Beto Is Going To Fix Climate For Only 5 Trillion $

[OldCoyote]

thelibertarianrepublic.com/beto-orourke-unveils-5-trillion-climate-change-agenda/

Wooooo Hoooooo, this is so much less than the New Green Deal's $93 Trillion!!

Hey,, for a couple of $$$$$$ thousand to show up in my mailbox each week,, I will quit drinking carbonated beverages!

Why for that much money I would even condemn cow farts!!

[OldCoyote]

Wow, What is Biden going to do??

I mean everyone else is going to fix the climate thing give free college ,, cancel all student loans, soon we will be hearing of free housing,, free food,,free alcohol,, free cars,,,,,,,,,,,,,

And Joe is only offering free hugs,,

You had better pick it up man,, you are losing your base!!

[bean29]

I think it is unrealistic to think we don't need to do anything to fix the environment. It is painfully obvious that we need to take whatever steps we can to fix the environment.

I am a Democratic voter, I am not too thrilled with the "free" college proposals. As a higher income taxpayer, my kids were not eligible for financial aid or subsidized loans. They do have student loans. All the proposals I hear are for lower income people or for people with subsidized loans. 

When DH and I went to college, The states subsidized the Univerity, and attending college was affordable for almost everyone.  If you compare the cost of attendance today to the cost 25-35 years ago, there is a staggering difference.

www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/how-much-college-tuition-has-increased-from-1988-to-2018.html

Students at public four-year institutions paid an average of $3,190 in tuition for the 1987-1988 school year, with prices adjusted to reflect 2017 dollars. Thirty years later, that average has risen to $9,970 for the 2017-2018 school year. That’s a 213 percent increase

Same article talks about home much housing costs have increased.

In 1940, the median home value in the U.S. was $2,938. By 2000, it had risen to $119,600 and today it’s just over $200,000. Even adjusted for inflation, the median home price in 1940 would only have been $30,600 in 2000 dollars

Our kids will not be able to afford to pay for everything we are pushing off onto their shoulders.  The answer should not have been Grow the Deficit by lowering taxes on rich people.

That said, my company owns Industrial properties, and the lighting in our buildings is being changed out pretty rapidly b/c the savings by going to LED lighting pretty much pays for itself in just a short time.  DH is fixing up one of our rental properties and he came home and told me he has to buy new light fixtures b/c they are so old they were a fire hazard.  He says the new LED fixtures have permanent bulbs in them, when they burn out, you don't replace the bulb, you replace the fixture. 

We bought three fixtures something like this:

www.menards.com/main/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/patriot-lighting-reg-round-satin-nickel-1400-lumens-led-flush-mount-ceiling-light/c7078/p-1491978003208-c-7496.htm?tid=8942422089485697681&ipos=23

www.menards.com/main/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/patriot-lighting-reg-payton-930-lumen-dimmable-led-flush-mount-ceiling-light-2-pack/c5665/p-1455974627418-c-7496.htm?tid=3896332070357691089&ipos=43

So, I was thinking yesterday that as Americans replace their lighting in their houses, we will be using less energy...so the question becomes should we just move up the implementation of led, or should we just wait for people to change over?  I know I was thinking if we change out fixtures in our rental property, I don't benefit from the energy savings, but seriously I was asking myself if I should buy new fixtures for my house.  I know DH and I discussed pillar lamps outside, but he seemed to think he could just get LED bulbs for the existing fixtures.

[OldCoyote]

I have a question that I would ask every one of the candidates, running especially under the climate change flag,

Since we have all that ice melting from Climate Change,, the oceans are rising rapidly.

Where can we go, see a mark on a wall , gauge, or what ever that was put there 100 years ago,,

We can see how much the seas have risen today under exactly the same conditions were when the mark was put there 100 years ago!

Till then,, The sky is falling,, the sky is falling,,, hmmmm, remember that story?

[OldCoyote]

Apr 29, 2019 10:39:49 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I think it is unrealistic to think we don't need to do anything to fix the environment. It is painfully obvious that we need to take whatever steps we can to fix the environment.

I am a Democratic voter, I am not too thrilled with the "free" college proposals. As a higher income taxpayer, my kids were not eligible for financial aid or subsidized loans. They do have student loans. All the proposals I hear are for lower income people or for people with subsidized loans. 

When DH and I went to college, The states subsidized the Univerity, and attending college was affordable for almost everyone.  If you compare the cost of attendance today to the cost 25-35 years ago, there is a staggering difference.

www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/how-much-college-tuition-has-increased-from-1988-to-2018.html

Students at public four-year institutions paid an average of $3,190 in tuition for the 1987-1988 school year, with prices adjusted to reflect 2017 dollars. Thirty years later, that average has risen to $9,970 for the 2017-2018 school year. That’s a 213 percent increase

Same article talks about home much housing costs have increased.

In 1940, the median home value in the U.S. was $2,938. By 2000, it had risen to $119,600 and today it’s just over $200,000. Even adjusted for inflation, the median home price in 1940 would only have been $30,600 in 2000 dollars

Our kids will not be able to afford to pay for everything we are pushing off onto their shoulders.  The answer should not have been Grow the Deficit by lowering taxes on rich people.

What do you want bet the exact same words were used in1940,, 1950,, 1960,, 1970,, 1980,, and so on.

[Value Buy]

Beto has already been dismissed as a legitimate contender for the throne.
He was just shamed by the left into returning some campaign money from people who may not align up with the left's agenda.
Being of Irish descent does not get it done anymore, especially an Irishman who always is apoligizing for being white and ashamed of his standing in life versus the masses.

[Deleted]

Beto's last election loss, doesn't exactly inspire confidence either.

[Deleted]

Apr 29, 2019 10:39:49 GMT -5 bean29 said:

I think it is unrealistic to think we don't need to do anything to fix the environment. It is painfully obvious that we need to take whatever steps we can to fix the environment.

I am a Democratic voter, I am not too thrilled with the "free" college proposals. As a higher income taxpayer, my kids were not eligible for financial aid or subsidized loans. They do have student loans. All the proposals I hear are for lower income people or for people with subsidized loans. 

When DH and I went to college, The states subsidized the Univerity, and attending college was affordable for almost everyone.  If you compare the cost of attendance today to the cost 25-35 years ago, there is a staggering difference.

www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/how-much-college-tuition-has-increased-from-1988-to-2018.html

Students at public four-year institutions paid an average of $3,190 in tuition for the 1987-1988 school year, with prices adjusted to reflect 2017 dollars. Thirty years later, that average has risen to $9,970 for the 2017-2018 school year. That’s a 213 percent increase

Same article talks about home much housing costs have increased.

In 1940, the median home value in the U.S. was $2,938. By 2000, it had risen to $119,600 and today it’s just over $200,000. Even adjusted for inflation, the median home price in 1940 would only have been $30,600 in 2000 dollars

Our kids will not be able to afford to pay for everything we are pushing off onto their shoulders.  The answer should not have been Grow the Deficit by lowering taxes on rich people.

That said, my company owns Industrial properties, and the lighting in our buildings is being changed out pretty rapidly b/c the savings by going to LED lighting pretty much pays for itself in just a short time.  DH is fixing up one of our rental properties and he came home and told me he has to buy new light fixtures b/c they are so old they were a fire hazard.  He says the new LED fixtures have permanent bulbs in them, when they burn out, you don't replace the bulb, you replace the fixture. 

We bought three fixtures something like this:

www.menards.com/main/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/patriot-lighting-reg-round-satin-nickel-1400-lumens-led-flush-mount-ceiling-light/c7078/p-1491978003208-c-7496.htm?tid=8942422089485697681&ipos=23

www.menards.com/main/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/lighting-ceiling-fans/indoor-lighting/flush-mount-lights/patriot-lighting-reg-payton-930-lumen-dimmable-led-flush-mount-ceiling-light-2-pack/c5665/p-1455974627418-c-7496.htm?tid=3896332070357691089&ipos=43

So, I was thinking yesterday that as Americans replace their lighting in their houses, we will be using less energy...so the question becomes should we just move up the implementation of led, or should we just wait for people to change over?  I know I was thinking if we change out fixtures in our rental property, I don't benefit from the energy savings, but seriously I was asking myself if I should buy new fixtures for my house.  I know DH and I discussed pillar lamps outside, but he seemed to think he could just get LED bulbs for the existing fixtures.

So you're aware of the decreasing value of the dollar.

Let me introduce you to something.



Quote;  Quantitative Easing, Explained. It means creating massive amounts of money out of thin air with the hope of getting the economy back on track

www.npr.org/sections/money/2010/10/07/130408926/quantitative-easing-explained

[djAdvocate]

Apr 29, 2019 10:10:18 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

thelibertarianrepublic.com/beto-orourke-unveils-5-trillion-climate-change-agenda/

Wooooo Hoooooo, this is so much less than the New Green Deal's $93 Trillion!!

and approximately the same as the new debt the idiot you voted for is going to give us.