Will White College Grads.....

[kadee79]

Turn the tables

, Nev. - White college graduates in America's suburbs have turned hard against Republicans in elections around the country and threaten to upend the party's control of Congress in the 2018 midterm elections.

Put off by Donald Trump's presidency, they have been shunning Republicans in congressional and state legislative contests. Their support was crucial in electing Democrats as governor in Virginia and U.S. senator in conservative Alabama.

Republican hopes for keeping control of the U.S. Senate next year will hinge on affluent, mainly white suburbs like Summerlin, Nev., where Trump's unpopularity is weighing on GOP Sen. Dean Heller in his run for reelection.



It's an open question whether the Republican Party - encumbered by Trump's often racially charged cultural appeals to blue-collar voters - has repelled well-educated whites for the long term.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/white-college-grads-distaste-for-trump-hurt-gop-in-2017-will-they-flip-control-of-congress-to-democrats-in-2018/ar-BBHkY7A?li=BBnb7Kz

[dezii]

At this stage of things I will take any and all who are fed up with our Donald's antics..even those who swing right on most matters...then w can possible get back to the normal; back and fourths of a two party system...with compromises and level headed leaderships on both sides..possible back to American values...not shrinking from Americas leadership in the world and spend our $ wisely...possible even getting our debt started in going the other way...

[mroped]

Best would be a third party that would carve a piece significant enough from each party and would bring about balance. Just red and blue isn’t enough anymore!

[Value Buy]

In what recent decade did the white College kids not vote Democratic? 

[busymom]

There is a college Republican group at DD's former college, and a number of them refused to vote for Trump in 2016, as their group didn't see him as a "true" Republican.  I doubt that view has changed much.  No wonder Trump stated that he "loves the uneducated".  

[dezii]

Dec 26, 2017 20:56:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

In what recent decade did the white College kids not vote Democratic? 

I remember Nixon's second inauguration...all young delegates, helpers and gofers...lily white,  looked alike from the right side of the tracks...enough so that it's something I remembered...Nixon crushed Goldwater I believe...and then came Watergate....

[Tennesseer]

Dec 26, 2017 20:56:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

In what recent decade did the white College kids not vote Democratic? 

If what you say is true, it doesn't speak well for the educational levels of Republican men and women. None went to college.

[Value Buy]

Dec 26, 2017 22:37:12 GMT -5 dezii said:

Dec 26, 2017 20:56:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

In what recent decade did the white College kids not vote Democratic? 

I remember Nixon's second inauguration...all young delegates, helpers and gofers...lily white,  looked alike from the right side of the tracks...enough so that it's something I remembered...Nixon crushed Goldwater I believe...and then came Watergate....

In other words, five decades ago. Thanks for proving my point, but even then it was not the white college vote that elected him. 

[mroped]

Dec 26, 2017 20:56:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

In what recent decade did the white College kids not vote Democratic? 

So you are saying that Trump had been voted just by old and uninformed people with the highest level of education at HS Diploma
I’m gonna abstain from calling them “uneducated” since I don’t believe the possession of a Diploma means absolutely nothing anymore.
Look at Trump for example; he has one from Warthon mind you! He still acts like a douche and talks at a 75 IQ level.

[dezii]

Dec 27, 2017 9:21:45 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Dec 26, 2017 22:37:12 GMT -5 dezii said:

I remember Nixon's second inauguration...all young delegates, helpers and gofers...lily white,  looked alike from the right side of the tracks...enough so that it's something I remembered...Nixon crushed Goldwater I believe...and then came Watergate....

In other words, five decades ago. Thanks for proving my point, but even then it was not the white college vote that elected him. 

Why not stop this contest u seem to have with your self in "proving your points",,,no one else here is playing...most just commenting on topics presented...their own feelings and thoughts and at times learning something new that they weren't aware of....just saying.

[dezii]

Dec 27, 2017 9:38:50 GMT -5 mroped said:

Dec 26, 2017 20:56:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

In what recent decade did the white College kids not vote Democratic? 

So you are saying that Trump had been voted just by old and uninformed people with the highest level of education at HS Diploma
I’m gonna abstain from calling them “uneducated” since I don’t believe the possession of a Diploma means absolutely nothing anymore.
Look at Trump for example; he has one from Warthon mind you! He still acts like a douche and talks at a 75 IQ level.

Man is intelligent...has a above average IQ in fact....

The problem is his social graces really suck...his inability to suffer any criticism and learn from it is nil...The fact is, he really is not a very nice man.

naturally, IMHO OF COURSE  

[thyme4change]

Dec 26, 2017 20:56:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

In what recent decade did the white College kids not vote Democratic? 

The article is vague, but I am not sure they are talking about recent grads. I think the point was the college-educated white folks, no matter what year they graduated college, who voted for trump are the ones who are regretting their decision. They interviewed a 77 year old woman, so I don't think they are talking about exclusively about recent grads in their 20s.

[Value Buy]

Dec 28, 2017 15:21:18 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Dec 26, 2017 20:56:50 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

In what recent decade did the white College kids not vote Democratic? 

The article is vague, but I am not sure they are talking about recent grads. I think the point was the college-educated white folks, no matter what year they graduated college, who voted for Trump are the ones who are regretting their decision. They interviewed a 77 year old woman, so I don't think they are talking about exclusively about recent grads in their 20s.

And we have white people who in hindsight regretted voting for Obama......but refuse to publicly acknowledge it, just like Trump voters say they will not vote for him ever.......and still did and will again in 2020

[Tennesseer]

Dec 30, 2017 8:35:05 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Dec 28, 2017 15:21:18 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

The article is vague, but I am not sure they are talking about recent grads. I think the point was the college-educated white folks, no matter what year they graduated college, who voted for Trump are the ones who are regretting their decision. They interviewed a 77 year old woman, so I don't think they are talking about exclusively about recent grads in their 20s.

And we have white people who in hindsight regretted voting for Obama......but refuse to publicly acknowledge it, just like Trump voters say they will not vote for him ever.......and still did and will again in 2020

Are trump supporters that paranoid they would lie to a polling company to protect their personal politics? Polling companies are only interested in the demographics of the person being polled such as age, race, gender, education, area of country where they reside, maybe political party affiliation.

Why not tell the truth? What is there to fear? Why even agree to be polled?

[Value Buy]

Dec 30, 2017 10:33:54 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Dec 30, 2017 8:35:05 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

And we have white people who in hindsight regretted voting for Obama......but refuse to publicly acknowledge it, just like Trump voters say they will not vote for him ever.......and still did and will again in 2020

Are Trump supporters that paranoid they would lie to a polling company to protect their personal politics? Polling companies are only interested in the demographics of the person being polled such as age, race, gender, education, area of country where they reside, maybe political party affiliation.

Why not tell the truth? What is there to fear? Why even agree to be polled?

IDNK
Maybe, the deep state still embedded in D.C.?
The still embedded Obama Justice Department mgmt teams that could still destroy them financially through political retribution?
The FBI embedded democrats?
Maybe they like trolling MSNBC, CNN, NY Times, and Washington Post?
Who knows?

[Tennesseer]

Dec 30, 2017 11:42:56 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Dec 30, 2017 10:33:54 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Are Trump supporters that paranoid they would lie to a polling company to protect their personal politics? Polling companies are only interested in the demographics of the person being polled such as age, race, gender, education, area of country where they reside, maybe political party affiliation.

Why not tell the truth? What is there to fear? Why even agree to be polled?

IDNK
Maybe, the deep state still embedded in D.C.?
The still embedded Obama Justice Department mgmt teams that could still destroy them financially through political retribution?
The FBI embedded democrats?
Maybe they like trolling MSNBC, CNN, NY Times, and Washington Post?
Who knows?

All your poosible reasons sound paranoid. Not healthy.

[Value Buy]

Sometimes the truth hurts, but you asked me a question and I prefaced  it with IDNK.
I gave you some suggestions, and whether paranoid or not, all the suggestions are not to be assumed all hit a voter's total rationale.

It might have been the last one that many went with. IDNK
I do know there were people afraid to tell their relatives they were avid Trump voters due to being verbally abused by family members.
Obviously since he got plus 48% of the vote someone, actually millions of them, fibbed about who they were voting for.

[tallguy]

Dec 30, 2017 12:10:08 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Sometimes the truth hurts, but you asked me a question and I prefaced  it with IDNK.
I gave you some suggestions, and whether paranoid or not, all the suggestions are not to be assumed all hit a voter's total rationale.

It might have been the last one that many went with. IDNK
I do know there were people afraid to tell their relatives they were avid Trump voters due to being verbally abused by family members.
Obviously since he got plus 48% of the vote someone, actually millions of them, fibbed about who they were voting for.

What could possibly make you say that?  Here are facts:

Of the last 13 national polls conducted, twelve had Clinton ahead while one had Trump ahead.  The average margin was Clinton ahead by 3.1%.  She won the popular vote by 2.1%, with the actual numbers being 48.2% - 46.1%.  That is EASILY within margin of error.  ALL 12 of the ones that had Clinton leading were closer to the actual margin than the one that had Trump leading, which means that they were essentially more accurate than the one that had Trump.  National polls have nothing to do with the Electoral College, so you can save that response.  State polls can be utilized with the EC, but not national ones.  National polling was very accurate as far as voting margin goes. 

[Value Buy]

Dec 30, 2017 12:36:06 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Dec 30, 2017 12:10:08 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Sometimes the truth hurts, but you asked me a question and I prefaced  it with IDNK.
I gave you some suggestions, and whether paranoid or not, all the suggestions are not to be assumed all hit a voter's total rationale.

It might have been the last one that many went with. IDNK
I do know there were people afraid to tell their relatives they were avid Trump voters due to being verbally abused by family members.
Obviously since he got plus 48% of the vote someone, actually millions of them, fibbed about who they were voting for.

What could possibly make you say that?  Here are facts:

Of the last 13 national polls conducted, twelve had Clinton ahead while one had Trump ahead.  The average margin was Clinton ahead by 3.1%.  She won the popular vote by 2.1%, with the actual numbers being 48.2% - 46.1%.  That is EASILY within margin of error.  ALL 12 of the ones that had Clinton leading were closer to the actual margin than the one that had Trump leading, which means that they were essentially more accurate than the one that had Trump.  National polls have nothing to do with the Electoral College, so you can save that response.  State polls can be utilized with the EC, but not national ones.  National polling was very accurate as far as voting margin goes. 

Bolded.
Most posters here had no clue he would win.
MSNBC and CNN did not think he would win, even at ten pm that night........ok, they refused to think he had won, let alone say it
Most Republicans honestly believed on that Tuesday he was toast.
Hell, even Fox cable was softening the vibes to let their viewers know it was looking bad, until about 7 pm eastern time.
Love to see posters here trying to change the actual thought processes going on in the first week of November of 2016.

[tallguy]

The discussion was about polling and people being willing to say who they were voting for.  The national numbers were quite accurate.  They said he would lose the popular vote.  He did, by very close to the predicted margin.  Why do you think you need to change the discussion now?  

[thyme4change]

Dec 30, 2017 8:35:05 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Dec 28, 2017 15:21:18 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

The article is vague, but I am not sure they are talking about recent grads. I think the point was the college-educated white folks, no matter what year they graduated college, who voted for Trump are the ones who are regretting their decision. They interviewed a 77 year old woman, so I don't think they are talking about exclusively about recent grads in their 20s.

And we have white people who in hindsight regretted voting for Obama......but refuse to publicly acknowledge it, just like Trump voters say they will not vote for him ever.......and still did and will again in 2020

I am sure there are people who aren't happy with Trump, but will still vote for him over whomever the Dems put up in 2020. The best I can hope for is less people hate the 2020 Dem candidate than hated Hillary.

[dezii]

Dec 30, 2017 13:21:02 GMT -5 tallguy said:

The discussion was about polling and people being willing to say who they were voting for.  The national numbers were quite accurate.  They said he would lose the popular vote.  He did, by very close to the predicted margin.  Why do you think you need to change the discussion now?  

By changing the discussions he can get it to the point of showing he was one of the few who predicted the election out come...makes him look whatever..

He has been congratulated on that feat back when it happened..now it is just old news ...think he likes basking in the achievement while most of us have moved on...that's my feeling for his changing the discussion.