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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 28, 2018 13:04:48 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 13:11:07 GMT -5
So there WILL be an FBI investigation?
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Post by Jaguar on Sept 28, 2018 13:14:39 GMT -5
Only one week, that's shit!
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 28, 2018 13:25:25 GMT -5
But McConnell controls the timing of the floor vote, I read somewhere.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 13:26:08 GMT -5
Only one week, that's shit! Well, a lot can happen in a week. The ABA withdrawing their support without an FBI investigation is significant. If he is confirmed, it will be the first time, in history, that a justice was seated without the recommendation of the ABA. That has never happened before.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 28, 2018 13:28:48 GMT -5
But McConnell controls the timing of the floor vote, I read somewhere. but if Flake refuses to vote yes, that's almost enough to not confirm. so...
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 13:31:22 GMT -5
But McConnell controls the timing of the floor vote, I read somewhere. but if Flake refuses to vote yes, that's almost enough to not confirm. so... If Flake refuses to vote and one other Rep votes no, shouldn’t that put this nomination in the toilet where it belongs? Actually if another Rep senator joins Flake in refusing to vote, wouldn’t that beenough to sink it?
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 28, 2018 13:33:52 GMT -5
I think they only need two, yes. and I've seen in a number of places that Collins, Murkowski, Donnelly, and one other will all vote the same. well, Donnelly has already indicated he's a no. that's promising.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 28, 2018 13:34:40 GMT -5
But McConnell controls the timing of the floor vote, I read somewhere. but if Flake refuses to vote yes, that's almost enough to not confirm. so... the GOP can afford to lose 1 vote, assuming that no Dems vote yes. The VP is the tie breaker. I'm aware of 4 unknowns, 2 GOP and 2 Dems. ETA Collins, Murkowski and Heitcamp are the ones I remember.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 28, 2018 13:37:01 GMT -5
Heitcamp sounds familiar. but the two ladies and Donnelly for sure.
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Post by Wisconsin Beth on Sept 28, 2018 13:40:14 GMT -5
AP is listing Manchin, from WV as an undecided. They don't list Heitcamp, who I think is N. Dakota?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 13:40:44 GMT -5
Donnelly is encouraging; there are a few other red state Dems.....and a “no” could cost them their seat
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Post by Jaguar on Sept 28, 2018 13:41:29 GMT -5
Only one week, that's shit! Well, a lot can happen in a week. The ABA withdrawing their support without an FBI investigation is significant. If he is confirmed, it will be the first time, in history, that a justice was seated without the recommendation of the ABA. That has never happened before. Thanks for that. I'm here just pissed over all this, I feel so strongly for the women and teens that have been raped.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 28, 2018 16:19:54 GMT -5
So there WILL be an FBI investigation? Don't be so sure. Jeff Flake has not had the balls to follow through on any of the shit he says. If they push, he will cave. He talks a big game, but he has not voted even one single time against the current GOP. I have no doubt his future career depends on keeping a few friends on the red side of the aisle. He won't fuck this up for them.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2018 16:23:54 GMT -5
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 16:24:54 GMT -5
Woot!
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2018 16:27:28 GMT -5
The repubs are desperate for the female vote.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 28, 2018 16:27:46 GMT -5
Okay liberals, this is important. Get out your bat signals and send messages in code through the approved network to make sure all our deep state actors will sabotage this guy!
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 28, 2018 16:40:56 GMT -5
The repubs are desperate for the female vote. They haven’t done much to earn it
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 28, 2018 16:45:05 GMT -5
The repubs are desperate for the female vote. They haven’t done much to earn it That is true.
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Post by moon/Laura on Sept 28, 2018 17:00:59 GMT -5
The repubs are desperate for the female vote. They haven’t done much to earn it they've done *nothing* to earn it, IMO.
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Post by kadee79 on Sept 28, 2018 21:33:30 GMT -5
So there WILL be an FBI investigation? Don't be so sure. Jeff Flake has not had the balls to follow through on any of the shit he says. If they push, he will cave. He talks a big game, but he has not voted even one single time against the current GOP. I have no doubt his future career depends on keeping a few friends on the red side of the aisle. He won't fuck this up for them. This is soooo true. Flake is all talk & no action, he always folds in the end!
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 28, 2018 22:30:25 GMT -5
Yea,, I think he is one of you!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 28, 2018 22:32:48 GMT -5
I think he wanted to be a real cowboy like McCain,,, but he doesn't even own a horse, can't ride! He did buy some nice chaps with rhinestones and glitter on them though!!
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 29, 2018 16:46:45 GMT -5
I think he wanted to be a real cowboy like McCain,,, but he doesn't even own a horse, can't ride! He did buy some nice chaps with rhinestones and glitter on them though!!
I like to point out when OC and I agree.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 29, 2018 21:10:12 GMT -5
Ahem. It appears Trump, through McGhan, has put limitations on the FBI investigation. Constraints have been placed on who can be questioned (Ms. Swetnick will not be) and the FBI has, purportedly, been given a list of those to whom they can talk.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 29, 2018 21:29:57 GMT -5
Ahem. It appears Trump, through McGhan, has put limitations on the FBI investigation. Constraints have been placed on who can be questioned (Ms. Swetnick will not be) and the FBI has, purportedly, been given a list of those to whom they can talk. So the “FBI investigation” is just a sham. The WH is denying the report. But we’ll kniw soon enough who is telling the truth, if Swetnick is -or is not- interviewed.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 29, 2018 21:32:55 GMT -5
Ahem. It appears Trump, through McGhan, has put limitations on the FBI investigation. Constraints have been placed on who can be questioned (Ms. Swetnick will not be) and the FBI has, purportedly, been given a list of those to whom they can talk. So the “FBI investigation” is just a sham. The WH is denying the report. But we’ll kniw soon enough who is telling the truth, if Swetnick is -or is not- interviewed. Avenatti, Ms. Swetnick's attorney, has said she has not been contacted by the FBI, only Ms. Ramirez has. He also said Ms. Swetnick will bring her story to the American people if she is not included in the investigation. Don't know how that would be presented. I'd guess through television. Avenatti said he'll give more details at a later date.
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 29, 2018 22:29:46 GMT -5
WH is forbidding the FBI from:
– probing Julie Swetnick's claims
– interviewing new leads
– examining BK's drinking habits
– verifying Judge's summer job
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 30, 2018 2:40:44 GMT -5
I actually can understand not including Swetnick. She is not accusing Kav of sexual assault.
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