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Post by swamp on Mar 28, 2018 8:15:33 GMT -5
To clarify why it was pointless: - EVERYONE knows that Trump likes women.
- EVERYONE knows that Trump doesn't understand marital monogamy (whether it's "cheating" or he has "arrangements" is irrelevant)
- EVERYONE knows that Trump is rich and famous, and therefore can "get" women if he wants them.
- EVERYONE knows that Trump does what he wants with whom he wants to do it (some will say he limits that to willing people some will disagree... but the general belief that he does it remains)
- She's a freaking PORN STAR. That's beau-coup "bro-points". Banged a hottie AND she's a porn star? SCORE!!!!
- NO ONE'S opinion of him would have changed one iota had this "cover up" never happened. If it came out "normally" that they bumped uglies, his supporters would have filed it under "so what? we already knew he did those things.", and his detractors would have filed it under "There's another one! We already knew he did those things!"
- And, very important, she admits that what they did was 100% consensual. she's not "#metoo-ing" this. (I actually give her props for this. She made the conscious willing choices, and accepts her part in it. She doesn't blame him for the encounter or any BS like that.
I wish all women were like her in that regard. Choices have consequences, and when you make the choice you accept the consequences. She chose to go to his room, because of that the opportunity for him to proposition her arose. When he propositioned her, she accepted. Free and willing choices.)
Other than the part i struck out, since I think most people are like that, male or female, I can't like this post enough. I'm not exactly shocked that Trump was out diddling others when Melania was recovering from birth. Birth is messy, bloody, and awful, and Trump himself has said he hates blood. Melania's body was recovering (not hot) and the baby took her attention away from him. I do have a problem with him paying her to shut up right before the election. Where did the money come from?
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 28, 2018 10:47:16 GMT -5
To clarify why it was pointless: - EVERYONE knows that Trump likes women.
you can stop right there. what trump does with women doesn't meet my standard of "like". so yeah. i don't know that. and i am a member of the set "EVERYONE".
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 28, 2018 13:04:14 GMT -5
Besides, who doesn't think that Melania was only in it for the money anyway? Stormy and Melania aren't that different. It's just that Melania slept with him for a LOT more money.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 28, 2018 14:36:48 GMT -5
Well, that and Stormy is a lot better spoken. And quicker on the uptake, apparently. There is a type that a man like Donald Trump marries and a type he fools around with. I think maybe he goofed up with Wife #2.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 28, 2018 15:00:10 GMT -5
Well, that and Stormy is a lot better spoken. And quicker on the uptake, apparently. There is a type that a man like Donald Trump marries and a type he fools around with. I think maybe he goofed up with Wife #2. You mean Marla Maples?
I think he might have been happy with her if he hadn't caught her having sex with one of his security guys.
Apparently, he's one of those guys who thinks fooling around on the wifey is just something cool that playboys do, but a wife screwing around on him is a nasty tramp.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 28, 2018 15:23:51 GMT -5
Well, that and Stormy is a lot better spoken. And quicker on the uptake, apparently. she is also surprisingly lucid about details. that should utterly paralyze trump if he is hiding anything. and he probably is.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 28, 2018 16:33:10 GMT -5
There is a type that a man like Donald Trump marries and a type he fools around with. I think maybe he goofed up with Wife #2. You mean Marla Maples?
I think he might have been happy with her if he hadn't caught her having sex with one of his security guys.
Apparently, he's one of those guys who thinks fooling around on the wifey is just something cool that playboys do, but a wife screwing around on him is a nasty tramp.
I also think he would have been totally happy with her (at least until she showed too much age) if she didn't have sex with someone else. The fact that she was of a type that would have that sex with someone else instead of being totally faithful to him in body and soul (i.e. worship him) is why I think he goofed up marrying her instead of just fooling around with her.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 28, 2018 20:05:15 GMT -5
Well, that and Stormy is a lot better spoken. And quicker on the uptake, apparently. There is a type that a man like Donald Trump marries and a type he fools around with. I think maybe he goofed up with Wife #2. It's possible trump would never have married Maples had she not gotten pregnant by him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 20:32:08 GMT -5
you can stop right there. what trump does with women doesn't meet my standard of "like". so yeah. i don't know that. and i am a member of the set "EVERYONE". I never said "he treats them all with respect". It was meant as in "he's straight, and not sexually interested in men" You are confusing "being a gentleman" and "which gender he wants to diddle" if you have a problem with my statement.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 6, 2018 8:52:04 GMT -5
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Post by Opti on Apr 6, 2018 9:07:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't want to listen to that meeting. I don't feel very sympathetic to those who elected a devil simply because they wanted a conservative justice and more anti abortion legislation. They lost their moral high ground when they advocated electing him for those reasons. In my mind they may have lost their way permanently. How can you preach against Satan and basically elect one of his poster children?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 6, 2018 9:40:07 GMT -5
I'm thinking the evangelicals may pat trump on the back and console him with the 'men have needs' speech.
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Post by dezii on Apr 6, 2018 10:08:11 GMT -5
u beat me to it...was going to post the article of "Evangelist" leaders going to have a sit down with our Donald over his "alleged" affair..[ that he says it never happened....the man is a proven lier on just about everything]....it's about time and yes it is important....especially for a POTUS...for many Americans and for many of his supporters...thus the sit down... thehill.com/homenews/administration/381922-evangelical-leaders-planning-sit-down-with-trump-over-stormy-daniels [aren't we all..."supporters, detractors, sitters in the middle"...tired of this soap opera already..?]
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Post by dezii on Apr 6, 2018 10:10:06 GMT -5
I'm thinking the evangelicals may pat trump on the back and console him with the 'men have needs' speech. possible correct Tenn....if not needs then a terrible itch that just has to be scratched....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 12:54:51 GMT -5
I saw one of the preachers on TV and he kept saying that Trump was just a pig in the past and everyone deserves forgiveness and all the typical religious drivel.
Personally, I tihink this is proof that the "religious right" cares only about abortion, not about women's rights or actal compassion for thy neighbor and all that - at all. Hypocrite is the word that comes to mind.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 6, 2018 13:13:46 GMT -5
"To clarify why it was pointless:
EVERYONE knows that Trump likes women."
No, he doesn't. To him, a woman is just a life support system for pu*sy"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 13:22:46 GMT -5
"To clarify why it was pointless: EVERYONE knows that Trump likes women." No, he doesn't. To him, a woman is just a life support system for pu*sy" Exactly. Trump is mentally unable to give two shits about any woman, or any man for that fact. "Sex is nothing more but another tool in their manipulation and self-serving toolbox. They use sex as a way to get attention, validation, and admiration." www.passioninlove.com/how-narcissist-uses-sex-as-weapon/
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on Apr 6, 2018 13:24:03 GMT -5
Trump was asked if he ever asked for forgiveness and never said yes. He did refer to communion as "having a little cup of wine...only time I ever drink it, and having a thin cracker" He doesn't hide that he is a jerk yet some people love it.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 6, 2018 14:18:09 GMT -5
Trump was asked if he ever asked for forgiveness and never said yes. He did refer to communion as "having a little cup of wine...only time I ever drink it, and having a thin cracker" He doesn't hide that he is a jerk yet some people love it. Having a little cup of wine and a thin cracker
Does he pray to Jebus too?
His understanding of Christianity appears to be as deep and comprehensive as his understanding of how government works. Wading pool level.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 6, 2018 14:22:47 GMT -5
Trump was asked if he ever asked for forgiveness and never said yes. He did refer to communion as "having a little cup of wine...only time I ever drink it, and having a thin cracker" He doesn't hide that he is a jerk yet some people love it. Having a little cup of wine and a thin cracker
Does he pray to Jebus too?
His understanding of Christianity appears to be as deep and comprehensive as his understanding of how government works. Wading pool level.
You're being far too generous. Puddle level. Pot hole level.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 6, 2018 14:23:30 GMT -5
Trump was asked if he ever asked for forgiveness and never said yes. He did refer to communion as "having a little cup of wine...only time I ever drink it, and having a thin cracker" He doesn't hide that he is a jerk yet some people love it. Having a little cup of wine and a thin cracker
Does he pray to Jebus too?
His understanding of Christianity appears to be as deep and comprehensive as his understanding of how government works. Wading pool level.
After "Two Corinthians" that surprises you?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 14:57:56 GMT -5
Narcissists just play at religion, they don't actually believe it. They just want to be seen as if they do to further their admiration and status. "Religion can be appealing to a Narcissist for a number of reasons. As a preacher a Narcissist would have followers, power, attention, admiration, importance in the community, special privileges and their behavior would be above reproach. You don’t have to look very far to see Narcissistic leaders in action. There’s a long list of insane cult leaders, including, David Koresh in Waco Texas, or Jim Jones, in Jonestown, who forced his followers to drink Kool Aid laced with cyanide, Osama Bin Laden, and all those creepy 70 year old polygamists, who marry 14 year old girls. Narcissism can easily be found in the clergy, preaching in religious establishment around the world and you can even find it when you turn on your television on Sunday mornings." esteemology.com/narcissism-and-religion-a-perfect-match/
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 7, 2018 0:29:42 GMT -5
narcissists also have a deep need for others to think them infallible and great.
that also fits right in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 4:40:06 GMT -5
"To clarify why it was pointless: EVERYONE knows that Trump likes women." No, he doesn't. To him, a woman is just a life support system for pu*sy" As was already explained to djAdvocate , several posts ago... I never said "he treats them all with respect". It was meant as in "he's straight, and not sexually interested in men"
You are confusing "being a gentleman" and "which gender he wants to diddle" if you have a problem with my statement.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 7, 2018 17:43:36 GMT -5
As was already explained to djAdvocate , several posts ago... I never said "he treats them all with respect". It was meant as in "he's straight, and not sexually interested in men"
You are confusing "being a gentleman" and "which gender he wants to diddle" if you have a problem with my statement.You said "EVERYONE knows he likes women." He does not like women. He likes to hump* women. i think a more convincing case could be made for him hating women, honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 19:54:39 GMT -5
As was already explained to djAdvocate , several posts ago... I never said "he treats them all with respect". It was meant as in "he's straight, and not sexually interested in men"
You are confusing "being a gentleman" and "which gender he wants to diddle" if you have a problem with my statement.You said "EVERYONE knows he likes women." He does not like women. He likes to [naughty word] women. What he likes to do with women was implied in the thread and subject matter. And when he wants someone to have sex with {"[naughty word]" as you so eloquently state}, which gender does he like? He likes women. What gender is Stormy Daniels? Is she a woman? OMG! Yes! She IS! Now... who here is surprised that he'd like to stick his "Tab P" in her "Slot V"? NO one... Why? Because EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE FRACKING LIKES WOMEN. GAWD. Why is such a fracking simple fracking concept so fracking hard for some fracking people to fracking grasp? edited to replace naughty word per moon/Laura's request
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Post by kadee79 on Apr 7, 2018 20:00:55 GMT -5
He doesn't "like" women, he wants to have power over them....hence SEX in his mind is power!
I'm more inclined to agree with DJ, he is more into hate than like even with his own daughter....who he would like to "bed" too!
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Post by moon/Laura on Apr 8, 2018 19:43:16 GMT -5
OK.. there are a number of people who have either used the F bomb in a sexual context themselves, or who have quoted someone who did. The CoC states this may not be done.
weltschmerz - your simple strikethough prior to replacing the word is not enough. Please just remove it.
Those that quoted it - dezii, djAdvocate, @richardintn - please either remove the word or the quote. Your choice.
kadee79 - using *** is not enough either. New word, please.
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Post by kadee79 on Apr 8, 2018 21:00:14 GMT -5
Thank you Moon & fixed in mine.
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Post by Opti on Apr 8, 2018 21:02:45 GMT -5
You said "EVERYONE knows he likes women." He does not like women. He likes to fuck women. What he likes to do with women was implied in the thread and subject matter. And when he wants someone to have sex with {"fuck" as you so eloquently state}, which gender does he like? He likes women. What gender is Stormy Daniels? Is she a woman? OMG! Yes! She IS! Now... who here is surprised that he'd like to stick his "Tab P" in her "Slot V"? NO one... Why? Because EVERYONE KNOWS THAT HE FRACKING LIKES WOMEN. GAWD. Why is such a fracking simple fracking concept so fracking hard for some fracking people to fracking grasp? He prefers to sleep with women has nothing to do with liking women IMO. Its probably the reason other posters don't like your word choice. Plus given all the women he allegedly has forced himself on, I think the distinction between actually liking a person or gender versus wanting to have sex forcible or otherwise is important.
Would you really use the same words to describe pedophiles? Would you opine on Jerry Sanders liking boys? IMO Donald Trump doesn't really like anyone except himself. He's a user. I don't think he's capable of liking people. And given how quick he turns on so many of them, to me it shows he never really liked them, he only liked when their actions corresponded to what he wanted.
It could be fracking simple if you decided to realize you are using the word 'like' in an unusual context which I hope never becomes common. Priests liking altar boys. Relatives aren't really raping children, they just like them. I suppose there are a few funny ones. American Pie - the story of a boy liking pie. Men who like their hands ...
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