Best sign from yesterday’s marches

[NastyWoman]

I don't have a picture but I thought the "let's rename school uterus and the Politicians will be all over regulating the killings there" was pretty good as well.

Not saying what I thought when I saw that since I don't want this post removed but it started with pro and ended with my ass!

[Tennesseer]

[Rukh O'Rorke]

That's heartbreaking.

[jelloshots4all]

In WI kids are marching from the Capital to Speaker of the House Paul Ryan's hometown.  Over 50 miles.

When I shared this on FB, a very staunch Republican friend posted "Get back in school where you belong".  It's their spring break this week.  So I kindly reminded her of that.  The kids chose to March 50 miles, instead of going to some tropical resort for Spring Break.  Which she is going to next week with her kids.  And it ain't 80 degrees out in WI I can tell you that!!





www.cnn.com/2018/03/25/politics/march-for-our-lives-wisconsin-activism-gun-reform-paul-ryan/index.html

[djAdvocate]

one possible response would be "they are schooling YOU"

[whoisjohngalt]

Mar 25, 2018 16:19:57 GMT -5 Politically_Incorrect12 said:

I'm curious how many of those marching would actually take the time to stop bullying or anything else that alienates kids (an no that isn't excusing anybody from taking a gun to kill people)?  Not trying to be argumentative here, but the people doing the shooting weren't actually the owners of the weapons...so background checks wouldn't help much unless you are looking to extend background checks to family members or anybody else that might at some point potentially use them in an illegal way (of course bringing up the concern about that just opens up a whole other conversation).  Kids have every right to march, and the arguments by both the adults and kids aren't new ones...but if you want to do some good, might start with the things you immediately within your power but I'm guessing a discussion bullying and alienation will get pushed to the back-burner because let's be real, fixing the issue isn't the real motive behind these marches or of those promoting the marches.

I don't know why you had to go and insert some logic and sensibility into all those fun picture posts!

[midjd]

If "bullying and alienation" are the root causes of school shootings, why are the shooters almost exclusively straight white males? Are they the only ones who are ever bullied? 

[movingforward]

Mar 25, 2018 16:19:57 GMT -5 Politically_Incorrect12 said:

I'm curious how many of those marching would actually take the time to stop bullying or anything else that alienates kids (an no that isn't excusing anybody from taking a gun to kill people)?  Not trying to be argumentative here, but the people doing the shooting weren't actually the owners of the weapons...so background checks wouldn't help much unless you are looking to extend background checks to family members or anybody else that might at some point potentially use them in an illegal way (of course bringing up the concern about that just opens up a whole other conversation).  Kids have every right to march, and the arguments by both the adults and kids aren't new ones...but if you want to do some good, might start with the things you immediately within your power but I'm guessing a discussion bullying and alienation will get pushed to the back-burner because let's be real, fixing the issue isn't the real motive behind these marches or of those promoting the marches.

Bullying and alienation have been happening since the dawn of time, and to my knowledge, has been a very hot topic especially with all the online bullying in recent years. There is no doubt that bullying, mental illness, etc. all need to be addressed but there is also zero reason for not putting reasonable gun laws into place. I believe in the 2nd amendment. I have recently started going to the gun range, with a police friend, to learn how shoot and have thought about getting a gun. I have no problem with having to jump through a few more hoops in order to get one. I am not sure why anyone would

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

They've been addressing bullying in school since Columbine.  I've sat thru so many "conflict resolution" presentations since I was in school and now with my own kids that I could puke.  Doesn't seem to have made any difference.

I don't get what is so wrong about organizing and protesting a government that has made it pretty crystal clear they don't give a shit about "the people" anymore (this goes for both sides of the aisle).  One of the wonderful things about this country is I have the right to demand my voice be heard.  I do not think anyone should be mocked or belittled or dismissed for wanting that.

Many of these kids are old enough or will soon be old enough to vote.  If the current election taught us anything it is that your vote DOES matter.   Agree with them or not if they get going strong enough they can actually "drain the swap"

I don't have strong feelings about guns either way so my opinion on the subject is moot.  On the topic of organizing I think it's about damn time people my age and younger get mobilized.  We need to start demanding our voices be heard instead of legislation being made based on which lobby handed over the biggest check.

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Mar 25, 2018 13:29:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

people were able to hunt just fine before the AR-15.

ftr: Ted Nugent won't even use a gun for hunting.  he considers it unsportsmanlike.

dj, you owe me a bottle of Windex and a roll of paper towels to clean all the coffee spatter off my screen.  Who fed you that little nugget of non-truth?

I've met and have spoken with Ted on more than one occasion. Or more accurately he spoke and I tried a few times (unsuccessfully) to get a word in edgewise.  lol  That statement sounded incredibly uncharacteristic of Ted so I checked with Snopes scopes.


It's patently false.  While I could totally believe he might have said something like "Bow hunting and the up-close and personal kill is far more sporting."  He definitely does use firearms for hunting as well as bows and arrows. And he's outspoken about his arsenal used for hunting.


Rifles are great for longer shots, like with this big Texas mule deer!

www.deeranddeerhunting.com/blogs/favorite-backstrap-calibers

[thyme4change]

Mar 27, 2018 13:18:47 GMT -5 deminmaine said:

Those signs are F'n GREAT people!   

It is worth going to these things just to see the signs!

[djAdvocate]

Mar 27, 2018 22:42:45 GMT -5 retread said:

Mar 25, 2018 13:29:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

people were able to hunt just fine before the AR-15.

ftr: Ted Nugent won't even use a gun for hunting.  he considers it unsportsmanlike.

dj, you owe me a bottle of Windex and a roll of paper towels to clean all the coffee spatter off my screen.  Who fed you that little nugget of non-truth?

he did.  but it was a long time ago (many decades.  probably before you were born, if i am guessing right). 

oh well.  it was one of the few things i liked about him.

PS- i am well aware of his politics.  i was a huge fan of the Amboy Dukes, and his original band.

edit: if you are wondering WHERE i read it, it could ONLY have been a few places.  i didn't read much outside of school in those days.  it would have been one of the hunting mags like "Field and Stream", or a music publication like "Rolling Stone", or maybe some sort of NRA publication (i was a member at one point).  he was a huge crossbow hunter back then.  he might have  been referring specifically to deer, but i think he was speaking more generally than that.  there was something in the title about "Wild Man".  i remember being really impressed, because i thought he mentioned either a cougar or bear in the same article.  if i recall correctly, he mentioned that he also carried a sidearm FOR PROTECTION, but not for hunting.

[thyme4change]

We all know Ted Nugent is infalliable, so somebody better figure out if he said it or not so we can reform gun laws based on his word.

[tallguy]

He should have just put that deer in a stranglehold.

[djAdvocate]

Mar 28, 2018 0:06:26 GMT -5 tallguy said:

He should have just put that deer in a stranglehold.

that was the first Nugent record i ever heard.  my brother played it for me.  i LOVED that tune. 

[mroped]

Mar 25, 2018 16:19:57 GMT -5 Politically_Incorrect12 said:

I'm curious how many of those marching would actually take the time to stop bullying or anything else that alienates kids (an no that isn't excusing anybody from taking a gun to kill people)?  Not trying to be argumentative here, but the people doing the shooting weren't actually the owners of the weapons...so background checks wouldn't help much unless you are looking to extend background checks to family members or anybody else that might at some point potentially use them in an illegal way (of course bringing up the concern about that just opens up a whole other conversation).  Kids have every right to march, and the arguments by both the adults and kids aren't new ones...but if you want to do some good, might start with the things you immediately within your power but I'm guessing a discussion bullying and alienation will get pushed to the back-burner because let's be real, fixing the issue isn't the real motive behind these marches or of those promoting the marches.

Your ‘logic and sensibility’ have some fatal flaws...

Yeah, what would the president of the gay-staight alliance know about bullying prevention? 

Have you read any of their speeches? I’m particularly fond of the ones that say in essence... your attention to our suffering is great... now spread that spotlight wider, because there are kids of color living this fear every day and they are not getting equal treatment... 

yeah, they know nothing about inclusion... 

someone else already pointed out how fucking false your idea is that they don’t use their own guns is....

and what mid said... over and over. 

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Mar 27, 2018 23:49:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Mar 27, 2018 22:42:45 GMT -5 retread said:

dj, you owe me a bottle of Windex and a roll of paper towels to clean all the coffee spatter off my screen.  Who fed you that little nugget of non-truth?

he did.  but it was a long time ago (many decades.  probably before you were born, if i am guessing right). 

Nice attempt at trying to discredit by playing the age card.  But that dog won't hunt.  That would put Ted at age 8 or less. 

[djAdvocate]

Mar 28, 2018 9:02:30 GMT -5 retread said:

Mar 27, 2018 23:49:44 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

he did.  but it was a long time ago (many decades.  probably before you were born, if i am guessing right). 

Nice attempt at trying to discredit by playing the age card.  But that dog won't hunt.  That would put Ted at age 8 or less. 

that's not what i was doing.  i was excusing myself for my failing memory.

do you have a persecution complex?

[retread]

Mar 28, 2018 10:44:04 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

do you have a persecution complex?

Rather than answer that, I'll just leave you guessing. Thus far your 'guessing' has been a source of amusement for me.

[djAdvocate]

Mar 28, 2018 12:21:37 GMT -5 retread said:

Mar 28, 2018 10:44:04 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

do you have a persecution complex?

Rather than answer that, I'll just leave you guessing. Thus far your 'guessing' has been a source of amusement for me.

i wasn't guessing, i was asking.  it was a question, retread.

if you are relying on me guessing for amusement, you will bore quickly.  i rarely guess.

but hey, at least we have one thing in common: we have no fondness for idle speculation.

hopefully that will lead to some discussions that have nothing to do with us.

[mmhmm]

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