR people to resolve. They have the power to vote in new politicians.
The federal government can't decide not to give aid money to a particular part of the country, whilehelping another part, based on how well they think the money is being spent. After all, what proof do we have that all the money being handed out to farmers right now is actually going to help the farmers, and not going to some politicians' pockets? And that's not even for a natural disaster, that's for a Trump induced trade war.
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 23, 2019 10:43:42 GMT -5
Then rebuild the house, one step above cardboard, when it blows away again, expect free aid again! You build in a flood plain, you get flooded, you build in a fire prone area your house burns, whine and cry, want free stuff. Wonder why the aid is slow in coming? It is because Puerto Rico is extremely corrupt,
If you happen to be a relative of the officals handing out free stuff ,you do real good, father down the line,,,, Well,, not so good, like none at all.
I'm sure the people in Houston are waiting with baited breath for the compassion you are displaying here
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 23, 2019 10:44:51 GMT -5
Then rebuild the house, one step above cardboard, when it blows away again, expect free aid again! You build in a flood plain, you get flooded, you build in a fire prone area your house burns, whine and cry, want free stuff. Wonder why the aid is slow in coming? It is because Puerto Rico is extremely corrupt,
If you happen to be a relative of the officals handing out free stuff ,you do real good, father down the line,,,, Well,, not so good, like none at all.
If PR is corrupt and the aid money given to them gets frittered away, that's for the PR people to resolve. They have the power to vote in new politicians.
The federal government can't decide not to give aid money to a particular part of the country, whilehelping another part, based on how well they think the money is being spent. After all, what proof do we have that all the money being handed out to farmers right now is actually going to help the farmers, and not going to some politicians' pockets? And that's not even for a natural disaster, that's for a Trump induced trade war.
Are you sure there is a difference?
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2019 10:50:10 GMT -5
Then rebuild the house, one step above cardboard, when it blows away again, expect free aid again! You build in a flood plain, you get flooded, you build in a fire prone area your house burns, whine and cry, want free stuff. Wonder why the aid is slow in coming? It is because Puerto Rico is extremely corrupt,
If you happen to be a relative of the officals handing out free stuff ,you do real good, father down the line,,,, Well,, not so good, like none at all.
I'm sure the people in Houston are waiting with baited breath for the compassion you are displaying here Thoughts and prayers to all the Houstonians who died after holding their breath too long waiting for the poster's compassion for them.
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Post by justme on Sept 23, 2019 10:52:57 GMT -5
Then rebuild the house, one step above cardboard, when it blows away again, expect free aid again! You build in a flood plain, you get flooded, you build in a fire prone area your house burns, whine and cry, want free stuff. Wonder why the aid is slow in coming? It is because Puerto Rico is extremely corrupt,
If you happen to be a relative of the officals handing out free stuff ,you do real good, father down the line,,,, Well,, not so good, like none at all.
I'm sure the people in Houston are waiting with baited breath for the compassion you are displaying here Based on his responses he should be telling everyone in Houston to leave as this is the second time it's happened in 2 years. Flooding in the same spots.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 23, 2019 11:26:16 GMT -5
Then rebuild the house, one step above cardboard, when it blows away again, expect free aid again! You build in a flood plain, you get flooded, you build in a fire prone area your house burns, whine and cry, want free stuff. Wonder why the aid is slow in coming? It is because Puerto Rico is extremely corrupt,
If you happen to be a relative of the officals handing out free stuff ,you do real good, father down the line,,,, Well,, not so good, like none at all.
I'm sure the people in Houston are waiting with baited breath for the compassion you are displaying here How many times has Houston flooded?? I have two separate personal friends, that went thru Houston hurricanes, both moved, They moved because of the hurricanes.
One need physical and financial help to do so, still got it done!
Moved to Sunny AZ! Where today we are getting rained on by tropical storm Karen, by the way. There is a saying about doing the same thing over and over and over again, getting the same results!!
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 23, 2019 11:34:38 GMT -5
I'm sure the people in Houston are waiting with baited breath for the compassion you are displaying here How many times has Houston flooded?? I have two separate personal friends, that went thru Houston hurricanes, both moved, They moved because of the hurricanes.
One need physical and financial help to do so, still got it done!
Moved to Sunny AZ! Where today we are getting rained on by tropical storm Karen, by the way. There is a saying about doing the same thing over and over and over again, getting the same results!!
No you're not. TS Karen is sitting in the Caribbean half way between Venezuela and Puerto Rico. Did you buy one of DT's sharpies?
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Post by NoNamePerson on Sept 23, 2019 12:00:55 GMT -5
I bet there are carvings inside caves on this very subject! Find me the perfect place and I’ll Effin’ move there. NO natural disasters of any kind EVER.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2019 12:15:12 GMT -5
How many times has Houston flooded?? I have two separate personal friends, that went thru Houston hurricanes, both moved, They moved because of the hurricanes.
One need physical and financial help to do so, still got it done!
Moved to Sunny AZ! Where today we are getting rained on by tropical storm Karen, by the way. There is a saying about doing the same thing over and over and over again, getting the same results!!
No you're not. TS Karen is sitting in the Caribbean half way between Venezuela and Puerto Rico. Did you buy one of DT's sharpies? OC once claimed Phoenix/Arizona has been struck by hurricane(s). No. Phoenix/Arizona has been 'struck' by the remnants of downgraded hurricanes. There actually is a difference.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 23, 2019 21:15:43 GMT -5
Woooooops, missed that one.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 23, 2019 21:18:39 GMT -5
See Tenn, they call it a Hurricane,,,,, remnants. Right now it is raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock!!
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2019 21:22:13 GMT -5
See Tenn, they call it a Hurricane,,,,, remnants. Right now it is raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock!!
Yes. I used the word "remnants" too. It is not a hurricane.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 23, 2019 21:27:09 GMT -5
See Tenn, they call it a Hurricane,,,,, remnants. Right now it is raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock!!
Yes. I used the word "remnants" too. It is not a hurricane. If we have sustained wind of over 74 mph for one minute, could this be called a Hurricane again?
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2019 21:34:20 GMT -5
Yes. I used the word "remnants" too. It is not a hurricane. If we have sustained wind of over 74 mph for one minute, could this be called a Hurricane again? No. That is called a gust. If we go by your desperate 'definition' for attention, I survived Hurricane Katrina while 1,833 did not.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 23, 2019 21:34:50 GMT -5
Mark O’Malley, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service, told The Republic the nature of Monday's storms were difficult to predict, as more were expected into Monday evening and early morning hours of Tuesday.
Difficult to predict, hours away,, No problem predicting 100 years from now!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 23, 2019 21:36:06 GMT -5
If we have sustained wind of over 74 mph for one minute, could this be called a Hurricane again? No. That is called a gust. If we go by your desperate 'definition' for attention, I survived Hurricane Katrina while 1,833 did not. Did you wait it out in the football dome??
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2019 21:37:41 GMT -5
No. That is called a gust. If we go by your desperate 'definition' for attention, I survived Hurricane Katrina while 1,833 did not. Did you wait it out in the football dome?? No. I toughed it out in my home.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 23, 2019 21:44:54 GMT -5
I also survived 'Hurricane Elvis' in 2003. Straight line winds in excess of 100 MPH (category 2 hurricane) struck my home and neighborhood. Memphis Summer Storm of 2003
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