Trump Opponents Are Mentally Unstable & Unfit To Hold Office

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

The only people mentally unstable are those that think there's some scenario where they can nullify an election and nothing else will happen.

There's absolutely no scenario where Trump is forced from office where there won't be hell to pay. 


People that think of nothing but "getting rid of Trump" without considering the dystopian nightmare any such scenario would produce are the ones who are mentally unstable and unfit for office.


Once the forgotten men and women of America are shown that there's no peaceful means of installing a government that represents them because a corrupt political establishment will simply undo any electoral result they don't like, there will be blood in the streets.


This isn't an exaggeration, it's not hyperbole. When you can't elect a government without the approval of the government? It's time for that government to go.


When ballots no longer give people the power to change government- and I'm not talking about an entitlement to win, but rather winning and having the result nullified- then there will be no peaceful options left for draining the swamp. 

Ballots are the barrier to bullets. Never doubt it.

[Tennesseer]

The insane believe everyone else is mentally unstable.

[billisonboard]

Oct 13, 2017 8:30:17 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

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This isn't an exaggeration, it's not hyperbole. When you can't elect a government without the approval of the government? It's time for that government to go.


When ballots no longer give people the power to change government- and I'm not talking about an entitlement to win, but rather winning and having the result nullified- then there will be no peaceful options left for draining the swamp. 

Ballots are the barrier to bullets. Never doubt it.

But unfortunately your title is exaggeration and designed to get an emotional response.

I say unfortunately because I agree with what you say, just not how you say it. The midterm elections give the American voter an opportunity to show support for or dissatisfaction with where President Trump is taking the country and 2020 will be final confirmation. That is the path we need to follow. 

[swamp]

I agree with you that the mid term removal of trump would be a clusterfuck of giant proportions.    I don't think his opponents are mentally ill, though.  I think they are quite rational.   

[happyhoix]

Oct 13, 2017 8:30:17 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

The only people mentally unstable are those that think there's some scenario where they can nullify an election and nothing else will happen.

There's absolutely no scenario where Trump is forced from office where there won't be hell to pay. 

The two routes to getting rid of Trump are impeachment or the 25th amendment. In both cases, a majority of GOP politicians would have to come together and agree that Trump has to go.

I don't think either is likely. If we do end up going that route, there would have to be concrete evidence that Trump did something really heinous or unstable, and if that happened, I suspect that even Trump's hardcore 34% of supporters would be disgusted enough to want him gone. The VP, cabinet and congress would never do any action that didn't have the overwhelming majority of support from the rest of the country.

After all, Nixon had his own hardcore supporters, and I don't recall a civil war breaking out when Nixon resigned. The country, by that point, was just eager to get past him.

Bannon thinks he's a kingmaker, and every candidate he backs will sweep their election in 2018. Time will tell.

 

[dondub]

  The slavering minions of the cult of personality that is Trump are the ones that are mentally unstable. That they would consider "blood in the streets" if Trump is legitimately removed from office proves it. These fringe rightwing extremists are fascists.

[justme]

Oct 13, 2017 11:50:51 GMT -5 alwaysbeoptimizing said:

Oct 13, 2017 11:29:17 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

The two routes to getting rid of Trump are impeachment or the 25th amendment. In both cases, a majority of GOP politicians would have to come together and agree that Trump has to go.

I don't think either is likely. If we do end up going that route, there would have to be concrete evidence that Trump did something really heinous or unstable, and if that happened, I suspect that even Trump's hardcore 34% of supporters would be disgusted enough to want him gone. The VP, cabinet and congress would never do any action that didn't have the overwhelming majority of support from the rest of the country.

After all, Nixon had his own hardcore supporters, and I don't recall a civil war breaking out when Nixon resigned. The country, by that point, was just eager to get past him.

Bannon thinks he's a kingmaker, and every candidate he backs will sweep their election in 2018. Time will tell.

wouldn't elections be a way to get rid of Trump if the nation wants to do that?  Specifically, the presidential election in 2020?  why break the republic

 

So you're saying when they went after Nixon and Clinton they were trying to break the republic by impeaching them and should have just waited until the next election?

[Phoenix84]

The title is misleading, but overall I concur. 

But I don't there are very many people that seriously think that the 2016 election is going to get nullified on some kind of technicality. Sure, there may be a few holdouts that fantasize that some court or some legal technicality will somehow make Hillary Clinton President while Trump is taken out of the oval office in handcuffs, but that's just a pipedream with no basis in reality.  Especially since Trump has been president for the better part of a year now.

Impeachment is always a possibility, like with any president, and is a separate issue.  But I don't see the results of the 2016 election being challenged in any meaningful way at this point. 

Regarding impeachment, it's difficult to pull off.  In fact, it's never been completely pulled off in our nation's history, so I consider the odds of Trump getting impeached and actually removed from office pretty low.  In order for that to happen, there would have to be rock solid evidence of real wrongdoing on the part of the president.  A legal technicality won't cut it.   

 

[Phoenix84]

Not liking Trump and being mad as hell that he won is not an impeachable offense.  It also doesn't matter how low his approval ratings are.  There has to be real evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors sufficient for congress to vote for his removal. 

I don't think if that's the case, that there will be blood in the streets as paul put it, since there would be the aforementioned evidence and congress would be performing it's duty.  I think most people would accept a justified impeachment.  But so far, I haven't seen any evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors that warrant impeachment. 

I agree with paul that the idea of invalidating the 2016 election on some legal technicality would likely infuriate a good portion of the electorate, possibly to the point of violence.  But that's a different scenario than impeachment. 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I've always assumed if Trump got impeached then Pence would take his place.  If Pence got the boot for whatever reason then it just continues down the line of succession.


Never once has it occurred to me that the 2016 election would be reversed.   That sets a bad precedent.  There are countries that conduct their politics that way, I don't think we want to become them.

[weltschmerz]

Oct 13, 2017 8:30:17 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

The only people mentally unstable are those that think there's some scenario where they can nullify an election and nothing else will happen.

There's absolutely no scenario where Trump is forced from office where there won't be hell to pay. 


People that think of nothing but "getting rid of Trump" without considering the dystopian nightmare any such scenario would produce are the ones who are mentally unstable and unfit for office.


Once the forgotten men and women of America are shown that there's no peaceful means of installing a government that represents them because a corrupt political establishment will simply undo any electoral result they don't like, there will be blood in the streets.


This isn't an exaggeration, it's not hyperbole. When you can't elect a government without the approval of the government? It's time for that government to go.


When ballots no longer give people the power to change government- and I'm not talking about an entitlement to win, but rather winning and having the result nullified- then there will be no peaceful options left for draining the swamp. 

Ballots are the barrier to bullets. Never doubt it.

...and you think TRUMP is mentally stable?
Too funny!

[billisonboard]

“What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure,” Jefferson wrote in a letter to William S. Smith, a diplomatic official in London, on November 13, 1787.

I think he should have included "... tyrants and those who support them". Of course, it will be the victors who decide who falls into each category.

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

The Trump is unstable narrative will go the way of all the rest of the attacks on Trump. The left has bigger Weinstein's to fry right now. How many other shoes are going to drop in Hollywood? Reagan was good, but Trump is awe-inspiring. Reagan's changes were political, and they were undone inside of a decade. The Trump revolution is about institutional change- the big institutions on the left have been rotting on the inside for decades, but the Trump derangement garment-rending and ash-heaping is absolutely tearing apart what remains of the institutional left. The Democratic party is in shambles, the media is dead, Hollywood- which in spite of the fact that most people already intuitively know it's fake- at least enjoyed the pretense of moral authority on issues the left holds dear- imploding, the left's assault on the NFL, and the ridiculous sports drive-by media have been repelled, billions in regulations have been swept away with a stroke a pen while the leadership of every major bureaucracy systematically weakens and sets the stage for their dismantling; the SCOTUS is lost for a generation while nearly 300 federal judges await certain confirmation. Trump will have his way on immigration by and large-- the sanctuary city nonsense will be resolved, he'll give away DACA as a sop-- 800K to get rid of 11M? We'll take it-- one thing is for certain though, the immigration debate is over. A sane, orderly, common sense immigration policy which rolls back laxity which dates back to 1964 is all but certain, and we will NEVER return to open borders and amnesty talk again. Globalist trade deals going back to NAFTA are being rolled back and nothing like them will ever emerge again in our lifetimes; the Iran deal will be decertified- and/or sent to Congress as a treaty forcing a vote that will with certainty scrap it; Trump is bankrupting and choking off North Korea while restoring credible deterrence.


Reagan made changes, but he mostly led a rhetorical fight. Trump is punching through enemy lines, and seizing territory that will become a permanent territory of the right for generations to come. It's remarkable-- I will admit I never dreamt this much winning was possible. I never dreamt of victories on the scale we're enjoying now. 

The best part is that when the left wins, everyone loses. When the established political order wins- everyone loses. But when conservatives win- when America wins-- everyone wins.

[Tennesseer]

[zibazinski]

What shocking news!

[tallguy]

You misspelled "Supporters" in your title.  Don't worry, we know what you meant.

[busymom]

I personally find it fascinating that psychiatrists have gone on record, to state that they think our current POTUS is "not right in the head".  It's one thing for the average person to consider someone "crazy", but totally something else when a licensed professional believes it to be a fact.  I'd love to be a mouse in the corner if he is ever forced to have that examination.  


By the way, LOL on "when conservatives win, everybody wins".  I know a number of people who were burned by the policies put in by the Reagan administration.  And, since the current administration is planning to throw millions off of health insurance, what do they win?  A free funeral?  Hardly!  

[zibazinski]

I’ll bet Carter is thrilled to no longer be considered the worst president in the last fifty plus years.

[tallguy]

Oct 14, 2017 22:33:38 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I’ll bet Carter is thrilled to no longer be considered the worst president in the last fifty plus years.

Actually, he wasn't before.  In none of the five major surveys since George W. Bush left office has he ranked ahead of Carter.  You are correct though that Trump is far worse, and seems to have already surpassed Bush as well.  The people who should really be happy are the descendants of Warren Gamaliel Harding.  

[zibazinski]

That’s why I only put 50 years in

[busymom]

I guess every generation has their "favorites".  My Mom's generation was telling me Hoover was the worst.  

[tallguy]

Oct 14, 2017 22:55:27 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

That’s why I only put 50 years in

Then it is still Bush and not Carter who should be thrilled.

[zibazinski]

I don’t agree. But that’s no surprise.

[tallguy]

Well, I have several large groups of presidential scholars and historians to back up my contention.  I figure that's enough.

[zibazinski]

Their opinions are, of course, their opinions.

[tallguy]

True, but it takes a surprisingly small sample size to approach a statistically significant result, and when it is their job to have studied the matter I tend to put more stock into their opinions than any random person elsewhere.  No offense intended. 

[weltschmerz]

Oct 14, 2017 22:54:32 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Oct 14, 2017 22:33:38 GMT -5 zibazinski said:

I’ll bet Carter is thrilled to no longer be considered the worst president in the last fifty plus years.

Actually, he wasn't before.  In none of the five major surveys since George W. Bush left office has he ranked ahead of Carter.  You are correct though that Trump is far worse, and seems to have already surpassed Bush as well.  The people who should really be happy are the descendants of Warren Gamaliel Harding.  

[b2r]

Uproar as Capitol Hill pharmacist dishes on Alzheimer's prescriptions for the powerful

The owner of the Capitol Hill pharmacy that supplies prescription drugs for members of Congress and staff has sparked a frenzy of speculation after claiming he gives meds to lawmakers with “pretty serious health problems” and appearing to question their mental faculties.



“At first it’s cool, and then you realize, I’m filling some drugs that are for some pretty serious health problems as well. And these are the people that are running the country,”

www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/12/uproar-as-capitol-hill-pharmacist-dishes-on-prescriptions-for-powerful.html

 

[Tennesseer]

Oct 15, 2017 6:48:29 GMT -5 b2r said:

 

From your link:

"The pharmacist clarified to the same publication that he didn't actually know whether a member of Congress has Alzheimer's."

[happyhoix]

Oct 14, 2017 21:31:35 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

The Trump is unstable narrative will go the way of all the rest of the attacks on Trump. The left has bigger Weinstein's to fry right now.

Golly, you're so right, Weinstein is a liberal donor and now that everyone has found out he's a sexual predator, all the liberals are disgraced and no one will like them now.

Because there's never been a rich and powerful GOP donor who grabbed women and kissed them against their will or - well, no one except Roger Ailes.

Well, Roger Ailes and maybe Trump himself.