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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 22:51:49 GMT -5
oped no, I haven't. The studio I was going to was a 20-30 minute drive for me. I liked the ambiance of the studio itself. The owner is a cancer survivor and she offers special classes for cancer survivors for free. There are several other studios in the area, but none closer than a 20 minute drive. I keep saying I'm going to get back into it, because I really did enjoy it. It's just the driving, yuck! But if/when I do, I'll try to remember to check out a restorative class. It does sound like something I'd be interested in.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 13, 2018 22:59:00 GMT -5
My friend was showing her pictures of goat yoga. I laughed until she showed me the hoof marks on her back. My DIL went to goat yoga once. The goat peed on her. I don't get this weird infatuation people have with goats. Goat yoga combines yoga and laughter...both of which are really good for you.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 14, 2018 8:12:48 GMT -5
I was raised Protestant. My fathers second wife belonged to Assembly of God. Those people are out of their fricken minds! I was only about 20’the first time I was dragged to her church. A person stood up, very animated and not quite shouting in a language I never heard before. WTF? “Speaking in tongues” was an almost weekly occurrence. Even as a kid I thought those people were either nuts or doing it for the attention So I would take anything from a pastor of that kind of church with a grain of salt. They didn't bring out snakes, did they?
They have some snake handling churches around here. Apparently, if you get bitten and survive, that's a sign God favors you. If you die, you were a sinner, so good riddance.
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Post by happyhoix on Nov 14, 2018 8:15:04 GMT -5
There's a church around here where the women never cut their hair and wear long skirts with tights. They're also not allowed to testify in church, or read scripture out loud in church, or participate in the ceremony at all.
The things some people think are holy I don't understand, but if it works for them, I guess, more power to them.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 14, 2018 8:49:18 GMT -5
There's a church around here where the women never cut their hair and wear long skirts with tights. They're also not allowed to testify in church, or read scripture out loud in church, or participate in the ceremony at all.
The things some people think are holy I don't understand, but if it works for them, I guess, more power to them.
No. Let's not give them any more power. They already have the Senate, the White House and the court system. They have more power than they need.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 14, 2018 9:03:28 GMT -5
There's a church around here where the women never cut their hair and wear long skirts with tights. They're also not allowed to testify in church, or read scripture out loud in church, or participate in the ceremony at all.
The things some people think are holy I don't understand, but if it works for them, I guess, more power to them.
No. Let's not give them any more power. They already have the Senate, the White House and the court system. They have more power than they need.Holy Crap,, This reminds Me in the early 60's Just before the election between Kennedy and Nixon,,, One of my uncles said" If that God Damned Kennedy gets elected, in six weeks the Pope will be running the Country"!! Hmmmm, I guess thing never change.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Nov 14, 2018 9:07:37 GMT -5
No. Let's not give them any more power. They already have the Senate, the White House and the court system. They have more power than they need. Holy Crap,, This reminds Me in the early 60's Just before the election between Kennedy and Nixon,,, One of my uncles said" If that God Damned Kennedy gets elected, in six weeks the Pope will be running the Country"!! Hmmmm, I guess thing never change.
The Pope didn't run the country and Kennedy and company did not ram Christianity (or versions of it) down our throats either.
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Post by OldCoyote on Nov 14, 2018 9:20:26 GMT -5
Holy Crap,, This reminds Me in the early 60's Just before the election between Kennedy and Nixon,,, One of my uncles said" If that God Damned Kennedy gets elected, in six weeks the Pope will be running the Country"!! Hmmmm, I guess thing never change.
The Pope didn't run the country and Kennedy and company did not ram Christianity (or versions of it) down our throats either. I most certainly know that,, the point was the biased for and against religion has not changed. I did use the word biased when I should have used a stronger word!
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Post by oped on Nov 14, 2018 10:26:42 GMT -5
I don't give a shit how they practice their religion. however since they DO want and try to change the laws on how i live, yes, their power in our government should be curtailed. That was the original intent of the constitution.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 14, 2018 18:08:51 GMT -5
I always try to drum up business for restorative because that isn't as highly attended and i'm always afraid they will drop it. But people don't understand that its not supposed to be 'a workout' ... its supposed to align your body. If you zone out to the point where you almost fall asleep in position that is 'the zone' and amazing. My spine feels so good after restorative. Restorative is the only kind I like. And it is hard to find a class.
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Post by oped on Nov 14, 2018 18:10:07 GMT -5
That’s why I’m always trying to talk mine up! I’d hate to have them cancel it for low attendance. Itfrquenlt only has 3-4 and I’ve been the only one before.
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Post by Jaguar on Nov 14, 2018 18:17:30 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with yoga, paganism or anything else. Like everything you need to weed through the crap, discernment is a good tool to have. The control issues in the top major organized religions is just bloody insane.
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Post by tigerpause on Nov 14, 2018 22:29:00 GMT -5
Yoga makes you flexible; good for Twister
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Post by tigerpause on Nov 14, 2018 22:35:35 GMT -5
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 15, 2018 1:35:33 GMT -5
I do my best to avoid activities with pagan or religious, non-scriptural origins, including Yoga. Even as gutted and sanitized as they are by Western society, they're never fully scrubbed clean of their spiritual and religious aspects. There's also perception to consider. Even if I practiced a 100% sanitized version of Yoga with all traces of paganism expunged, another Christian observing me might conclude Yoga is acceptable practice generally, giving himself over to a less sanitized version of the same. Far better to avoid the risk and engage in the countless alternatives. That would be my advice to fellow Christians, at any rate.
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Post by bean29 on Nov 15, 2018 6:32:58 GMT -5
I do my best to avoid activities with pagan or religious, non-scriptural origins, including Yoga. Even as gutted and sanitized as they are by Western society, they're never fully scrubbed clean of their spiritual and religious aspects. There's also perception to consider. Even if I practiced a 100% sanitized version of Yoga with all traces of paganism expunged, another Christian observing me might conclude Yoga is acceptable practice generally, giving himself over to a less sanitized version of the same. Far better to avoid the risk and engage in the countless alternatives. That would be my advice to fellow Christians, at any rate. I wonder if we should worry more about this or participating in a church that has leaders that have a long history of protecting sex offenders at the expense of their victims. Is there any concern about the members of that religion being exposed to practices of the devil?
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Post by oped on Nov 15, 2018 6:40:41 GMT -5
Some people will always prefer authoritarian rules to the acts of Jesus. When people express this preference I generally just allow the information to inform my opinion of them and support my plan to stay the hell away from them. You aren’t going to change their mind, and it is certainly not worth the time to try.... just put them on ignore so their spew doesn’t infect the air around you.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 15, 2018 11:18:06 GMT -5
I do my best to avoid activities with pagan or religious, non-scriptural origins, including Yoga. Even as gutted and sanitized as they are by Western society, they're never fully scrubbed clean of their spiritual and religious aspects. There's also perception to consider. Even if I practiced a 100% sanitized version of Yoga with all traces of paganism expunged, another Christian observing me might conclude Yoga is acceptable practice generally, giving himself over to a less sanitized version of the same. Far better to avoid the risk and engage in the countless alternatives. That would be my advice to fellow Christians, at any rate. I wonder if we should worry more about this or participating in a church that has leaders that have a long history of protecting sex offenders at the expense of their victims. Is there any concern about the members of that religion being exposed to practices of the devil? Absolutely. The Catholic Church has piled up sins through the ages, and many false doctrines. This is one of the reasons I left the Catholic Church decades ago. Regarding the two issues--pagan practices and pedophilia--there is a key difference in that the former is performed openly by parishioners and the latter is performed in secret by the ministry. My parents are both Catholic and, like most Catholics, they'd run a priest guilty of pedophilia out of town on a rail if the sin became known. But something like Yoga, whose pagan aspects aren't as obvious or may not seem as serious, they might well tolerate.
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Post by justme on Nov 15, 2018 11:26:26 GMT -5
I wonder if we should worry more about this or participating in a church that has leaders that have a long history of protecting sex offenders at the expense of their victims. Is there any concern about the members of that religion being exposed to practices of the devil? Absolutely. The Catholic Church has piled up sins through the ages, and many false doctrines. This is one of the reasons I left the Catholic Church decades ago. Regarding the two issues--pagan practices and pedophilia--there is a key difference in that the former is performed openly by parishioners and the latter is performed in secret by the ministry. My parents are both Catholic and, like most Catholics, they'd run a priest guilty of pedophilia out of town on a rail if the sin became known. But something like Yoga, whose pagan aspects aren't as obvious or may not seem as serious, they might well tolerate.
Sooooo.... you've never had a Christmas tree then? And celebrate Jesus' birth when he was actually born and not in Dec? Oh and I must point out that the idea that that catholic church os the only one with pedophiles is naive.
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Post by bean29 on Nov 15, 2018 11:28:42 GMT -5
I don't care for yoga because I don't consider it a workout. I know lots of people do. My type of workout is intense. I like going to the gym and going balls to the walls and getting out of dodge. I agree. And 75% of my teachers have been fat and/or doughy. If it is such a great workout, why don't they look like they are in shape? The gym where I was introduced to Yoga has a lot of Indian attendees that are either Hindu or Sikh. Their workouts hit a lot of the same muscle groups my Body Pump classes do without the weights. They do squats, pushups and situps along with the stretching exercises. Many of the women that go to those classes are in really good shape. My Cousin and her friend are also big into yoga, and they are two of the most in shape people I know. I don't care for the meditation, and it is not my preferred workout, but I do take an occasional yoga class, and consider it a decent workout, but there are apparently many forms of Yoga, done for many different purposes.
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Post by swamp on Nov 15, 2018 11:29:48 GMT -5
Anyone ever done hot yoga?
That just sucks. Yoga is bad enough, but in a 100 degree room? No, thanks.
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Nov 15, 2018 11:30:25 GMT -5
What I was told by clergy is yoga as an exercise program for health is okay. Yoga as practiced for religion is not okay. Many of the Christian holidays were taken over from pagans.
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Post by bean29 on Nov 15, 2018 11:35:39 GMT -5
Absolutely. The Catholic Church has piled up sins through the ages, and many false doctrines. This is one of the reasons I left the Catholic Church decades ago. Regarding the two issues--pagan practices and pedophilia--there is a key difference in that the former is performed openly by parishioners and the latter is performed in secret by the ministry. My parents are both Catholic and, like most Catholics, they'd run a priest guilty of pedophilia out of town on a rail if the sin became known. But something like Yoga, whose pagan aspects aren't as obvious or may not seem as serious, they might well tolerate.
Sooooo.... you've never had a Christmas tree then? And celebrate Jesus' birth when he was actually born and not in Dec? Oh and I must point out that the idea that that catholic church os the only one with pedophiles is naive. Who said that? There has been scandal after scandal regarding pastors of various churches of late. My SOP is to be suspicious of anyone proclaiming their Christianity loudly. I figure they are most likely scam artists. The best practitioners of Christianity I have been exposed to have been laypeople who lived their beliefs.
The Catholic Church though has this thing where you are not allowed to question their authority or leadership. Parishioners are to blindly do what their leaders say. When My kids were in grade school, I lost my ability to swallow the BS and did not trust them with my kids. Apparently I was right to be suspicious, as it is coming to light now that their unethical practices did indeed continue.
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Post by justme on Nov 15, 2018 11:39:54 GMT -5
Sooooo.... you've never had a Christmas tree then? And celebrate Jesus' birth when he was actually born and not in Dec? Oh and I must point out that the idea that that catholic church os the only one with pedophiles is naive. Who said that? There has been scandal after scandal regarding pastors of various churches of late. My SOP is to be suspicious of anyone proclaiming their Christianity loudly. I figure they are most likely scam artists. The best practitioners of Christianity I have been exposed to have been laypeople who lived their beliefs.
The Catholic Church though has this thing where you are not allowed to question their authority or leadership. Parishioners are to blindly do what their leaders say. When My kids were in grade school, I lost my ability to swallow the BS and did not trust them with my kids. Apparently I was right to be suspicious, as it is coming to light now that their unethical practices did indeed continue.
Just that he only mentioned Catholic. Could be a reason he only mentioned that sect, but I'm not sure.
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Post by bean29 on Nov 15, 2018 12:00:12 GMT -5
Who said that? There has been scandal after scandal regarding pastors of various churches of late. My SOP is to be suspicious of anyone proclaiming their Christianity loudly. I figure they are most likely scam artists. The best practitioners of Christianity I have been exposed to have been laypeople who lived their beliefs.
The Catholic Church though has this thing where you are not allowed to question their authority or leadership. Parishioners are to blindly do what their leaders say. When My kids were in grade school, I lost my ability to swallow the BS and did not trust them with my kids. Apparently I was right to be suspicious, as it is coming to light now that their unethical practices did indeed continue.
Just that he only mentioned Catholic. Could be a reason he only mentioned that sect, but I'm not sure. Given that the pastor yammering about opening yourself up to the Devil is an Assembly of God Pastor, I am going to assume that b/c Virgil says he was raised catholic, he used them as an example b/c it is a "Devil" he knows so to speak. I can assure you that I have been to a handful of Yoga Classes, and there has never been anything that even remotely resembles devil worship going on. I think there are a lot of things pastors should be more concerned about than people using Yoga for relaxation/meditation/exercise. Maybe they should preach about feeding the poor/providing medical care to the poor/providing shelter for the poor.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 15, 2018 12:05:48 GMT -5
Just that he only mentioned Catholic. Could be a reason he only mentioned that sect, but I'm not sure. Given that the pastor yammering about opening yourself up to the Devil is an Assembly of God Pastor, I am going to assume that b/c Virgil says he was raised catholic, he used them as an example b/c it is a "Devil" he knows so to speak. I can assure you that I have been to a handful of Yoga Classes, and there has never been anything that even remotely resembles devil worship going on. I think there are a lot of things pastors should be more concerned about than people using Yoga for relaxation/meditation/exercise. Maybe they should preach about feeding the poor/providing medical care to the poor/providing shelter for the poor. You say that as if Christians actually give a shit about people who are suffering.
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Post by swamp on Nov 15, 2018 12:09:35 GMT -5
Just that he only mentioned Catholic. Could be a reason he only mentioned that sect, but I'm not sure. Given that the pastor yammering about opening yourself up to the Devil is an Assembly of God Pastor, I am going to assume that b/c Virgil says he was raised catholic, he used them as an example b/c it is a "Devil" he knows so to speak. I can assure you that I have been to a handful of Yoga Classes, and there has never been anything that even remotely resembles devil worship going on. I think there are a lot of things pastors should be more concerned about than people using Yoga for relaxation/meditation/exercise. Maybe they should preach about feeding the poor/providing medical care to the poor/providing shelter for the poor. That would require them to get off their asses and mingle with the yucky people. It's much easier to rail about stupid shit like yoga from the comfort of your toasty pulpit.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Nov 15, 2018 12:14:54 GMT -5
Absolutely. The Catholic Church has piled up sins through the ages, and many false doctrines. This is one of the reasons I left the Catholic Church decades ago. Regarding the two issues--pagan practices and pedophilia--there is a key difference in that the former is performed openly by parishioners and the latter is performed in secret by the ministry. My parents are both Catholic and, like most Catholics, they'd run a priest guilty of pedophilia out of town on a rail if the sin became known. But something like Yoga, whose pagan aspects aren't as obvious or may not seem as serious, they might well tolerate.
Sooooo.... you've never had a Christmas tree then? And celebrate Jesus' birth when he was actually born and not in Dec? Oh and I must point out that the idea that that catholic church os the only one with pedophiles is naive. Indeed I had Christmas trees while I was a youth, but in my ignorance. I eschewed Christmas when I learned its origins, as should all Christians. If you want to know what I think of Christmas, both religious and secular: As for your latter point: I imagine many churches, especially those that forbid priests/pastors from marrying and/or operate under massive, opaque bureaucracies, have to contend with pedophilia behind closed doors. The degree to which the practice affects--or possibly even corrupts--everyday parishioners, I can't say. One thing that can be said about the Catholic Church is that it's so large, different "parts" of it (for example, different dioceses) can have entirely different cultures. For example, my parents attend services with a small congregation in rural British Columbia. The Church itself is run and maintained by the community. It's so far removed from the politics, scandals, wealth, and vulgar profligacy of the Vatican, the two might as well not even belong to the same organization save for common doctrine. I don't judge my parents for refusing to leave their church because somewhere, sometime, in some other diocese, priests are committing evil behind closed doors. I've implored them to look at the doctrines of the Catholic Church that give rise to such evils, but their stance is that problems of the church out yonder are far removed from their parish in BC. Having attended services with them on many occasions, I can't say otherwise. What I can say is that the scandals in the Vatican haven't affected BC parishioners' views on pedophilia one iota, which would be my biggest concern.
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Post by thyme4change on Nov 15, 2018 12:18:40 GMT -5
I wish the Christians would all give up on making Christmas religious. It never has been. All this griping about "it used to be" is totally false. Sure, Christmas felt special and innocent when you were a kid, but feels hassled and stressed as an adult - but every generation going back to Dickens has said that.
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Post by weltschmerz on Nov 15, 2018 14:20:53 GMT -5
Virgil, you don't celebrate Easter (Ishtar), which sprung from paganism, worshiping the goddess of fertility?
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