He promised MAGA

[NastyWoman]

And he sure is doing his best for publishers, but whether this is what he meant is rather doubtful

“"Fear" came out on Tuesday. And it is already one of the top selling books of the year -- not just on the politics shelf of the bookstore, but in the entire store.
On Wednesday, Barnes & Noble said "Fear" has had the "fastest sales for an adult title since Harper Lee's 'Go Set a Watchman' was released in July 2015."
The bookseller called the pace of sales "phenomenal" and "amazing."
Also on Wednesday, Woodward's publisher Simon & Schuster announced that more than 750,000 copies of "Fear" have been sold as of Tuesday, the first day it went on sale. …”

money.cnn.com/2018/09/12/media/barnes-noble-woodward-fear/index.html

[happyhoix]

Well, I guess Trump can't refer to it as 'that failing book no one is reading.'

Well, I guess he can, and probably will, and sadly some will believe him.

[kadee79]

Mine has shipped from Amazon.

[busymom]

I finally found "THE" book I'm going to use my Barnes & Noble gift card on.  That definitely looks like an interesting read.  

[OldCoyote]

Sept 12, 2018 16:17:09 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Well, I guess Trump can't refer to it as 'that failing book no one is reading.'

Well, I guess he can, and probably will, and sadly some will believe him.

Came out yesterday everyone has read now??

[OldCoyote]

Annnnd what is going to be different about this,, I mean every book that has come out was suppose to be the end of Trump!!!

What is this #412 or something like that?

[happyhoix]

Sept 12, 2018 23:19:28 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Sept 12, 2018 16:17:09 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Well, I guess Trump can't refer to it as 'that failing book no one is reading.'

Well, I guess he can, and probably will, and sadly some will believe him.

Came out yesterday everyone has read now??

I started reading mine last night. Got to the part where Trump stated he could easily stop being pro-choice and become anti-abortion if it meant he might get to be president.

Easy peasy, like changing shoes for him - it's almost like he has no moral compass at all.

[busymom]

Sept 13, 2018 9:32:35 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Sept 12, 2018 23:19:28 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Came out yesterday everyone has read now??

I started reading mine last night. Got to the part where Trump stated he could easily stop being pro-choice and become anti-abortion if it meant he might get to be president.

Easy peasy, like changing shoes for him - it's almost like he has no moral compass at all.

     There's a number of us who had heard he has no moral compass LONG before he ever ran for president.  

[OldCoyote]

Sept 13, 2018 9:32:35 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Sept 12, 2018 23:19:28 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Came out yesterday everyone has read now??

I started reading mine last night. Got to the part where Trump stated he could easily stop being pro-choice and become anti-abortion if it meant he might get to be president.

Easy peasy, like changing shoes for him - it's almost like he has no moral compass at all.

How is this book different from the others?

[happyhoix]

Sept 13, 2018 9:54:39 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Sept 13, 2018 9:32:35 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I started reading mine last night. Got to the part where Trump stated he could easily stop being pro-choice and become anti-abortion if it meant he might get to be president.

Easy peasy, like changing shoes for him - it's almost like he has no moral compass at all.

How is this book different from the others?

I don't know, this is the first book I've read about the Trump WH, so I couldn't compare it to the others.

I will say that I skipped the others because they seemed to be written by scandal mongers or disgruntled former employees. This one is written by a very respected journalist who has been researching and writing political books for decades, and he's been evenhanded in his writing, sometimes writing negatively about dems and flattering books about GOP presidents, so I knew he wouldn't write a political hack job. And I know what his research technique is - he gives his sources anonymity, but tape records what they tell him to keep a record of what was actually said, and he gets 2 - 3 sources to confirm each statement, or he doesn't publish it. None of the other books written about the WH so far (the ones I'm aware of, anyway) seemed to use such a thorough investigative process.

[swamp]

Sept 13, 2018 9:54:39 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Sept 13, 2018 9:32:35 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I started reading mine last night. Got to the part where Trump stated he could easily stop being pro-choice and become anti-abortion if it meant he might get to be president.

Easy peasy, like changing shoes for him - it's almost like he has no moral compass at all.

How is this book different from the others?

It's by a highly regarded journalist/presidential biographer completely out of the trump sphere who has no dog in the race.  

[Gardening Grandma]

I started reading it Tues. I’m about 1/3 if the way done.
Parts of it are so disturbing that I have to put it down for a whike.
I was actually surprised at the degree of impulsiveness, the utter lack of thoughtful consideration that goes into his decision making process (if you can even call it a process)

[hurley1980]

Sept 13, 2018 11:03:42 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

I started reading it Tues. I’m about 1/3 if the way done.
Parts of it are so disturbing that I have to put it down for a whike.
I was actually surprised at the degree of impulsiveness, the utter lack of thoughtful consideration that goes into his decision making process (if you can even call it a process)

This is why I'm hesitant to buy the book.  I know that parts of it will frustrate me to hell, just like Fire and Fury did.  The fact that Trump does the shit he does and no one even tries to reign him in is terrifying.

I'm getting ready to go see The Nun this weekend, and I can only deal with one horror at a time.

Maybe I'll buy it in a few weeks.

[phil5185]

I was actually surprised at the degree of impulsiveness, the utter lack of thoughtful consideration that goes into his decision making process (if you can even call it a process)

You have identified the difference between a CEO and a politician. A politician appoints committees, commissions, performs studies - often takes several months for a decision. And CEOs are more likely to shoot from the hip. If it's wrong they reverse it next week and move on.
One is not better, they are just different.
When a politician makes a decision, it is often a life/death outcome. When a CEO makes a decision, it is usually has a financial outcome.

[Gardening Grandma]

Sept 13, 2018 13:21:11 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

I was actually surprised at the degree of impulsiveness, the utter lack of thoughtful consideration that goes into his decision making process (if you can even call it a process)

You have identified the difference between a CEO and a politician. A politician appoints committees, commissions, performs studies - often takes several months for a decision. And CEOs are more likely to shoot from the hip. If it's wrong they reverse it next week and move on.
One is not better, they are just different.
When a politician makes a decision, it is often a life/death outcome. When a CEO makes a decision, it is usually has a financial outcome.

When one had access to the nuclear codes, I don’t want an impulsive, shoot from the hip responder. Nuclear war is not reversible.

[billisonboard]

Sept 13, 2018 13:21:11 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

I was actually surprised at the degree of impulsiveness, the utter lack of thoughtful consideration that goes into his decision making process (if you can even call it a process)

You have identified the difference between a CEO and a politician. A politician appoints committees, commissions, performs studies - often takes several months for a decision. And CEOs are more likely to shoot from the hip. If it's wrong they reverse it next week and move on.
...

Sept 10, 2018 15:44:21 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Most companies spend a couple of years studying the trend, the feasibility, site analysis, available work force, plant design, and finally plant construction. ...

but I am sure you can explain it.

[kadee79]

Sept 13, 2018 13:31:07 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Sept 13, 2018 13:21:11 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

You have identified the difference between a CEO and a politician. A politician appoints committees, commissions, performs studies - often takes several months for a decision. And CEOs are more likely to shoot from the hip. If it's wrong they reverse it next week and move on.
...

Sept 10, 2018 15:44:21 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

Most companies spend a couple of years studying the trend, the feasibility, site analysis, available work force, plant design, and finally plant construction. ...

but I am sure you can explain it.

[hurley1980]

OMG that is some serious spinning to defend the president! Thanks for the laugh....I needed it!

[happyhoix]

From what I can tell, Trump's main problem is that he was the kind of CEO who shot from the hip and made decisions on the fly. Somehow that worked for him, or at least worked well enough.

Unfortunately, you can't do that if you don't know anything about your new job, and Trump knows nothing about government, international relations, or any number of things a POTUS has to deal with. Instead of relying on a qualified cabinet and various subject matter experts, he still tries to shot from the hip and make decisions on the fly.  It's why he makes such incredibly bad decisions. And since he can't admit when he makes a mistake, he either has to find a scapegoat to fire, or deny he ever said what he said, even if it means he has to blame the dems for doctoring video/audiotape to make it appear that he said something he now claims he never said.

[happyhoix]

Back to the book - I'm really curious to know Woodward mentions that horrible first cabinet meeting where Trump made all the cabinet members go around the room talking about how grateful they were for the chance to work with him and what an awesome president he was.

That made me cringe. I'd love to know what some of the cabinet members felt.

[Gardening Grandma]

Sept 13, 2018 17:21:55 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

From what I can tell, Trump's main problem is that he was the kind of CEO who shot from the hip and made decisions on the fly. Somehow that worked for him, or at least worked well enough.

Unfortunately, you can't do that if you don't know anything about your new job, and Trump knows nothing about government, international relations, or any number of things a POTUS has to deal with. Instead of relying on a qualified cabinet and various subject matter experts, he still tries to shot from the hip and make decisions on the fly.  It's why he makes such incredibly bad decisions. And since he can't admit when he makes a mistake, he either has to find a scapegoat to fire, or deny he ever said what he said, even if it means he has to blame the dems for doctoring video/audiotape to make it appear that he said something he now claims he never said.

that was another thing that bothered me.  He seemed uninterested in a candidate's actually experience and just wanted to hand out appointments like candy.  "you want to be Sec of State?  No?  How about Treasury?  No? How about..."

[weltschmerz]

Sept 13, 2018 17:21:55 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

From what I can tell, Trump's main problem is that he was the kind of CEO who shot from the hip and made decisions on the fly. Somehow that worked for him, or at least worked well enough.

Unfortunately, you can't do that if you don't know anything about your new job, and Trump knows nothing about government, international relations, or any number of things a POTUS has to deal with. Instead of relying on a qualified cabinet and various subject matter experts, he still tries to shot from the hip and make decisions on the fly.  It's why he makes such incredibly bad decisions. And since he can't admit when he makes a mistake, he either has to find a scapegoat to fire, or deny he ever said what he said, even if it means he has to blame the dems for doctoring video/audiotape to make it appear that he said something he now claims he never said.

.....and when he's wrong, he doubles down.

[Tennesseer]

Sept 13, 2018 12:30:09 GMT -5 hurley1980 said:

Sept 13, 2018 11:03:42 GMT -5 Gardening Grandma said:

I started reading it Tues. I’m about 1/3 if the way done.
Parts of it are so disturbing that I have to put it down for a whike.
I was actually surprised at the degree of impulsiveness, the utter lack of thoughtful consideration that goes into his decision making process (if you can even call it a process)

This is why I'm hesitant to buy the book.  I know that parts of it will frustrate me to hell, just like Fire and Fury did.  The fact that Trump does the shit he does and no one even tries to reign him in is terrifying.

I'm getting ready to go see The Nun this weekend, and I can only deal with one horror at a time.

Maybe I'll buy it in a few weeks.

If the nun's name in the movie is Sr. Marie St. John, that was my five grade teacher and she was a nightmare.

[dezii]

Sept 12, 2018 23:22:44 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Annnnd what is going to be different about this,, I mean every book that has come out was suppose to be the end of Trump!!!

What is this #412 or something like that?

Which ever  it is it is a important expose...Reason is the author, his reputation for seriouse in depth digging and verifying sources and information gathered...reputation as a fair and honest journalism and has a history which is very strong.

So all your naysaying amounts to little, especially over here at this site..possible another with similar beliefs as yours, but definitely not here...Problem with some of those other sites, not sure if those who post and attend would purchase the book..In their mind, the Donald says untrue, fake news...Fox too...they aint buying it..[sigh]

[weltschmerz]

Sept 13, 2018 9:54:39 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

Sept 13, 2018 9:32:35 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I started reading mine last night. Got to the part where Trump stated he could easily stop being pro-choice and become anti-abortion if it meant he might get to be president.

Easy peasy, like changing shoes for him - it's almost like he has no moral compass at all.

How is this book different from the others?

Two Pulitzer Prizes.

[dezii]

Sept 13, 2018 13:21:11 GMT -5 phil5185 said:

I was actually surprised at the degree of impulsiveness, the utter lack of thoughtful consideration that goes into his decision making process (if you can even call it a process)

You have identified the difference between a CEO and a politician. A politician appoints committees, commissions, performs studies - often takes several months for a decision. And CEOs are more likely to shoot from the hip. If it's wrong they reverse it next week and move on.
One is not better, they are just different.
When a politician makes a decision, it is often a life/death outcome. When a CEO makes a decision, it is usually has a financial outcome.

The fact is, for me, and I am speaking just for me...the man is a embarrassment to me and to have him be my chief representative to the world just makes me ill...that's it in a nutshell....

To be blunt and this is one who served his country...fought, shed some blood,,,very patriotic , so for me to wish him ill, and I do...does NOT  make me a happy camper.

Nothing scientific about it...nothing about weighing advantages of either a business person or a politician...just simple contempt and nightly  prayers, hope ...the next day he is gone, naturally or the other way...no difference to me.

[dezii]

Sept 13, 2018 18:11:39 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Sept 13, 2018 9:54:39 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

How is this book different from the others?

Two Pulitzer Prizes.

He had two?  Didn't know that...one yes....what was the second...figure first was the Watergate / Nixon one.

[weltschmerz]

Sept 13, 2018 18:16:51 GMT -5 dezii said:

Sept 13, 2018 18:11:39 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Two Pulitzer Prizes.

He had two?  Didn't know that...one yes....what was the second...figure first was the Watergate / Nixon one.

Although not a recipient in his own right, Woodward made crucial contributions to two Pulitzer Prizes won by The Washington Post. First, he and Bernstein were the lead reporters on Watergate and the Post won the Pulitzer Prize for Public Service in 1973.[35] He was also the main reporter for the Post's coverage of the September 11 attacks in 2001. The Post won the 2002 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting for 10 of its stories on the subject.[36]

-wiki




Woodward at the National Press Club in 2002

Woodward himself has been a recipient of nearly every major American journalism award, including the Heywood Broun award (1972), Worth Bingham Prize for Investigative Reporting (1972 and 1986), Sigma Delta Chi Award (1973), George Polk Award (1972), William Allen White Medal (2000), and the Gerald R. Ford Prize for Reporting on the Presidency (2002). In 2012, Colby College presented Woodward with the Elijah Parish Lovejoy Award for courageous journalism as well as an honorary doctorate.[37]

[weltschmerz]

That's some good cred.

[OldCoyote]

Sept 13, 2018 10:12:26 GMT -5 swamp said:

Sept 13, 2018 9:54:39 GMT -5 OldCoyote said:

How is this book different from the others?

It's by a highly regarded journalist/presidential biographer completely out of the trump sphere who has no dog in the race.  

Is he selling books for money?? Is he doing the circuit to promote books sales? In which He hope will generate more book sales for more Money??