The MSM on Syria, in One Video; Also, WWIII

[Virgil Showlion]

Probably a coincidence, but painfully symbolic.

I personally can't let this one go either.  Pres. al Assad has zero reason to deploy chemical weapons at this time, and 100 excellent reasons not to. His using them at this juncture makes absolutely no sense.

It makes so little sense, in fact, that we're limited to just three choices:

• al Assad has gone well and truly insane, and is actively trying to destroy his own military campaign and presidency
  
• the chemical weapons attack is real, but perpetrated by forces not under al Assad's control
  
• the chemical weapons attack is, as the Russians contend, a false flag intended to motivate US involvement in Syria
  

These are the only three choices.

All three of them are shaky, but they're the only three choices. Hence let's explore them.

...Or not.

In all but one of the articles I've read from Western sources (props to the Independent in the UK, who bucked the trend), I haven't seen a single reporter ask "Cui bono?" for these attacks. Not a single one.

I did read that Ron Paul was getting airtime somewhere, and that a FOX commentator (Tucker Carlson, I believe) breached the issue in one episode (as well as addressing the supreme idiocy of the US wading further into Syria at this point), hence I can't claim Western journalism is 100% stone-cold dead.

Even so, too little, too late. The US is presently firing on Damascus. We can only pray Russia doesn't take out the US carrier and start WWIII.

The faint silver lining is that if WWIII does start and the world is obliterated in a nuclear holocaust, at least it will take the Western media out with the rest of us.

[billisonboard]

Certainly have to wonder.

[Spellbound454]

We can only pray Russia doesn't take out the US carrier and start WWIII.

Russia didn't even try to protect the Syrians with their state of the art ....missile defences.

[billisonboard]

Western allies warned Syria on Saturday that they could launch further attacks if chemical weapons are used again,

So Assad or others need to take that into account when planning another chemical weapons attack. Serious cost/benefit analysis time for anyone involved.

[Virgil Showlion]

Virgil loves snow leopards.

[Virgil Showlion]

Hack my account and impersonate me like that again, billisonboard, and I'll have no other recourse but to have you banned.

It's your choice.

[billisonboard]

Apr 14, 2018 8:42:31 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Hack my account and impersonate me like that again, billisonboard, and I'll have no other recourse but to have you banned.

It's your choice.

You obviously have me confused with someone with some level of technical competence. It is a good day for me when I can access my own account without problems.

[Virgil Showlion]

Apr 14, 2018 8:53:10 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Apr 14, 2018 8:42:31 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Hack my account and impersonate me like that again, billisonboard , and I'll have no other recourse but to have you banned.

It's your choice.

You obviously have me confused with someone with some level of technical competence. It is a good day for me when I can access my own account without problems.

I have evidence proving it was you.

...that I can't release to the public, for security reasons.

[billisonboard]

Apr 14, 2018 10:08:55 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

Apr 14, 2018 8:53:10 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

You obviously have me confused with someone with some level of technical competence. It is a good day for me when I can access my own account without problems.

I have evidence proving it was you.

...that I can't release to the public, for security reasons.

Gosh, now I know what Assad might be feeling.

[Spellbound454]

I have evidence proving it was you.

...that I can't release to the public, for security reasons.

Not quite like that though is it Virgil ... the OPCW autopsied bodies after the chemical weapon attack last year and found ... Sarin

THE HAGUE, Netherlands — 30 June 2017 — In a report released by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), the OPCW Fact-Finding Mission (FFM) confirmed that people were exposed to sarin, a chemical weapon, on 4 April 2017 in the Khan Shaykhun area, Idlib Province in the Syrian Arab Republic.

www.opcw.org/special-sections/syria/press-releases/

There are allegations for the use of chemical weapons, by the Government in Syria .... going back years.
UK Government thinks it could be up to 50 times.

So what do we do?

Put up with it?.... Pretend it isn't happening? Accuse the UK government(As the Russians are doing) of gassing Syrians?

Or Nothing

[dezii]

Apr 14, 2018 11:10:08 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Apr 14, 2018 10:08:55 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I have evidence proving it was you.

...that I can't release to the public, for security reasons.

Gosh, now I know what Assad might be feeling.

or our Donald.....

[Virgil Showlion]

Apr 14, 2018 14:26:27 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Put up with it?

1. Good idea. Assuming Pres. Assad is gassing his own people and destroying his own military campaign, killing the citizens he's sending to populate deserted cities, and antagonizing the world (as well as his only ally) for no discernible reason, this is still a far better option than what we're doing.

Apr 14, 2018 14:26:27 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Pretend it isn't happening?

A bit extreme, but yet another course of action better than what we're doing.

Apr 14, 2018 14:26:27 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Accuse the UK government(As the Russians are doing) of gassing Syrians?

While the UK accusing itself of gassing Syrians strikes me as a truly terrible idea, I admit it's still a better idea than wading into Iraq 3.0.

Apr 14, 2018 14:26:27 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

Or Nothing.

You're 4/4 on "courses of action wiser than waging this war".

I won't ask you to agree with me now, but I will ask that you please bear this conversation in mind when (not 'if'; when) the next report of chemical weapons attacks by al Assad comes in, and ask yourself at that time: "Wait a minute. Didn't we cripple his ability to produce chemical weapons? Didn't we prove to him we'll gladly use chemical weapons as a pretext to raze any targets in Damascus we want to? Isn't he aware his use of chemical weapons is severely undermining Russia, his staunch ally? Why is he acting in precisely the way he needs to act in order for the US, the UK, and various proxies desperate to prop up the failing petrodollar to wipe him and his whole petrodollar-threatening regime out without raising too many eyebrows?"

Perhaps he is totally insane, and the Russians simply don't care. It's not inconceivable.

But he might not be the insane one in this war.

[Spellbound454]

He may even decide that chemical weapons use......... is not worth the fuss it causes with everyone else.

I think this attack was largely symbolic ... Assad could make more chemical weapons.... we know that

[Virgil Showlion]

Apr 15, 2018 14:55:49 GMT -5 Spellbound454 said:

He may even decide that chemical weapons use......... is not worth the fuss it causes with everyone else.

Exactly.

If he's an even part-way reasonable individual--which it seems to me that he is--he won't deploy chemical weapons again. He's won the war. He wants to avoid at all costs giving numerous hostile foreign powers an excuse to destroy and/or invade his country. His not deploying chemical weapons again is clearly in his own self-interest.

Hence when the next report comes in of a chemical weapon attack, remember this was our present conclusion.