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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 24, 2018 12:19:01 GMT -5
Just what I always thought. The GOP and the immoral minority didn't really care about the sex, or the impropriety. They were trying to screw Clinton any way they could, and he foolishly stuck his ------- right in the fray. It was all purely political. Now that their boy Trump is on the scene the truth comes out. It never was about morality, or right and wrong. Thanks for illustrating the point. Some of us don't care who did what, with whom, where, when it comes to what Bill did... as long as everyone was of consenting age and indeed consented. Didn't care then, don't care now. I don't care if Trump did Stormy either. I don't care if he did a chain of people at a party in any room of the White House. I do care that nothing that Stormy Daniels says can be trusted based on the fact that she is willing to break her promise and therefore has no honor or integrity. If you willingly sign an NDA, that's giving your word that you will not disclose. So now we have two untrustworthy people (Daniels and Trump) hurling accusations... it's a pointless tempest in a teapot. Thing is, Trump is supposed to represent the "party of morality and family values". He also purports to be a good Christian, while lying and screwing hookers while his wife was pregnant with his child. Then lying and making threats. It's the sheer, unadulterated hypocrisy that bothers me, not so much the adultery
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 24, 2018 12:20:42 GMT -5
He lies so much, I'm surprised he hasn't burnt his dick off, what with his pants always being on fire, and all.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2018 19:02:42 GMT -5
Some of us don't care who did what, with whom, where, when it comes to what Bill did... as long as everyone was of consenting age and indeed consented. Didn't care then, don't care now. I don't care if Trump did Stormy either. I don't care if he did a chain of people at a party in any room of the White House. I do care that nothing that Stormy Daniels says can be trusted based on the fact that she is willing to break her promise and therefore has no honor or integrity. If you willingly sign an NDA, that's giving your word that you will not disclose. So now we have two untrustworthy people (Daniels and Trump) hurling accusations... it's a pointless tempest in a teapot. Thing is, Trump is supposed to represent the "party of morality and family values". He also purports to be a good Christian, while lying and screwing hookers while his wife was pregnant with his child. Then lying and making threats. It's the sheer, unadulterated hypocrisy that bothers me, not so much the adultery Anyone that thinks that ANY politician represents "morality and family values" is ripe to be sold some arid farmland in a specific part of the Southwestern Florida Peninsula... or a certain bridge in New York.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Mar 24, 2018 20:36:56 GMT -5
Some of us don't care who did what, with whom, where, when it comes to what Bill did... as long as everyone was of consenting age and indeed consented. Didn't care then, don't care now. I don't care if Trump did Stormy either. I don't care if he did a chain of people at a party in any room of the White House. I do care that nothing that Stormy Daniels says can be trusted based on the fact that she is willing to break her promise and therefore has no honor or integrity. If you willingly sign an NDA, that's giving your word that you will not disclose. So now we have two untrustworthy people (Daniels and Trump) hurling accusations... it's a pointless tempest in a teapot. Thing is, Trump is supposed to represent the "party of morality and family values". He also purports to be a good Christian, while lying and screwing hookers while his wife was pregnant with his child. Then lying and making threats. It's the sheer, unadulterated hypocrisy that bothers me, not so much the adultery After the Bill Clinton debacle, we were told for over a decade that it didn't matter, that his sexual escapades didn't impact his ability to do his job. You shouldn't be surprised when some people adopt that philosophy.
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Post by weltschmerz on Mar 24, 2018 21:20:19 GMT -5
One more time...the Conservative Party is supposed to be the party of family values. They certainly tout it enough.
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Post by tallguy on Mar 24, 2018 22:10:05 GMT -5
How many hours of grand jury testimony was Clinton required to undergo? And did they not bring Articles of Impeachment against him? That was even the result of a separate investigation. There are illegalities alleged in the Daniels case even before any investigation takes place. Why should Trump (and Cohen) not be forced to face questioning? Even if nobody cares about his affair, there are still the campaign-finance law violations and possible obstruction charges, not to mention the cover-up itself.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 24, 2018 22:19:36 GMT -5
Thing is, Trump is supposed to represent the "party of morality and family values". He also purports to be a good Christian, while lying and screwing hookers while his wife was pregnant with his child. Then lying and making threats. It's the sheer, unadulterated hypocrisy that bothers me, not so much the adultery After the Bill Clinton debacle, we were told for over a decade that it didn't matter, that his sexual escapades didn't impact his ability to do his job. You shouldn't be surprised when some people adopt that philosophy. if Monica was a hooker or a spy, i would have felt differently. and the man WAS impeached after all. let's not forget that little detail. edit: and weltz is right. Democrats are kinda sleazy by reputation. liberals in general. we like our sex, and the more of it the better. and watching the other half get tied in knots by that fact is half the fun.
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 25, 2018 14:16:56 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 25, 2018 14:22:17 GMT -5
it would be so picturesque if SD ended up being his undoing.
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 25, 2018 14:24:58 GMT -5
I'm crossing my fingers.
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Mar 25, 2018 16:38:53 GMT -5
"She has said that she does not want to expose the equestrian world — or her daughter — to the attendant circus trailing her now." WHAT ?? Every body knows. The majority have found/watched videos. Just to make sure this isn't fake news. The DD would have to be home schooled not to be harassed. Who in their right mind would marry 3 porn stars and raise a daughter with one? Training the next star? Edit: A lot of men picked up that hall pass from Clinton! Trump was know as a germaphobe. No handshake. How in the world did he do so many women? No one has looked at the Miss America and Miss Universe contestants. And the circus continues.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Mar 25, 2018 17:36:29 GMT -5
Saw a headline talking about what Melanie and Hillary have in common now..,,
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 25, 2018 18:02:30 GMT -5
Annnndd 60 Minures is delayed due to the NCAA basketball game.
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Post by busymom on Mar 25, 2018 19:17:12 GMT -5
Anyone else watch 60 Minutes tonight? She DOES sound credible.
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Post by Tennesseer on Mar 25, 2018 19:22:03 GMT -5
No reason to doubt her. Pretty straight forward.
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 25, 2018 19:22:12 GMT -5
The full interview is on 60 minutes, I'm watching it.
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Post by Jaguar on Mar 25, 2018 19:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 25, 2018 21:55:41 GMT -5
No reason to doubt her. Pretty straight forward. given her competition, she is believable.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Mar 26, 2018 5:05:52 GMT -5
I think its true....................and it won't make a jot of difference.
People knew who they were voting for ...and I don't see anyone wishing Hillary was in.
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Post by happyhoix on Mar 26, 2018 7:17:35 GMT -5
"She has said that she does not want to expose the equestrian world — or her daughter — to the attendant circus trailing her now." WHAT ?? Every body knows. The majority have found/watched videos. Just to make sure this isn't fake news. The DD would have to be home schooled not to be harassed. Who in their right mind would marry 3 porn stars and raise a daughter with one? Training the next star? Edit: A lot of men picked up that hall pass from Clinton! Trump was know as a germaphobe. No handshake. How in the world did he do so many women? No one has looked at the Miss America and Miss Universe contestants. And the circus continues. Yes Trump is a germaphobe but he also admits he has a thing for 'beauty' and can't help but try to kiss and fondle beautiful women.
So I think the little head overrides the big head when it comes to sex.
I watched a documentary about Trump back prior to the election and even when he was a young man in military school he fancied himself a 'playboy.' He still does.
As for the evangelicals - they knew what kind of a guy he was before they voted for him but held their noses and voted for the candidate they thought would advance their political agenda, and so far he has. I don't think anything personal he does will lose that segment of the voting public - and he periodically throws the evangelicals a bone to keep them happy (for example, his most recent action against transgendered troops).
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Post by OldCoyote on Mar 26, 2018 9:53:13 GMT -5
What is the actual purpose of this??
Do you think this will sink Trumps Presidency?
Or is this another stir up the dirt with nothing really being done.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 26, 2018 10:01:02 GMT -5
What is the actual purpose of this?? Do you think this will sink Trumps Presidency? Or is this another stir up the dirt with nothing really being done. a hooker -vs- the most powerful man in the world? i would give her a 1% chance. but she gets the sympathy vote.
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 26, 2018 11:42:10 GMT -5
What is the actual purpose of this?? Do you think this will sink Trumps Presidency? Or is this another stir up the dirt with nothing really being done. Just Merican's prudish fascination with sex playing out in the headlines.
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Mar 26, 2018 13:02:51 GMT -5
What is this negative publicity covering up?
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 26, 2018 13:07:45 GMT -5
What is this negative publicity covering up? Those porno video makers find the look-a-like to perform or give the person a ruffie then do a video while the person is out or a combination of both. What a person finds out listening to the drunks late at night. I don't understand this post.
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Post by Artemis Windsong on Mar 26, 2018 13:12:27 GMT -5
What is this negative publicity covering up? I don't understand this post. Forget the last paragraph. What is this Daniel's publicity covering up?
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Post by billisonboard on Mar 26, 2018 13:23:12 GMT -5
I don't understand this post. Forget the last paragraph. What is this Daniel's publicity covering up? I don't think it is covering up anything. Perhaps it is a distraction for those who are only able to focus on one (or in her case two ) thing(s) at a time.
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 26, 2018 14:37:28 GMT -5
I don't understand this post. Forget the last paragraph. What is this Daniel's publicity covering up? nothing that $20 and a two drink cover won't expose.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 21:42:51 GMT -5
Well... he was trying to cover up that he'd boinked a porn star. Pointless cover-up if you ask me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 22:38:53 GMT -5
To clarify why it was pointless: - EVERYONE knows that Trump likes women.
- EVERYONE knows that Trump doesn't understand marital monogamy (whether it's "cheating" or he has "arrangements" is irrelevant)
- EVERYONE knows that Trump is rich and famous, and therefore can "get" women if he wants them.
- EVERYONE knows that Trump does what he wants with whom he wants to do it (some will say he limits that to willing people some will disagree... but the general belief that he does it remains)
- She's a freaking PORN STAR. That's beau-coup "bro-points". Banged a hottie AND she's a porn star? SCORE!!!!
- NO ONE'S opinion of him would have changed one iota had this "cover up" never happened. If it came out "normally" that they bumped uglies, his supporters would have filed it under "so what? we already knew he did those things.", and his detractors would have filed it under "There's another one! We already knew he did those things!"
- And, very important, she admits that what they did was 100% consensual. she's not "#metoo-ing" this. (I actually give her props for this. She made the conscious willing choices, and accepts her part in it. She doesn't blame him for the encounter or any BS like that. I wish all women were like her in that regard. Choices have consequences, and when you make the choice you accept the consequences. She chose to go to his room, because of that the opportunity for him to proposition her arose. When he propositioned her, she accepted. Free and willing choices.)
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