Can I have birth control?

[kadee79]

This came across another gal's facebook feed.  No idea who wrote it but it had permission to share it all over.

TRUTH, especially for single mothers and/or people with no or little family or community support, like grandparents:

Women: "Can I have birth control?"

Congress: "No."

Women: "I couldn't get birth control so I got pregnant. Can I have an abortion?"

Congress: "No."

Women: "You prevented me from having an abortion so I'm carrying the fetus, but my employer won't provide reasonable accommodations and is threatening to fire me. Would you please pass the Pregnant Workers Fairness Act?"

Congress: "No"

Women: "I had the baby, but I'm out of work. Can I have WIC and food stamps until I get back on my feet?"

Congress: "No."

Women: "I found a job, but it doesn't offer me insurance. Can I have government guaranteed insurance?"

Congress: "No."

Women: "My kid got sick and I got fired because I missed time caring for him/her. Can I get unemployment?"

Congress: "No."

Women: "I'm having a hard time getting my kid from school consistently. Can we fund after-school programs?"

Congress: "No."

Women: I'm prepared to work to support my family. Can you make sure that a full-time job's minimum wage is enough to do that?

Them: No. But what's the matter with you and your family, that working two jobs can't lift you out of poverty? And what kind of a mother are you, letting someone else watch your child while you work? If your child doesn't do well in school or gets in trouble, it's entirely your fault. You shouldn't have had a child if you weren't prepared to take care of him/her."

Please copy and share.

[phil5185]

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Congress: "No."

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

[thyme4change]

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Congress: "No."

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

I don't think there is a $15/month pill at a pharmacy unless you have insurance. Planned Parenthood used to make sure anyone could get pills, but since the government wont pay them for services they give to people who have Medicaid, I am not sure of their current level of service.

[Gardening Grandma]

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Congress: "No."

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

1) $15 is the minimum - the range is $15 to $50
2) You can’t  buy BC pills without a pexcription. So add a min of $50 for a dr’s office visit
3) You can’t take BC bills if you have certain conditions - so you’ll need another (more expensive method)
4) In some places, you can visit a Planned Parenthood office and get free or low cost birth control but Republicans are working very hard to shut down Planned Parenthood 
5) As a male who will never have to deal with the consequences of an unplanned pregnancy, maybe you have no business spouting nonsense about it. You don’t have a fucking clue what you are talking about.

[kadee79]

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Congress: "No."

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

Sure if you do a few things first...like YOU take precautions!  Then you pay for the Dr. visit to get the script and the transportation to Walmart to have it filled.
And then since YOU/the man didn't bother with precautions...you babysit, you pay for child care, you buy it food, you pay for it's health care and find the woman a decent job that pays enough to support herself & any children she might have.

I've been there, until you have...you have no idea what you are talking about!

[thyme4change]

We need Vasagel!

If I will the gazillion dollar lottery, I will find it and get it through the FDA and to market.

[bean29]

Sept 15, 2018 11:13:48 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

I don't think there is a $15/month pill at a pharmacy unless you have insurance. Planned Parenthood used to make sure anyone could get pills, but since the government wont pay them for services they give to people who have Medicaid, I am not sure of their current level of service.

Besides that, a birth control subscription requires an annual physical and a pap smear. Idk what the cost is without insurance, but lets guess at least $150-200 + time off of work.

[bean29]

Sept 15, 2018 13:57:40 GMT -5 bean29 said:

Sept 15, 2018 11:13:48 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

I don't think there is a $15/month pill at a pharmacy unless you have insurance. Planned Parenthood used to make sure anyone could get pills, but since the government wont pay them for services they give to people who have Medicaid, I am not sure of their current level of service.

Besides that, a birth control subscription requires an annual physical and a pap smear. Idk what the cost is without insurance, but lets guess at least $150-200 + time off of work.

My office visit copays with insurance are $40-60, so pretty sure $50 is on the low end

[Artemis Windsong]

I shared this on FB.

[weltschmerz]

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Congress: "No."

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

Seriously? It's about $90 if you don't have insurance.
Prior to the ACA, pregnancy was considered a preexisting condition.
If you're one of the unlucky few, you can't GET insurance if you have hypertension, cardiac issues, asthma, allergies, and a host of other conditions.

[weltschmerz]

....and then there's this.


Like a lot of people who regularly follow health care policy and news, I spent part of yesterday digesting the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, the case that determined that closely-held companies can opt-out of including some or all forms of birth control in their employee health plans if there is a religious objection on the part of the company’s owners.


selfpaypatient.com/2014/07/01/birth-control-self-pay-patients/

[swasat]

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Congress: "No."

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

Men : Maybe it's time for me, a male who hasn't a clue what he is talking about and gives a rats ass about women's health and their life, to stop shooting through my mouth and actually use my brains and my mouth to say something useful for a change, and not spout idiotic nonsense and make a bigger fool of myself.

[thyme4change]

Sept 15, 2018 14:07:48 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

....and then there's this.


Like a lot of people who regularly follow health care policy and news, I spent part of yesterday digesting the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby, the case that determined that closely-held companies can opt-out of including some or all forms of birth control in their employee health plans if there is a religious objection on the part of the company’s owners.


selfpaypatient.com/2014/07/01/birth-control-self-pay-patients/

If you company does not cover the actual birth control, it at least would cover the doctor's appointment, right? I am not super schooled on the whole hobby lobby case.

[moon/Laura]

Oh and let's also not forget that sometimes the providers in your network that are a reasonable distance from you are catholic managed and unwilling to prescribe BC.

IF you're lucky, the person you see tells you that, but says we can do it if it's medically required due to heavy periods or something <wink, wink>.

[kadee79]

Or if you are like I was during my "possible" child bearing years...all the BC pills made me one nasty person...they weren't good for me at all.   And a gal I worked with, they didn't make any strong enough to stop her from getting pregnant...she found that out after 2 pregnancies while on BC.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Congress: "No."

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

Last time I paid for birth control pills, it cost me $20/mo.....in 1982.  At that time, I was bringing home $140/week, living and working full time in Boston - where 50% of my income was going for rent.  I was in Boston, as I was just out of college and it was the best place for me to get the experience that I needed, and employers wanted.  BTW, those same pills today are $32.97.

When I had insurance, they cost me $80 for a 3 month supply.

This does not count the doctor's appointment you need to get them for the year.  Add another $150-$300 for that.  Oh, I had decent insurance and had a $50 copay.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Sept 15, 2018 11:19:16 GMT -5 kadee79 said:

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

Sure if you do a few things first...like YOU take precautions!  Then you pay for the Dr. visit to get the script and the transportation to Walmart to have it filled.
And then since YOU/the man didn't bother with precautions...you babysit, you pay for child care, you buy it food, you pay for it's health care and find the woman a decent job that pays enough to support herself & any children she might have.

I've been there, until you have...you have no idea what you are talking about!

And if you are lucky, you don't get a pharmacist who is against birth control and refuses to fill your prescription because he feels like he cannot due to HIS ethics.

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

This is a pretty good read.  I got a good laugh out of it, and agree with most of it!


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[busymom]

I had 3 friends who got pregnant while using birth control.  It doesn't guarantee you'll NEVER get pregnant, it simply reduces the chance that you will.  And, this Facebook post is one of the huge things that is wrong with our country right now.  If you're a woman, you're darned if you do, and darned if you don't.  When's the last time you heard of a man getting fired for trying to get time off to care for a family member?  

[kadee79]

Sept 15, 2018 15:36:12 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

This is a pretty good read.  I got a good laugh out of it, and agree with most of it!


threadreaderapp.com/thread/1040363431893725184.html

OMG, that is good...I'm sharing it!!!  Thank you!

[thyme4change]

Sept 15, 2018 15:36:12 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

This is a pretty good read.  I got a good laugh out of it, and agree with most of it!


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Vasectomies are not 100% reversible. I thought the success rate of reversal was below 50%, but I could be wrong. I'm on board for the suggestion, but the reversal rates would need to be verified

[weltschmerz]

Sept 15, 2018 10:52:16 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Women: "Can I have birth control?"
Congress: "No."

Woman: Is it OK for me to use my brain, skip the gov't help, and go over to Walmart and spend $15 for a pack of birth control pills? (Thereby avoiding your entire list of multiple problems).

Why don't men use their brains, go over to Walmart and spend less than $15 for a pack of condoms?

"Waah, waah, waah! It doesn't feel as good!"

(Did you know that the birth control pills can cause heart attacks and strokes?
Do condoms cause heart attacks and strokes?)

[Gardening Grandma]

Sept 15, 2018 17:10:40 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Sept 15, 2018 15:36:12 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

This is a pretty good read.  I got a good laugh out of it, and agree with most of it!


threadreaderapp.com/thread/1040363431893725184.html

Vasectomies are not 100% reversible. I thought the success rate of reversal was below 50%, but I could be wrong. I'm on board for the suggestion, but the reversal rates would need to be verified

I wish the men spouting off their ignorance would all get vasectomies. Problem solved

[moon/Laura]

Oh, I know phil5185! How about women just don't put out instead, since you think obtaining BC is so simple /cheap/ easily obtained?

After all, abstinence is the best way to not get pregnant, it costs nothing, and anyone can do it. It's not easy, but it's for a good cause. Right?

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Sept 15, 2018 17:10:40 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Sept 15, 2018 15:36:12 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

This is a pretty good read.  I got a good laugh out of it, and agree with most of it!


threadreaderapp.com/thread/1040363431893725184.html

Vasectomies are not 100% reversible. I thought the success rate of reversal was below 50%, but I could be wrong. I'm on board for the suggestion, but the reversal rates would need to be verified

Yeah, I know.  I think that's her only failing - but I wonder of the vas deferens was clipped and not cut if it could be easily reversible?

[steff]

[The Walk of the Penguin Mich]

Why is it that some men think birth control is so easy to obtain?

I have this exact same argument with my brother, and he is utterly clueless.  But those of us that have been in the trenches for the 30 years of having to deal with this simply don't know what it's like.  /sarcasm

I have never been so happy as to throw my last packet of birth control pills away after TD got his vasectomy and the 'all clear'.  This took all responsibility off of MY head - where it had been since I became sexually active.  And I was lucky in that I could afford to pay for my pills.  I never had to consider whether or not I should pay the $20/mo for my pills, or get groceries (which were just about that each week).  

I'm glad that Phil had that kind of expendable income.  I wonder how many prescriptions he paid for for his partners?

[countrygirl2]

I was able to get a tubal after I had my daughter.  This was in the 70's, they had just made it legal for doctors to do it and he did.  He had another girl and I go to the hospital to get it done, he said he was afraid they would stop it, this was rural, small town America.  Oh and he was a catholic from S America.  But he delivered DD and knew what I had to deal with so did it.  Best thing I ever had done.  I guess prior to that you had to be a certain age and already have X number of kids before they would do it.  I thought it was crazy, I was young and college educated and thought women should have rights.  And we still have this argument going??  Wow!

It all falls on the woman, I wish it were that easy, just go buy birth control pills for $15, that's the BS you hear from repubs. Kind of like stopping legitimate rapes, women won't get pregnant the body just shuts it down.  Where in the h*** were these people educated?


Oh, I forgot, my husband still had to sign off on it before I could have it done.  Birth control pills back then made me very sick and they were not necessarily effective either.

[countrygirl2]

I shared it on my facebook, already getting comments.

[thyme4change]

Changing the subject just a little, but something else has pissed me off today. I got a magazine today, and it had a 30 page insert that was titled as "Women's Health Guide." I know it was an advertisement, so I wasn't expecting much, but I am going to tell you the contents and all the help with my health I got for it.

9 pages of plastic surgery advertisements
6 pages of weight loss advertisement
7 pages of various vaginal things - most of those pages included information about cosmetic surgery i can have done on my vagina and labia
2 pages advertising massage therapy
4 pages of medical imaging
4 pages of general health stuff - like advertising hospitals, etc.

Not even a mention that women have more heart attacks than men, or osteoporosis or high blood pressure. Total bullshit. As a woman my job is to look young and have a tight vag. Fuck off.