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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 19, 2018 17:25:53 GMT -5
This is why Republicans are trying to ram through a vote and avoid an FBI investigation. Before more of these stories emerge.
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 19, 2018 19:32:19 GMT -5
From the mouth of a righteous conservative : "Franklin Graham, a son of the famed late preacher Billy Graham, has chimed in about the sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.
And according to this Christian evangelist and humanitarian, the accusation is simply “not relevant.”
“It’s just a shame that a person like Judge Kavanaugh who has a stellar record — that somebody can bring something up that he did when he was a teenager close to 40 years ago,” Franklin Graham said in an interview Tuesday with the Christian Broadcasting Network. “That’s not relevant.”" www.yahoo.com/news/preacher-franklin-graham-claims-brett-203404970.html
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Post by sesfw on Sept 19, 2018 20:53:14 GMT -5
I think it's very sad and funny the powers that are against the SC nominee had to go back to his HIGH SCHOOL years to find any dirt on him.
Diane Feinstein is a real piece of work.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 19, 2018 21:21:10 GMT -5
It “isn’t relative” that an accused rapist is being pushed onto the Supreme Court where he will have power and control over the lives and health of millions of women. Franklin Graham is one vile piece of work
You’d think the Republicans would have had the FBI involved yesterday..... What are they afraid of?
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 20, 2018 0:03:52 GMT -5
It “isn’t relative” that an accused rapist is being pushed onto the Supreme Court where he will have power and control over the lives and health of millions of women. Franklin Graham is one vile piece of work You’d think the Republicans would have had the FBI involved yesterday..... What are they afraid of? So now he raped the young woman??
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Post by bean29 on Sept 20, 2018 7:20:01 GMT -5
It “isn’t relative” that an accused rapist is being pushed onto the Supreme Court where he will have power and control over the lives and health of millions of women. Franklin Graham is one vile piece of work You’d think the Republicans would have had the FBI involved yesterday..... What are they afraid of? So now he raped the young woman?? Not Relevant! When will Republican Women Assert for their rights and the rights of their Daughters! OC it is not like this is the only acceptable candidate out there, or that there is any Rush, there was no rush to fill the last vacancy!
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Post by swamp on Sept 20, 2018 7:25:35 GMT -5
I think it's very sad and funny the powers that are against the SC nominee had to go back to his HIGH SCHOOL years to find any dirt on him. Diane Feinstein is a real piece of work. WEll, since he won't release most of the requested information, we really don't know if there is any dirt prior to HS.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 20, 2018 7:46:07 GMT -5
Why is it men (and women) who were sexually molested or assaulted 30-40 years ago when they were children and teens by Catholic priests are believed yet a woman who alleges she was sexually assaulted as a teenager by another teenager thirty years ago is not to be believed by some because the one accused of sexual assault is a supreme court nominee?
All the parties accusing sexual assault can remember part or all of the events. Yet we believe one group and some, not the other. Why?
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 20, 2018 7:53:26 GMT -5
So now he raped the young woman?? Not Relevant! When will Republican Women Assert for their rights and the rights of their Daughters! OC it is not like this is the only acceptable candidate out there, or that there is any Rush, there was no rush to fill the last vacancy! Bean, the only reason this is being delayed is the Democrats hope to stall this off until the election, with the hope that they will gain enough seats in the house, to stop his nomination! Here is what is going to happen, If they succeed is derailing the nomination, keeping Kavanaugh out, all the sexual allegations will disappear over night. whether they are true or not. On the other hand, if he is sent to the Supreme court, this will follow him forever, true or not! I have no problem with him dropping out,, having a more radical judge take his place..
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Post by swamp on Sept 20, 2018 7:54:20 GMT -5
Not Relevant! When will Republican Women Assert for their rights and the rights of their Daughters! OC it is not like this is the only acceptable candidate out there, or that there is any Rush, there was no rush to fill the last vacancy! Bean, the only reason this is being delayed is the Democrats hope to stall this off until the election, with the hope that they will gain enough seats in the house, to stop his nomination! Here is what is going to happen, If they succeed is derailing the nomination, keeping Kavanaugh out, all the sexual allegations will disappear over night. whether they are true or not. On the other hand, if he is sent to the Supreme court, this will follow him forever, true or not! I have no problem with him dropping out,, having a more radical judge take his place..
Kind of like how Merrick Garland's appointment was delayed for about 10 months so a different president could appoint someone.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 20, 2018 7:57:04 GMT -5
Bean, the only reason this is being delayed is the Democrats hope to stall this off until the election, with the hope that they will gain enough seats in the house, to stop his nomination! Here is what is going to happen, If they succeed is derailing the nomination, keeping Kavanaugh out, all the sexual allegations will disappear over night. whether they are true or not. On the other hand, if he is sent to the Supreme court, this will follow him forever, true or not! I have no problem with him dropping out,, having a more radical judge take his place..
Kind of like how Merrick Garland's appointment was delayed for about 10 months so a different president could appoint someone. It could be delayed for ever,, since we the people have declared political war on each other!
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Post by bean29 on Sept 20, 2018 10:02:17 GMT -5
Not Relevant! When will Republican Women Assert for their rights and the rights of their Daughters! OC it is not like this is the only acceptable candidate out there, or that there is any Rush, there was no rush to fill the last vacancy! Bean, the only reason this is being delayed is the Democrats hope to stall this off until the election, with the hope that they will gain enough seats in the house, to stop his nomination! Here is what is going to happen, If they succeed is derailing the nomination, keeping Kavanaugh out, all the sexual allegations will disappear over night. whether they are true or not. On the other hand, if he is sent to the Supreme court, this will follow him forever, true or not! I have no problem with him dropping out,, having a more radical judge take his place..
This is not a squeaky clean good candidate. That is why 90% of his record is being hidden. I could just barf that some conservatives are advocating that A Good Christian's past should be overlooked. How does sexual assault = Good Christian? How does lying under oath = good Christian. So if the serial molesters from the Catholic Church goes to the surpreme court- Kavanaugh will let them off b/c it was in the past, no longer relevant? Apparently, Women do not have equal rights in the Conservative Party. It is all about Men and their Needs and wants right?
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 20, 2018 10:06:05 GMT -5
Bean, the only reason this is being delayed is the Democrats hope to stall this off until the election, with the hope that they will gain enough seats in the house, to stop his nomination! Here is what is going to happen, If they succeed is derailing the nomination, keeping Kavanaugh out, all the sexual allegations will disappear over night. whether they are true or not. On the other hand, if he is sent to the Supreme court, this will follow him forever, true or not! I have no problem with him dropping out,, having a more radical judge take his place..
This is not a squeaky clean good candidate. That is why 90% of his record is being hidden. I could just barf that some conservatives are advocating that A Good Christian's past should be overlooked. How does sexual assault = Good Christian? How does lying under oath = good Christian. So if the serial molesters from the Catholic Church goes to the surpreme court- Kavanaugh will let them off b/c it was in the past, no longer relevant? Apparently, Women do not have equal rights in the Conservative Party. It is all about Men and their Needs and wants right? They want a patriarchy with wimmen being kept in their place.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 20, 2018 10:09:32 GMT -5
Kind of like how Merrick Garland's appointment was delayed for about 10 months so a different president could appoint someone. It could be delayed for ever,, since we the people have declared political war on each other! Maybe we should work to bring peace by not being so nasty, making so many sarcastic comments, not dismissing each other's thoughts in nasty ways, and not misrepresenting other people's positions in order to gain advantage.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 20, 2018 10:13:17 GMT -5
It could be delayed for ever,, since we the people have declared political war on each other! Maybe we should work to bring peace by not being so nasty, making so many sarcastic comments, not dismissing each other's thoughts in nasty ways, and not misrepresenting other people's positions in order to gain advantage. Trying to be nice to trumpets has not worked out so well. but back to the SC issue, I'm sure the Heritage Foundation has binders full of white, conservative men they could put on the SC. Why THIS particular one? Unless it's because they are sure he'll protect a president found guilty of wrong doing. Otherwise, why not just pull another name out to take away womens' rights?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Sept 20, 2018 10:14:32 GMT -5
The GOP double standard. 8 years of nothing for Obama to hey let's work together.
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 20, 2018 10:20:06 GMT -5
Bean, the only reason this is being delayed is the Democrats hope to stall this off until the election, with the hope that they will gain enough seats in the house, to stop his nomination! Here is what is going to happen, If they succeed is derailing the nomination, keeping Kavanaugh out, all the sexual allegations will disappear over night. whether they are true or not. On the other hand, if he is sent to the Supreme court, this will follow him forever, true or not! I have no problem with him dropping out,, having a more radical judge take his place..
This is not a squeaky clean good candidate. That is why 90% of his record is being hidden. I could just barf that some conservatives are advocating that A Good Christian's past should be overlooked. How does sexual assault = Good Christian? How does lying under oath = good Christian. So if the serial molesters from the Catholic Church goes to the surpreme court- Kavanaugh will let them off b/c it was in the past, no longer relevant? Apparently, Women do not have equal rights in the Conservative Party. It is all about Men and their Needs and wants right? I did not think he was being past off as a "Good Christian" where did you find that? Hidden records?? The Staff Secretary is a position in the White House Office responsible for managing paper flow to the President and circulating documents among senior staff for comment. It has been referred to as "the nerve center of the White House."
did not write any opinions!!
Women rights? He investigated Clinton's assault on Monica! urged Impeachment! Maybe that is why the Democrats are going after him,, the Impeachment!!
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Post by OldCoyote on Sept 20, 2018 10:36:25 GMT -5
Ok, what is the score on this, We have the accuser Ms. Ford, We now have a classmate that really did not know her but heard something about this!
That is 1-1/2 for the accuser. On the other side, we have Kavanaugh,, who denies everything,,
We have Judge, who denies everything, We have two other known but un named people that won't return an calls,, meaning they don't want any part in this! We have sixty five people that have worked right with Kavanaugh,, that only have the highest regard for him! Looks like 69 to 1-1/2,, score is a little lopsided! The American Bar Association (ABA) unanimously gave its highest rating to Judge Kavanaugh.
That is not counting the Bar.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2018 10:43:25 GMT -5
what rating did they give Bork?
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Post by swamp on Sept 20, 2018 11:17:26 GMT -5
You can be a good judge but still have attempted to rape someone as a teen.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 20, 2018 11:30:23 GMT -5
You can be a good judge but still have attempted to rape someone as a teen. Can you be a FAIR Supreme Court justice with regards to women if you’ve already lied under oath and been credibly accused of attempted rape?
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Post by Opti on Sept 20, 2018 11:30:57 GMT -5
I think it's very sad and funny the powers that are against the SC nominee had to go back to his HIGH SCHOOL years to find any dirt on him. Diane Feinstein is a real piece of work. Powers that be? An individual came forward, that's not a powers that be issue. Plus, you may be different than many, I still care about sex crimes, assault, and murder no matter at what age it was committed. And the explanation around such things matters especially if there is no regret and no obvious turn to be a better human being.
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Post by swamp on Sept 20, 2018 11:50:10 GMT -5
You can be a good judge but still have attempted to rape someone as a teen. Can you be a FAIR Supreme Court justice with regards to women if you’ve already lied under oath and been credibly accused of attempted rape? Lied under oath? No. Judge for contracts, torts, adn other boring stuff? Probably. For civil rights issues? No.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 20, 2018 17:42:57 GMT -5
Republicans are taking Ford's claim against Kavanaugh seriously: GOP congressman jokes about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being groped — by Abraham LincolnIn his opening statements at an election debate Thursday, a South Carolina congressman kicked things off with a joke. “Did y’all hear this latest late-breaking news on the Kavanaugh hearings?” Rep. Ralph Norman (R) asked the audience at a Kiwanis club in his district. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg came out saying she was groped by Abraham Lincoln.” GOP congressman jokes about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being groped — by Abraham LincolnI wonder if that's how the congressman feels about all women and sexual assault and rape against them.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 20, 2018 17:54:30 GMT -5
Republicans are taking Ford's claim against Kavanaugh seriously: GOP congressman jokes about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being groped — by Abraham LincolnIn his opening statements at an election debate Thursday, a South Carolina congressman kicked things off with a joke. “Did y’all hear this latest late-breaking news on the Kavanaugh hearings?” Rep. Ralph Norman (R) asked the audience at a Kiwanis club in his district. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg came out saying she was groped by Abraham Lincoln.” GOP congressman jokes about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being groped — by Abraham LincolnI wonder if that's how the congressman feels about all women and sexual assault and rape against them. And they can't figure out why women dislike them and don't trust them?
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 20, 2018 18:10:46 GMT -5
Ok, what is the score on this, We have the accuser Ms. Ford, We now have a classmate that really did not know her but heard something about this!
That is 1-1/2 for the accuser. On the other side, we have Kavanaugh,, who denies everything,,
We have Judge, who denies everything, We have two other known but un named people that won't return an calls,, meaning they don't want any part in this! We have sixty five people that have worked right with Kavanaugh,, that only have the highest regard for him! Looks like 69 to 1-1/2,, score is a little lopsided! The American Bar Association (ABA) unanimously gave its highest rating to Judge Kavanaugh.
That is not counting the Bar.
For all your howling, pissing and moaning about people who have lied under oath, you support Kavanaugh? Hypocrisy. You speak out of both sides of your face. Allegations Against Kavanaugh Must Be Investigated, as Must His Lies Under Oath Senator Grassley is rushing things because he knows a thorough inquiry could derail the Kavanaugh nomination. www.thenation.com/article/allegations-against-kavanaugh-must-be-investigated-as-must-his-lies-under-oath/
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Post by Opti on Sept 20, 2018 18:45:17 GMT -5
Republicans are taking Ford's claim against Kavanaugh seriously: GOP congressman jokes about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being groped — by Abraham LincolnIn his opening statements at an election debate Thursday, a South Carolina congressman kicked things off with a joke. “Did y’all hear this latest late-breaking news on the Kavanaugh hearings?” Rep. Ralph Norman (R) asked the audience at a Kiwanis club in his district. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg came out saying she was groped by Abraham Lincoln.” GOP congressman jokes about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being groped — by Abraham LincolnI wonder if that's how the congressman feels about all women and sexual assault and rape against them. What we need is someone to do a counter joke in public. Maybe something about either his home being destroyed in the floods or how it was spared because he lived in a rich area. IDK, but someone like that deserves being a butt of an equally mean spirited "joke".
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Post by Opti on Sept 20, 2018 18:48:23 GMT -5
Ok, what is the score on this, We have the accuser Ms. Ford, We now have a classmate that really did not know her but heard something about this!
That is 1-1/2 for the accuser. On the other side, we have Kavanaugh,, who denies everything,,
We have Judge, who denies everything, We have two other known but un named people that won't return an calls,, meaning they don't want any part in this! We have sixty five people that have worked right with Kavanaugh,, that only have the highest regard for him! Looks like 69 to 1-1/2,, score is a little lopsided! The American Bar Association (ABA) unanimously gave its highest rating to Judge Kavanaugh.
That is not counting the Bar.
For all your howling, pissing and moaning about people who have lied under oath, you support Kavanaugh? Hypocrisy. You speak out of both sides of your face. Allegations Against Kavanaugh Must Be Investigated, as Must His Lies Under Oath Senator Grassley is rushing things because he knows a thorough inquiry could derail the Kavanaugh nomination. www.thenation.com/article/allegations-against-kavanaugh-must-be-investigated-as-must-his-lies-under-oath/I have to say AS, you count awfully weird. When its a private crime between two or just a few people, most of everyone else's opinion does not count. Its opinion. They weren't there, they don't know shit. They are either guessing or hoping, but the bottom line is they. do. not know.
So last I checked it is really 1 vs 1, unless someone knows things I haven't read or heard about yet. The nomination needs to be slowed down, this is a flawed candidate and appears to be unworthy of a SC appointment.
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Post by Gardening Grandma on Sept 20, 2018 18:54:21 GMT -5
Republicans are taking Ford's claim against Kavanaugh seriously: GOP congressman jokes about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being groped — by Abraham LincolnIn his opening statements at an election debate Thursday, a South Carolina congressman kicked things off with a joke. “Did y’all hear this latest late-breaking news on the Kavanaugh hearings?” Rep. Ralph Norman (R) asked the audience at a Kiwanis club in his district. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg came out saying she was groped by Abraham Lincoln.” GOP congressman jokes about Ruth Bader Ginsburg being groped — by Abraham LincolnI wonder if that's how the congressman feels about all women and sexual assault and rape against them. What we need is someone to do a counter joke in public. Maybe something about either his home being destroyed in the floods or how it was spared because he lived in a rich area. IDK, but someone like that deserves being a butt of an equally mean spirited "joke".
Idiot.
Trump beat you to it. Looking at a man’s home badly damaged and a boat in his yard, trump asked the owner if it was his boat. When the homeowner said “no”, trump replied “ Well, at least you got a nice boat out if the deal” Aren’t floods just hilarious!
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