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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 8:52:18 GMT -5
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Mar 28, 2011 9:07:21 GMT -5
Most public pension funds are severely underfunded and many have not had their required state contributions made or the contributions were short, resulting in funding shortfalls.
During the boom economic years of the Bush admin, when the markets were rising at 15% and 20% year after year, it was typical for public pension funds to not have contributions made because the rising markets compensated for it.
It is ironic that the very thing that will save all pension funds for that matter, is high corporate profits, rising stock prices across the board... the current climate in our govt is anti-corp profits and very anti-Wall Street.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on Mar 28, 2011 10:12:42 GMT -5
I agree with SF about pension funds being underfunded. My former state consistently underfunded their contribution, and the state borrowed money from the pension funds to pay other bills, which was similar to what happened with SS.
To highlight the mismanagement and corruption in the over sight of public pension funds, and the shenanigans that go on, in 2010, the State of NY, did not have money to make the required annual contribution to the NY State Pension fund... so in order to meet the legal requirement, NY State borrowed the money it needed from the pension fund and used these borrowed funds to make the contribution back to the pension fund.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2011 10:15:24 GMT -5
To highlight the mismanagement and corruption in the over sight of public pension funds, and the shenanigans that go on, in 2010, the State of NY, did not have money to make the required annual contribution to the NY State Pension fund... so in order to meet the legal requirement, NY State borrowed the money it needed from the pension fund and used these borrowed funds to make the contribution back to the pension fund. WOW So it's like you owe me $100, and you borrow a $100 from me to pay me back the $100 you owe me. Gotta love it ;D
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Post by souldoubt on Mar 28, 2011 10:19:13 GMT -5
The PEW Center on the states did an analysis on state pensions in February 2010 for the fiscal year end 2008 (google to find the study). Granted the numbers looked worse given the timing of the report but regardless at that point states had liabilities of 3.35T and assets of 2.35T so they were facing a 1T gap. Even before the economy took a many state pensions had been underfunded for years and the study points this out in the first few pages.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2011 21:47:29 GMT -5
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