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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Sept 21, 2018 13:13:00 GMT -5
"The Guardian reported Thursday that a prominent professor at Yale Law School told a group of students last year that if they wanted to clerk for Brett Kavanaugh, they should consider their appearances, as it was “not an accident” that his female law clerks “looked like models.” .... The Guardian report said that Chua reportedly told female law students preparing for interviews with Kavanaugh that they ought to dress in a traditionally attractive, feminine way for the judge. Her husband, Jed Rubenfeld, handed the same advice out to a female student, telling her that Kavanaugh liked a “certain look.” One former student said Chua told her to send photos of what she planned to wear so Chua could give advice on the outfit, according to another report from HuffPost." slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/amy-chua-advice-brett-kavanaugh-clerks-report.html
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Post by swamp on Sept 21, 2018 13:16:33 GMT -5
why does this not surprise me.......
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 21, 2018 13:27:35 GMT -5
"The Guardian reported Thursday that a prominent professor at Yale Law School told a group of students last year that if they wanted to clerk for Brett Kavanaugh, they should consider their appearances, as it was “not an accident” that his female law clerks “looked like models.” .... The Guardian report said that Chua reportedly told female law students preparing for interviews with Kavanaugh that they ought to dress in a traditionally attractive, feminine way for the judge. Her husband, Jed Rubenfeld, handed the same advice out to a female student, telling her that Kavanaugh liked a “certain look.” One former student said Chua told her to send photos of what she planned to wear so Chua could give advice on the outfit, according to another report from HuffPost." slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/09/amy-chua-advice-brett-kavanaugh-clerks-report.htmlThis is the guy Republicans claim can make fair decisions about women’s health and rights.
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Post by Jaguar on Sept 21, 2018 13:32:02 GMT -5
I'm really disliking all GOP right now, just plain stupid, stupid and more stupid.
Make sure you all register to vote and help your neighbors get there as well. Come voting day there has to be a wall/wave of blue descend upon the whole USA. Bring sanity back, please!
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Post by swamp on Sept 21, 2018 13:33:00 GMT -5
Newsflash: Good looking people, especially women, get more job opportunities.
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Post by Tiny on Sept 21, 2018 14:08:33 GMT -5
Yeah, but there's a certain amount of lasciviousness to requiring that your hired help look like models.
Especially when, unlike Hooters or the local Strip Club, there's no physical attribute requirements and official dress requirements around "looking sexy" in the Employee Handbook.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 21, 2018 14:11:04 GMT -5
Yeah, but there's a certain amount of lasciviousness to requiring that your hired help look like models. Especially when, unlike Hooters or the local Strip Club, there's no physical attribute requirements and official dress requirements around "looking sexy" in the Employee Handbook. Nail. On. Head.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 21, 2018 15:21:20 GMT -5
Newsflash: Good looking people, especially women, get more job opportunities. Looking your best for a job interview is one thing.
Someone culling the potential pool of law clerks of the 'uggos' in order to have some nice T and A to ogle around the office is another.
If the person had said "The judge expects traditional professional clothing, wear a suit jacket and skirt in a neutral color, and hose and close toe, low heel pumps" that's just trying to prevent the female clerks from showing up in leggings or a very short skirt. Very good advice.
Suggesting they try to look 'feminine' and 'like models,' however, veers into the 'daddy likes to see a pretty face' turf.
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Post by Opti on Sept 21, 2018 16:01:42 GMT -5
Newsflash: Good looking people, especially women, get more job opportunities. Looking your best for a job interview is one thing.
Someone culling the potential pool of law clerks of the 'uggos' in order to have some nice T and A to ogle around the office is another.
If the person had said "The judge expects traditional professional clothing, wear a suit jacket and skirt in a neutral color, and hose and close toe, low heel pumps" that's just trying to prevent the female clerks from showing up in leggings or a very short skirt. Very good advice.
Suggesting they try to look 'feminine' and 'like models,' however, veers into the 'daddy likes to see a pretty face' turf.
Sad thing is this is not uncommon as I'd like even among women managers. One of the former PT receptionist's at my job used to note on how admissions folk dressed almost like high priced hookers. Tight dresses and usually high heels 3 to 5 inches in height. Some people see that as business dress.
I have a hard time with it, because I am not a dress person generally, and how is it professional if it looks like a date night get up? I really think women's business rules are still too based on the past when women were not allowed to be anything better than a secretary and expected to look decorative. Kind of like the beginning in the Mad Men TV series.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 21, 2018 16:20:59 GMT -5
Looking your best for a job interview is one thing.
Someone culling the potential pool of law clerks of the 'uggos' in order to have some nice T and A to ogle around the office is another.
If the person had said "The judge expects traditional professional clothing, wear a suit jacket and skirt in a neutral color, and hose and close toe, low heel pumps" that's just trying to prevent the female clerks from showing up in leggings or a very short skirt. Very good advice.
Suggesting they try to look 'feminine' and 'like models,' however, veers into the 'daddy likes to see a pretty face' turf.
Sad thing is this is not uncommon as I'd like even among women managers. One of the former PT receptionist's at my job used to note on how admissions folk dressed almost like high priced hookers. Tight dresses and usually high heels 3 to 5 inches in height. Some people see that as business dress.
I have a hard time with it, because I am not a dress person generally, and how is it professional if it looks like a date night get up? I really think women's business rules are still too based on the past when women were not allowed to be anything better than a secretary and expected to look decorative. Kind of like the beginning in the Mad Men TV series.
No kidding! Why, there are some here who think flight attendants should be pretty! Clearly, if you're not model-pretty, you can't do the job. I think it's a Republican thing.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 21, 2018 17:58:05 GMT -5
Newsflash: Good looking people, especially women, get more job opportunities. Looking your best for a job interview is one thing.
Someone culling the potential pool of law clerks of the 'uggos' in order to have some nice T and A to ogle around the office is another.
If the person had said "The judge expects traditional professional clothing, wear a suit jacket and skirt in a neutral color, and hose and close toe, low heel pumps" that's just trying to prevent the female clerks from showing up in leggings or a very short skirt. Very good advice.
Suggesting they try to look 'feminine' and 'like models,' however, veers into the 'daddy likes to see a pretty face' turf.
I know law school students. I can't imagine any of them stupid enough to show up in leggings for an interview with a federal judge, and if they did, great, now you know they are dumbasses. He is an appeals judge in DC. I bet his clerks are all too of the class Harvard / Yale types. They don't need to be told to dress appropriately for a normal person. I am sick of guys like this.
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Post by moon/Laura on Sept 21, 2018 18:24:24 GMT -5
And he would have us believe that he's too upstanding to have *ever* attempted to sexually assault someone.
I'm thinking he hasn't really changed all that much.
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