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Post by weltschmerz on May 19, 2018 13:27:02 GMT -5
I thought the intellectual right started falling apart when the Christian Right started taking power. They used "God said so" to steer the party. I prefer to call it the Religious Right rather than the Christian Right. There is nothing Christian about them. And unfortunately, they try to steer us away from both truth and American values. We were far better off before when things like individual liberties mattered. ^^This^^ Trump calls himself a Christian. He isn't. If he was, he'd be a much nicer person. In reality, he's a Porn Again Christian.
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Post by Shooby on May 19, 2018 13:40:42 GMT -5
Oh well.
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Post by happyhoix on May 21, 2018 7:07:35 GMT -5
Oh well. Your party voted a lying carnival barker into office, which has thrown our country into divisive turmoil, and all you can say is 'oh well?'
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Post by Shooby on May 21, 2018 7:10:13 GMT -5
Oh well. Your party voted a lying carnival barker into office, which has thrown our country into divisive turmoil, and all you can say is 'oh well?'
I am happy he won. I think he's doing a great job. What else would you like me to say? I hope we get more of the same for the next 6 years!
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Post by djAdvocate on May 21, 2018 10:22:50 GMT -5
Your party voted a lying carnival barker into office, which has thrown our country into divisive turmoil, and all you can say is 'oh well?'
I am happy he won. I think he's doing a great job. What else would you like me to say? I hope we get more of the same for the next 6 years! please tell me you don't work in HR.
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Post by mollyanna58 on May 21, 2018 10:46:20 GMT -5
Shooby : I am asking in all sincerity: please enumerate exactly what he has done to improve things for the average American.
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Post by dondub on May 21, 2018 12:06:24 GMT -5
I am happy he won. I think he's doing a great job. What else would you like me to say?
Of course you do.
Afterall...
-The evangelicals don't care about his moral turpitude
-The fiscal responsibles don't care about the massive deficit creation
-The family values clique couldn't care less that he fucked a porn star while Melania was nursing
-The regular Christians don't care that he is a serial liar
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Post by Opti on May 21, 2018 12:18:29 GMT -5
Shooby : I am asking in all sincerity: please enumerate exactly what he has done to improve things for the average American. Not Shooby, but I think for some its very basic. Trump is not acting like a liberal.
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Post by swamp on May 21, 2018 12:19:35 GMT -5
Shooby : I am asking in all sincerity: please enumerate exactly what he has done to improve things for the average American. Not Shooby, but I think for some its very basic. Trump is not acting like a liberal. He's not acting like a conservative either. He's acting like a nutball.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 21, 2018 12:37:49 GMT -5
Not Shooby, but I think for some its very basic. Trump is not acting like a liberal. He's not acting like a conservative either. He's acting like a nutball. That is a polite way of saying it.
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Post by weltschmerz on May 21, 2018 13:13:25 GMT -5
I am happy he won. I think he's doing a great job. What else would you like me to say? I hope we get more of the same for the next 6 years! please tell me you don't work in HR. All he's done was line his own pockets and make the USA a global laughingstock.
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Post by Shooby on May 21, 2018 13:23:03 GMT -5
Shooby : I am asking in all sincerity: please enumerate exactly what he has done to improve things for the average American. Not Shooby, but I think for some its very basic. Trump is not acting like a liberal. Well, that's funny cuz you all claimed he was a closet liberal! LOL!
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Post by Shooby on May 21, 2018 13:25:07 GMT -5
Shooby : I am asking in all sincerity: please enumerate exactly what he has done to improve things for the average American. www.magapill.com/
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Post by swamp on May 21, 2018 13:36:59 GMT -5
Not Shooby, but I think for some its very basic. Trump is not acting like a liberal. Well, that's funny cuz you all claimed he was a closet liberal! LOL! No. We said he was a liberal until he found out that pretending to be an evangelical conservative would win him attention and votes.
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Post by tallguy on May 21, 2018 13:46:58 GMT -5
Not Shooby, but I think for some its very basic. Trump is not acting like a liberal. Well, that's funny cuz you all claimed he was a closet liberal! LOL! Wow, you really are not capable of letting go of a thought no matter how bad it makes you look. Nobody (to my knowledge) said he was a closet liberal. Your claiming so does not make it true. At best, they said he wasn't a conservative, which is true. He has no moral or ideological underpinnings to his beliefs. His only rationale is, "Does it benefit me?" He could have run equally as either Democrat or Republican based on what he thinks. The real difference is that liberals would not have fallen for his lies. Conservatives lapped them up. No self-respecting liberal would ever claim Trump as one. The only people who would even make the claim are so far lost to the right that they could not find their way back to rational thought with a map, compass, GPS, and search party.
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Post by dondub on May 21, 2018 14:01:23 GMT -5
Very well put as usual. No one I know of or have ever heard of has considered Trump as a 'liberal'. And even if he used to be, in a very loose interpretation of the word, he is NOT acting like one now. Instead he is acting like a person that the pauls, shoobys, and others can revere in a cult of personality fashion. They now own him and everything about him.
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Post by Opti on May 21, 2018 14:26:06 GMT -5
Not Shooby, but I think for some its very basic. Trump is not acting like a liberal. Well, that's funny cuz you all claimed he was a closet liberal! LOL! No. What was claimed is he used to espouse liberal ideas like abortion and gay rights. If you kept track, many of us have claimed he doesn't give a crap about conservative or liberal ideas. His allegiance is to being rich and himself. In other words he worships money and the mirror.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 21, 2018 14:36:45 GMT -5
Well, that's funny cuz you all claimed he was a closet liberal! LOL! No. We said he was a liberal until he found out that pretending to be an evangelical conservative would win him attention and votes. THIS is the excuse that the "pure" repubs use on FB. Hey, he really isn't one of "ours" → this is all your fault Dems.
Well the Dems sure as h*ll did not elect him and since he was elected you get one guess who did and is repsonsible for this...
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Post by Shooby on May 21, 2018 14:57:05 GMT -5
I don't care what he said he was 20 yrs ago. He wasn't the Potus then. I don't really care what he says. I care what he does and how he governs.
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Post by tallguy on May 21, 2018 15:00:02 GMT -5
Then why do you continue to make such silly claims as this? All that does is make you look bad.
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Post by happyhoix on May 21, 2018 15:25:18 GMT -5
I don't care what he said he was 20 yrs ago. He wasn't the Potus then. I don't really care what he says. I care what he does and how he governs. What are his core beliefs? I'm asking the question seriously, what do you think he believes about government, about religion, and about the middle class? I'm curious.
One problem I have with Trump is that he says so many contradictory things, and then either does nothing, or does the opposite, or does one thing and a month later insists he didn't do it, or someone else did it. If I had to sit down and write out what his core beliefs are when it comes to running the country, I couldn't do it. Maybe you could?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 21, 2018 16:00:05 GMT -5
I don't care what he said he was 20 yrs ago. He wasn't the Potus then. I don't really care what he says. I care what he does and how he governs. you are really covering the bases here. but let's summarize: you don't care what he says, only what he does. cool. so what has he done to improve the lives of average Americans?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 21, 2018 16:01:30 GMT -5
Not Shooby, but I think for some its very basic. Trump is not acting like a liberal. Well, that's funny cuz you all claimed he was a closet liberal! LOL! "you all" = none of us. right?
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Post by djAdvocate on May 21, 2018 16:02:49 GMT -5
Well, that's funny cuz you all claimed he was a closet liberal! LOL! No. We said he was a liberal until he found out that pretending to be an evangelical conservative would win him attention and votes. that would have been about 20 years ago. and yeah, i can support that.
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Post by dondub on May 22, 2018 14:49:29 GMT -5
I have irked many of the 'Seattle liberals' I associate with by claiming that they shouldn't be surprised if the repugnant and despicable Trump actually has initiatives that are good for the country. Even Nixxon, the most despised of all (so far) did many excellent things. Then shooby posted her www.magapill.com/ which attempts to list Trump's achievements so far. I stopped when I got to this one:
President Trump Declassifies and Releases JFK Files
This is categorically untrue. Federal law said ALL of the remaining JFK docs were to be released in Oct. 2017. Not Trump, existing law. The one caveat is that the POTUS could block this release and that is exactly what Trump did. He prevented, in collusion with the CIA, FBI, and other national security orgs, the full release of these documents. He put it off until April 2018 when he once again refused to have the remainder of the docs released. The date is now sometime in 2021.
Sorry shooby, but your pro-Trump site has been busted this time. Anyone else care to select an item from the endless list and debunk it?
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Post by swamp on May 22, 2018 14:52:13 GMT -5
I don't care what he said he was 20 yrs ago. He wasn't the Potus then. I don't really care what he says. I care what he does and how he governs. Actually, that is exactly how almost every Trump supporter I talk to rationalizes it. And they all assume that what he is doing is "right". As Trump likes to say, we'll have to wait and see. Well, Trump also says "bigly" and that he is "a very stable genius" and talks about "beautiful rolls of paper towels" so I wouldn't put much stock in that.
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Post by billisonboard on May 22, 2018 16:13:08 GMT -5
... Anyone else care to select an item from the endless list and debunk it? I like this one: Trump signs sweeping two-year budget deal - MILITARY FUNDED President Trump signed a $400 billion budget deal Friday morning that sharply hikes spending and balloons the federal deficit – then bemoaned the funding bill ... link from the list Quite the accomplishment there.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 22, 2018 16:33:09 GMT -5
I have irked many of the 'Seattle liberals' I associate with by claiming that they shouldn't be surprised if the repugnant and despicable Trump actually has initiatives that are good for the country. Even Nixxon, the most despised of all (so far) did many excellent things. Then shooby posted her www.magapill.com/ which attempts to list Trump's achievements so far. I stopped when I got to this one:
President Trump Declassifies and Releases JFK Files
This is categorically untrue. Federal law said ALL of the remaining JFK docs were to be released in Oct. 2017. Not Trump, existing law. The one caveat is that the POTUS could block this release and that is exactly what Trump did. He prevented, in collusion with the CIA, FBI, and other national security orgs, the full release of these documents. He put it off until April 2018 when he once again refused to have the remainder of the docs released. The date is now sometime in 2021.
Sorry shooby, but your pro-Trump site has been busted this time. Anyone else care to select an item from the endless list and debunk it? And I liked this one and it was the first entry under Economy: "Black and Hispanic Unemployment rates hit record low in April" Trump had nothing to do with it. It was already falling fast well before trump entered the picture.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 22, 2018 22:59:25 GMT -5
... Anyone else care to select an item from the endless list and debunk it? I like this one: Trump signs sweeping two-year budget deal - MILITARY FUNDED President Trump signed a $400 billion budget deal Friday morning that sharply hikes spending and balloons the federal deficit – then bemoaned the funding bill ... link from the list Quite the accomplishment there. this is kind of the moral equivalent of mortgaging your house to buy crack, and then leaving the debt to your grandkids.
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Post by thyme4change on May 23, 2018 8:48:13 GMT -5
I like this one: Trump signs sweeping two-year budget deal - MILITARY FUNDED President Trump signed a $400 billion budget deal Friday morning that sharply hikes spending and balloons the federal deficit – then bemoaned the funding bill ... link from the list Quite the accomplishment there. this is kind of the moral equivalent of mortgaging your house to buy crack, and then leaving the debt to your grandkids. That is an option? Hmmmm...this changes my retirement plan.
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