P.M. Trudeau of Canada

[Value Buy]

Evidently the other major world leader in North America has his own problems in Canada, and unfortunately our media does not write very much about it. This is the first I have read about this.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/justin-trudeau-faces-calls-to-resign/ar-BBUcCnQ?li=BBnbfcL

I am asking our Canadian posters to weigh in here.
Is there any validity to this or not?

[laterbloomer]

People are always calling for Trudeau to resign so that doesn't really mean anything.

But this has been going on for a while now and it looks like it's a big deal. I don't know how you haven't been reading about it, I can't avoid it. Since Jody Wilson-Raybould resigned last week we've been waiting for her o get the go ahead to talk. This week the Liberals voted down any investigations into things. I'm pretty sure this just killed the federal liberal party for the next election. Idiots!

[weltschmerz]

Yes, he should resign.

(I never liked him and I didn't vote for him)

[weltschmerz]

He protects terrorists, is very pro-Islam, and pro-Sharia law. When he said he was going to "change Canada", he wasn't kidding. He invited the entire Middle East in.
He can go fuck himself, while wearing his Ramadan socks.




Trudeau Gives Preference to Islam over all other Religions in Canada

canadafreepress.com/article/trudeau-gives-preference-to-islam-over-all-other-religions-in-canada

[justme]

The biggest thing I can't figure out (possibly because I've never taken the time to read a lot about it) is it seems both the conservatives and liberals I know up there hate him. Sometimes I wonder how he got elected lol, but my sample size is rather small. 

[weltschmerz]

Feb 28, 2019 14:25:39 GMT -5 justme said:

The biggest thing I can't figure out (possibly because I've never taken the time to read a lot about it) is it seems both the conservatives and liberals I know up there hate him. Sometimes I wonder how he got elected lol, but my sample size is rather small. 

He has nice hair.

[weltschmerz]

What he wants to do in essence, is establish Islamic blasphemy laws in Canada.
However, when mosque after mosque was found to be preaching the killing of all Jews, you know what he said?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I can't stand the guy.

[laterbloomer]

Feb 28, 2019 14:25:39 GMT -5 justme said:

The biggest thing I can't figure out (possibly because I've never taken the time to read a lot about it) is it seems both the conservatives and liberals I know up there hate him. Sometimes I wonder how he got elected lol, but my sample size is rather small. 

Two things, his father was PM for 16 years or so and is something of a Liberal legend. And the timing worked for Justin, we were pissed off at the Conservative government so it was the Liberals turn.

I don't dislike him the way weltz does, and I don't think he's trying to instil Sharia law or anything. But he has done some stupid things and I can't see him getting elected again. The problem is that means the Conservatives will get in. So more cuts to social programs and health care

[weltschmerz]

Feb 28, 2019 18:47:32 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Feb 28, 2019 14:25:39 GMT -5 justme said:

The biggest thing I can't figure out (possibly because I've never taken the time to read a lot about it) is it seems both the conservatives and liberals I know up there hate him. Sometimes I wonder how he got elected lol, but my sample size is rather small. 

Two things, his father was PM for 16 years or so and is something of a Liberal legend. And the timing worked for Justin, we were pissed off at the Conservative government so it was the Liberals turn.

I don't dislike him the way weltz does, and I don't think he's trying to instil Sharia law or anything. But he has done some stupid things and I can't see him getting elected again. The problem is that means the Conservatives will get in. So more cuts to social programs and health care

Trudeau made cuts to health care.
I'd vote Conservative, or Vlad the Impaler...anyone but Trudeau.

[weltschmerz]

Trudeau said that Sharia Law is not incompatible with Canadian democracy.

[weltschmerz]

He welcomed the young woman to Ottawa who claimed that someone cut off her hijab. It was a hoax.
He welcomed Joshua Boyle to Parliament Hill, who is facing 19 criminal charges, from kidnapping to sexual assault. We all knew that there was something very fishy about this guy, but Trudeau embraced him. Boyle was previously married to Omar Khadr's sister. No, nothing suspicious there....
He refused to deport terrorists who wanted to blow up the Parliament Buildings.

FUREY: Too many of Trudeau’s errors in judgment have a common thread - radical Islam

While hundreds of people have their citizenship revoked yearly for offences such as errors on their applications, Trudeau firmly advocated – amidst strong opposition from the Senate – for Bill C-6, which let convicted terrorists stay Canadian and passed into law last year.

torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-too-many-of-trudeaus-errors-in-judgment-have-a-common-thread-radical-islam

He can't leave soon enough for me. Go to hell.

[weltschmerz]

Who is Omar Khadr, you ask?
A terrorist from a terrorist family.They were best buds with Osama bin Laden.
Trudeau gave him over 10 million dollars, while Canadian seniors are going without their meds and veterans are homeless.

"Oh the poor boy was incarcerated in Guantanamo. All he did was murder a US sergeant and blind a medic. Poor thing! Here's a shitload of money!"

[OldCoyote]

Feb 28, 2019 13:53:16 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

He protects terrorists, is very pro-Islam, and pro-Sharia law. When he said he was going to "change Canada", he wasn't kidding. He invited the entire Middle East in.
He can go fuck himself, while wearing his Ramadan socks.




Trudeau Gives Preference to Islam over all other Religions in Canada

canadafreepress.com/article/trudeau-gives-preference-to-islam-over-all-other-religions-in-canada

Geees, what happened to Canada is the most wonderful place in the whole world??

[weltschmerz]

It will be a wonderful place again, as soon as we get rid of this guy.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 28, 2019 18:57:08 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Trudeau said that Sharia Law is not incompatible with Canadian democracy.

I am not sure that is false.

Canadian Democracy is not that impressive.

[djAdvocate]

Feb 28, 2019 19:39:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Who is Omar Khadr, you ask?
A terrorist from a terrorist family.They were best buds with Osama bin Laden.

same claim can be made of the Bush Family.

[happyhoix]

We'll, ya'll need to straighten this out up there, if Trump fails to get re-elected in 2020 and decides to barricade himself in the WH with 20,000 bubbas digging foxholes in the rose garden to defend him and we descend into anarchy, Canada was always where I figured I could find a temporary safe haven.

[Miss Tequila]

Feb 28, 2019 19:39:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Who is Omar Khadr, you ask?
A terrorist from a terrorist family.They were best buds with Osama bin Laden.
Trudeau gave him over 10 million dollars, while Canadian seniors are going without their meds and veterans are homeless.

"Oh the poor boy was incarcerated in Guantanamo. All he did was murder a US sergeant and blind a medic. Poor thing! Here's a shitload of money!"

Why are Canadian seniors going without their meds?  I thought you had socialized medicine?

[weltschmerz]

Mar 1, 2019 14:39:42 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Feb 28, 2019 19:39:20 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Who is Omar Khadr, you ask?
A terrorist from a terrorist family.They were best buds with Osama bin Laden.
Trudeau gave him over 10 million dollars, while Canadian seniors are going without their meds and veterans are homeless.

"Oh the poor boy was incarcerated in Guantanamo. All he did was murder a US sergeant and blind a medic. Poor thing! Here's a shitload of money!"

Why are Canadian seniors going without their meds?  I thought you had socialized medicine?

Socialized medicine doesn't pay for things like meds, dental, glasses, ambulance, etc.
You need supplementary insurance for that, and it's expensive,  especially for seniors. 

[weltschmerz]

Mar 1, 2019 15:54:14 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Socialized medicine doesn't pay for things like meds, dental, glasses, ambulance, etc.

You need supplementary insurance for that, and it's expensive, especially for seniors.

Socialized medicine in Canada does not pay for that.  (which I did not know, thank you)  

That does not mean that is the case elsewhere.  For instance, here, socialized medicine (Medicare, Medicaid, the VA) does pay for some of those items.

I've mentioned it many times. If you want acupuncture, chiro, ambulance, dental and eyeglasses, you either pay out of pocket or get supplemental insurance. These things aren't life-threatening.
I lost my insurance when I retired. It would cost me hundreds of dollars per month to maintain it, so I dropped it. Medicare does pay 50% for senior's meds. They're trying to change it, to make it nothing out of pocket.

Socialized medicine is organic. It changes all the time, and it varies from province to province. Some provinces won't pay for sex change surgeries, or IVF, but Quebec will.

That being said, it still beats for-profit systems. If I'm sick, I'm covered. If I get cancer, I'm covered. If I need surgery or dialysis, I'm covered.
I don't have to worry about deductibles, co-pays, getting hit with huge bills or having to mortgage my house to pay for open-heart surgery.

[NastyWoman]

Feb 28, 2019 18:54:11 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Feb 28, 2019 18:47:32 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Two things, his father was PM for 16 years or so and is something of a Liberal legend. And the timing worked for Justin, we were pissed off at the Conservative government so it was the Liberals turn.

I don't dislike him the way weltz does, and I don't think he's trying to instil Sharia law or anything. But he has done some stupid things and I can't see him getting elected again. The problem is that means the Conservatives will get in. So more cuts to social programs and health care

Trudeau made cuts to health care.
I'd vote Conservative, or Vlad the Impaler...anyone but Trudeau.

We have someone on offer. He comes complete with his own Golden Throne and is NOT called Trudeau. Want him?

happyhoix this approach is so much more efficient than making a whole group of people move. Besides, he claims to be stinking rich so he can relocate on his own dime if Canada pulls a Mexico on him

[happyhoix]

Mar 1, 2019 18:33:27 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Feb 28, 2019 18:54:11 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Trudeau made cuts to health care.
I'd vote Conservative, or Vlad the Impaler...anyone but Trudeau.

We have someone on offer. He comes complete with his own Golden Throne and is NOT called Trudeau. Want him?

happyhoix this approach is so much more efficient than making a whole group of people move. Besides, he claims to be stinking rich so he can relocate on his own dime if Canada pulls a Mexico on him

I bet we could do a Go Fund Me to raise enough money to buy a small island that he could escape to. One large enough for a golf course and resort, so he could continue to have the best chocolate cake on earth.

He could be emperor and avoid whatever legal action the SDNY is putting together against him. Then he's neither our problem or Canada's.

[kadee79]

Mar 1, 2019 15:54:14 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

That does not mean that is the case elsewhere.  For instance, here, socialized medicine (Medicare, Medicaid, the VA) does pay for some of those items.

Only in special circumstances and for many of the programs you have to qualify too.   
We also have to have separate insurance to cover meds, glasses & dental if you want it...and I'm not sure any insurance covers hearing aids.
 The meds is Part D of Medicare...but provided by outside insurance.
I'm sure there are others here who can explain it much better than I'm able to do.

[Virgil Showlion]

P.M. Trudeau is... eh... not unfairly characterized by Weltz' remarks.

I don't normally vote, due to the moral hazards of partisanship, but I might make an exception this election cycle. P.M. Trudeau is destroying the country with such zeal and efficiency, the greater wrong would be to let him persist unchecked. Like Pres. Trump, the man has oft been an intolerable embarrassment to his office.

As Weltz says: Conservatives, Vlad the Impaler, anybody.

If the SNC scandal is what brings him down, it's a truly sad commentary on the Canadian electorate. Not that SNC isn't a serious abuse of power, but it pales in comparison to the destruction he's wrought elsewhere. Its existence should be a non-issue.

[laterbloomer]

Trudeau is unfairly characterized by Weltz' remarks. His crimes are no worse than other politicians or political parties, there is just an unrelenting smear campaign going on against him. It's very similar to what they did to Wynn.

[Virgil Showlion]

Mar 3, 2019 21:17:22 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

Trudeau is unfairly characterized by Weltz' remarks. His crimes are no worse than other politicians or political parties, there is just an unrelenting smear campaign going on against him. It's very similar to what they did to Wynn.

Offhand: he reneged on his promises for senate reform, he's run perpetually record-setting federals deficits (far in excess of budget projections, which are themselves astronomical), he granted unconditional asylum to more than 150,000 refugees Canadian taxpayers can't support, he's signed us on to (fortunately non-binding) international agreements that state refugees have the inborn "right" to immigrate here at will, he committed us to the (again, fortunately non-binding) Paris Climate Treaty, he tried (and fortunately failed) to force every institution receiving government grants or subsidies to sign progressive values statements in a statist move that would make Chairman Mao blush, he tabled bill S-206, he handed over development of Canadian satellites and secure communications technology to the Chinese bloody government, he's made embarrassing retroactive apologies "on behalf of all Canadians" that he has absolutely no business making and that I frankly spit on, he's been useless in the energy east and energy west pipeline debacle, he kowtows to Quebec's every demand at the expense of every other province unlike any Prime Minister before him.

This isn't even touching on his personal scandals, his grandstanding, the utterly embarrassing trip to India, the litany of complaints Weltz has brought against him, and now this SNC scandal (a little peek behind the curtain as to how Canadian justice works when Quebec votes are on the line). All in under four years.

And Kathleen Wynne? The woman who sold off Ontario's highways, parks, hydro utilities--bought and paid for with Canadian blood, sweat, and taxes--to private American interests for pennies on the dollar because her government was running up debts so massive the province can no longer borrow money at reasonable interest rates? The woman who presided over the three most costly boondoggles in Ontario provincial history, tried to ban natural gas, instituted a carbon tax (again, to offset deficits big enough to blot out the sun, although California investors are certainly happy), ran the ORPP into the ground, and presided over the loss of 350,000 manufacturing jobs due to asinine environmental policies? That Kathleen Wynne?

Ah well. This is just par for the course. They're no worse than any other politicians. It's just a smear campaign.

Beam. Me. Up. If you're being serious.

No, this is not "no worse than other politicians or political parties". It is a lot worse. I don't give a damn how charming, "diverse", or well-intentioned they are.

justme : You're wondering how men like P.M. Trudeau get elected? Here's your answer.

[weltschmerz]

This asshole said that a couple like Mohammed and Fatima, who have been in the country for all of 20 minutes, are more Canadian than Canadians who were born here.
"This is your country more than it is for others."

Who says stuff like that? Do you know what a slap in the face that is for people who were born here, fought in wars to protect and defend their country, and shed blood sweat and tears to keep this country afloat with taxes?

What an insult!

[Value Buy]

Mar 1, 2019 15:08:24 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Mar 1, 2019 14:39:42 GMT -5 Miss Tequila said:

Why are Canadian seniors going without their meds?  I thought you had socialized medicine?

Socialized medicine doesn't pay for things like meds, dental, glasses, ambulance, etc.
You need supplementary insurance for that, and it's expensive,  especially for seniors. 

And you worry so much about how we are treated by our system when your's is just like ours!

I was just talking to a gentleman from Windsor last week and we discussed Canadian retirement plans available to the citizens there for over two hours. Some were great, others not so great. Have to spend a lot of energy hiding assets and accounts to keep it out of huge Government confiscation rates at death, etc. Same for the medical side. Lots of problems. Seems Canadians have a lot of similar concerns about their government programs as we do.

[weltschmerz]

Mar 4, 2019 7:53:04 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Mar 1, 2019 15:08:24 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Socialized medicine doesn't pay for things like meds, dental, glasses, ambulance, etc.
You need supplementary insurance for that, and it's expensive,  especially for seniors. 

And you worry so much about how we are treated by our system when your's is just like ours!

I was just talking to a gentleman from Windsor last week and we discussed Canadian retirement plans available to the citizens there for over two hours. Some were great, others not so great. Have to spend a lot of energy hiding assets and accounts to keep it out of huge Government confiscation rates at death, etc. Same for the medical side. Lots of problems. Seems Canadians have a lot of similar concerns about their government programs as we do.

Some guy you met isn't data.

Yes, of course there are different retirement plans...it depends on how much you worked! Does everyone in the US get the same amount of Social Security payments?
I don't know a soul who has to hide assets and accounts.

[mmhmm]

Mar 4, 2019 14:05:03 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Mar 4, 2019 7:53:04 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

And you worry so much about how we are treated by our system when your's is just like ours!

I was just talking to a gentleman from Windsor last week and we discussed Canadian retirement plans available to the citizens there for over two hours. Some were great, others not so great. Have to spend a lot of energy hiding assets and accounts to keep it out of huge Government confiscation rates at death, etc. Same for the medical side. Lots of problems. Seems Canadians have a lot of similar concerns about their government programs as we do.

Some guy you met isn't data.

Yes, of course there are different retirement plans...it depends on how much you worked! Does everyone in the US get the same amount of Social Security payments?
I don't know a soul who has to hide assets and accounts.

No. How much SS one receives is dependent on what you earned. It's based on your indexed monthly earnings during the 35 years in which you earned the most.