Here is some history I was never taught in school

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www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-rural-town-confronts-its-buried-history-of-mass-killings-of-black-americans/ar-AAFXyUO?li=BBnb7Kz

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Sounds like there is some murky history by both races on the racial attacks on at least on how many died, but man, this is atrocious.

[billisonboard]

Not something I was taught about either. Thanks for posting it. 

[steff]

200-800 African Americans are massacred but we're going to "both sides" it.   GMAFB

Maybe we can "both sides" the Dozier School for boys & that mass grave.  Or the death/work camp mass graves in Sugarland, Texas.   

[tallguy]

Aug 18, 2019 13:18:48 GMT -5 steff said:

200-800 African Americans are massacred but we're going to "both sides" it.   GMAFB

Maybe we can "both sides" the Dozier School for boys & that mass grave.  Or the death/work camp mass graves in Sugarland, Texas.   

To be fair, if this is referring to Reply #1 the anger may be misplaced.  I did not read it as the poster copying Trump's "...good people on both sides" nonsense.  I read it as neither side really being aware of the history or knowing exactly what the details were 100 years ago, which appears to be backed up by the article.  He did say the events itself were atrocious.   

[steff]

Aug 18, 2019 15:37:16 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Aug 18, 2019 13:18:48 GMT -5 steff said:

200-800 African Americans are massacred but we're going to "both sides" it.   GMAFB

Maybe we can "both sides" the Dozier School for boys & that mass grave.  Or the death/work camp mass graves in Sugarland, Texas.   

To be fair, if this is referring to Reply #1 the anger may be misplaced.  I did not read it as the poster copying Trump's "...good people on both sides" nonsense.  I read it as neither side really being aware of the history or knowing exactly what the details were 100 years ago, which appears to be backed up by the article.  He did say the events itself were atrocious.   

sorry, but not buying it.   And I no longer give the "benefit of doubt" to people who support an administration putting children in cages. 

[Tennesseer]

Did not learn about this in school.  But then school was in the '50s and '60s.  Jim Crow laws and the segregation of the races in the schools were still in place in much of the country. 

But I did learn about the Elaine, Arkansas massacre once I moved to Memphis in the mid-'90s.  Elaine and Phillips County are close to Memphis so it is talked about from time to time.

[steff]

Maybe I just read more stuff & have a curiosity to learn more about things I read/hear about.  When I saw a blip about the Dozier mass graves being found, I started reading more & looking for updates as they went along.  Same with the mass graves found in Sugarland.  I watch a lot of history based shows & I'll start researching & reading about the main subject I watched & the little side notes they gave thru the show.  I'm probably one of the world's worst when it comes to going down a random historical rabbit hole. 

Silly example.  I love historical romance novels.  Specifically set between 1100-1600's.  I will also read every book by an author if I liked the 1st one.  A couple of months ago I started reading a book that the author tied in 6 more books into the 1st Baron's rebellion in England.  by the 2nd book, I decided I wanted to know the real history behind the Baron's rebellion because she was using real history, not just making up people & battles.  So I spent pretty much a whole night looking up stuff online & reading about it. 

I do this with a lot of random stuff.  Yesterday driving to Athens, I saw a historical marker I hadn't noticed before.  When I got home I looked up the marker & read up on the history behind it.  

[Tennesseer]

Aug 18, 2019 13:18:48 GMT -5 steff said:

200-800 African Americans are massacred but we're going to "both sides" it.   GMAFB

Maybe we can "both sides" the Dozier School for boys & that mass grave.  Or the death/work camp mass graves in Sugarland, Texas.   

I read The White House Boys: An American Tragedy (Dozier School) a few years back. An interesting read.

[Gardening Grandma]

Aug 18, 2019 15:56:33 GMT -5 steff said:

Aug 18, 2019 15:37:16 GMT -5 tallguy said:

To be fair, if this is referring to Reply #1 the anger may be misplaced.  I did not read it as the poster copying Trump's "...good people on both sides" nonsense.  I read it as neither side really being aware of the history or knowing exactly what the details were 100 years ago, which appears to be backed up by the article.  He did say the events itself were atrocious.   

sorry, but not buying it.   And I no longer give the "benefit of doubt" to people who support an administration putting children in cages. 

 Neither do I

[Tennesseer]

Red Summer 1919: Tree honoring black victims cut down in alleged crime
August 25, 2019

A willow tree memorializing the African American lives lost in a 1919 massacre in Elaine, Arkansas, in one of the deadliest racial conflicts in U.S. history, was chopped down this week in what some fear was an act of hate.

Mary Olson, president and founder of the Elaine Legacy Center, posted about the incident on Facebook Wednesday. "The Living Memorial, memorializing all those who lost their lives in the Elaine Massacre of 1919 was chopped down at the base today and the Memorial tag stolen," she said in the post.

Elaine Police Department Chief Alvin Scaife said the tree "appeared to be cut down," but that state authorities were handling the case. The Arkansas Department of Parks and Tourism, which manages the tree, did not respond Saturday morning to a request for comment. The Department of Justice could not comment on whether a hate crime investigation was underway.

Complete article here:  Red Summer 1919: Tree honoring black victims cut down in alleged crime

[tallguy]

Deplorable.

[laterbloomer]

Aug 18, 2019 10:13:47 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Sounds like there is some murky history by both races on the racial attacks on at least on how many died, but man, this is atrocious.

What do you murky history by BOTH races? There seems to be one clear villain in this story.

[Cheesy FL-Vol]

Aug 18, 2019 16:34:10 GMT -5 steff said:

Maybe I just read more stuff & have a curiosity to learn more about things I read/hear about.  When I saw a blip about the Dozier mass graves being found, I started reading more & looking for updates as they went along.  Same with the mass graves found in Sugarland.  I watch a lot of history based shows & I'll start researching & reading about the main subject I watched & the little side notes they gave thru the show.  I'm probably one of the world's worst when it comes to going down a random historical rabbit hole. 

Silly example.  I love historical romance novels.  Specifically set between 1100-1600's.  I will also read every book by an author if I liked the 1st one.  A couple of months ago I started reading a book that the author tied in 6 more books into the 1st Baron's rebellion in England.  by the 2nd book, I decided I wanted to know the real history behind the Baron's rebellion because she was using real history, not just making up people & battles.  So I spent pretty much a whole night looking up stuff online & reading about it. 

I do this with a lot of random stuff.  Yesterday driving to Athens, I saw a historical marker I hadn't noticed before.  When I got home I looked up the marker & read up on the history behind it.  

I do much the same! When I took my humanities class a few years ago, my professor loved me because my curiosity about this, that, or the other thing frequently had me diving into google. She wished more of her students were driven to learn about more than what was in the course material.

[Value Buy]

Aug 18, 2019 15:37:16 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Aug 18, 2019 13:18:48 GMT -5 steff said:

200-800 African Americans are massacred but we're going to "both sides" it.   GMAFB

Maybe we can "both sides" the Dozier School for boys & that mass grave.  Or the death/work camp mass graves in Sugarland, Texas.   

To be fair, if this is referring to Reply #1 the anger may be misplaced.  I did not read it as the poster copying Trump's "...good people on both sides" nonsense.  I read it as neither side really being aware of the history or knowing exactly what the details were 100 years ago, which appears to be backed up by the article.  He did say the events itself were atrocious.   

Exactly. 
And it was atrocious thing to happen, hard to fathom for me. Reading the article both races seemed to have not passed on enough reliable facts. 

[Tennesseer]

Something else we didn't learn in school.

The Thibodaux Massacre Left 60 African-Americans Dead and Spelled the End of Unionized Farm Labor in the South for Decades

In 1887, African-American cane workers in Louisiana attempted to organize—and many paid with their lives

On November 23, 1887, a mass shooting of African-American farm workers in Louisiana left some 60 dead. Bodies were dumped in unmarked graves while the white press cheered a victory against a fledgling black union. It was one of the bloodiest days in United States labor history, and while statues went up and public places were named for some of those involved, there is no marker of the Thibodaux Massacre.

Days after, a local planter widow Mary Pugh wrote, “I think this will settle the question of who is to rule the n_____ or the white man for the next fifty years.” It was a far-sighted comment— black farm workers in the South wouldn’t have the opportunity to unionize for generations.

Years after the Thirteenth Amendment brought freedom, cane cutters’ working lives were already “barely distinguishable” from slavery, argues journalist and author John DeSantis. (His book, The Thibodaux Massacre: Racial Violence and the 1887 Sugar Cane Labor Strike, is an excellent and compelling account of the massacre.) With no land to own or rent, workers and their families lived in old slave cabins. They toiled in gangs, just like their ancestors had for nearly a century. Growers gave workers meals but paid famine wages of as little as 42 cents a day (91 cents per hour in today’s money, for a 12-hour shift).

Complete article here:  The Thibodaux Massacre Left 60 African-Americans Dead and Spelled the End of Unionized Farm Labor in the South for Decades

[thyme4change]

September 31st?