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Post by Opti on Jan 8, 2018 10:02:39 GMT -5
Don't you kind of wish that Trump could spin his head around backward like in The Exorcist? Maybe the whoosh of air coming out of his mouth could propel the GOP forward instead of backward. Hey, you never know. OT, but a visitor the other day said we should get all the politicians to the shore of the eastern seaboard and have them start talking. He figured that way the storm would be pushed further out to sea and the east could be spared some of the worst weather.
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Post by happyhoix on Jan 8, 2018 11:02:16 GMT -5
I read over the weekend that Sander's democratic socialist party has 5X more members now then it did prior to the 2016 election.
This is one of my big fears with Trump - the backlash will push us right over into socialism.
The larger the multiple, the less worried you should be. Large factors are usually the consequence of small denominators. It's a lot easier for an organization with 50,000 members to grow 500% than for an organization with a million members. Having said this, socialism is becoming significantly more popular among younger demographics. It may have something to do with students hitting new lows in mathematical proficiency. That or they're graduating from college with enormous student debt and are suddenly no longer on their parent's healthcare program and they've got sticker shock about health care costs.
It's appealing to look at socialist countries that have free healthcare and university education and wonder why you can't have that, too.
I'm curious - I know Canada provides healthcare for everyone, do they help with college tuition too? Maybe all our millennials will migrate to Canada.
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Post by Virgil Showlion on Jan 8, 2018 11:22:01 GMT -5
The larger the multiple, the less worried you should be. Large factors are usually the consequence of small denominators. It's a lot easier for an organization with 50,000 members to grow 500% than for an organization with a million members. Having said this, socialism is becoming significantly more popular among younger demographics. It may have something to do with students hitting new lows in mathematical proficiency. That or they're graduating from college with enormous student debt and are suddenly no longer on their parent's healthcare program and they've got sticker shock about health care costs.
It's appealing to look at socialist countries that have free healthcare and university education and wonder why you can't have that, too.
I'm curious - I know Canada provides healthcare for everyone, do they help with college tuition too? Maybe all our millennials will migrate to Canada.
A student is lucky if government picks up 20% of their tuition costs over a 4-year degree, but federal and provincial governments subsidize academic institutions in many ways, including lowering tuition costs. As for the allure of socialism (i.e. spending other people's money and borrowing against future entitlements), you're wise to worry about its growth. Still, our healthcare system is melting down at a much slower rate than your own. Socialized healthcare (which is actually hybridized public-private healthcare in Canada, and a lot more capitalist in parts than foreigners realize) does tend to work better when the number of medical professionals is tightly bottle-necked. At least for now.
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Post by swamp on Jan 8, 2018 12:28:49 GMT -5
www.mcgill.ca/undergraduate-admissions/yearly-costsHere are the costs to attend McGill University in Montreal, a very well respected institution. It's nothing like the $60k that it would cost you to go to MIT, or Rensselaer, or any other private college in the US. So, yeah, while the feds will only pay about 20% in Canada, it's 20% of 10,000, not $60,000
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 13:26:16 GMT -5
The move to conservativism will fail when people realize they are working like a dog and the guy at the top is making all the money. We will get there in the next 20 years. The gap is widening and life is getting worse for the people at the bottom - no medical care, no retirement funds, no job security, full time jobs disappearing, etc. The conservatives did a good job convincing people that it was caused by liberals and the money is going to welfare receipants and illegal immigrants, but that isn't the full story. Once the republicans take away social security and Medicare, light bulbs will start appearing over some heads. I read over the weekend that Sander's democratic socialist party has 5X more members now then it did prior to the 2016 election.
This is one of my big fears with Trump - the backlash will push us right over into socialism.
And this is the lesson that is never learned from history.
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Post by weltschmerz on Jan 8, 2018 13:55:38 GMT -5
The larger the multiple, the less worried you should be. Large factors are usually the consequence of small denominators. It's a lot easier for an organization with 50,000 members to grow 500% than for an organization with a million members. Having said this, socialism is becoming significantly more popular among younger demographics. It may have something to do with students hitting new lows in mathematical proficiency. That or they're graduating from college with enormous student debt and are suddenly no longer on their parent's healthcare program and they've got sticker shock about health care costs.
It's appealing to look at socialist countries that have free healthcare and university education and wonder why you can't have that, too.
I'm curious - I know Canada provides healthcare for everyone, do they help with college tuition too? Maybe all our millennials will migrate to Canada.
Yes, absolutely. Our universities are heavily subsidized by the taxpayers. Everyone should have equal access to healthcare and education.
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