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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Oct 11, 2017 22:24:36 GMT -5
Ava, I've been looking for a copyeditor for my disseration and am looking at this site: www.the-efa.org/some of them mention resume writing, and you can specify your field. Might be worth a try?
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Post by justme on Oct 12, 2017 1:52:48 GMT -5
Ava, I wish you the best. One temp firm is roberthalf.com and they used to be highly recommended because they specialize in the accounting world. I know a couple of people that used them a few years ago to get their foot in the door, so to speak. Keep in mind that local governments have just passed their budgets for the next year and sometimes they drag their feet with posting their open positions. Also, even though Miami area has a higher COL then my area, it is still cheaper than the area that you are coming from. I know you have researched the COL, but don't disregard jobs that pay much lower than what you are making now. Not much help, I know, but just things that you may not have though about. Hi, Sue. Thanks for the well-wishes. I applied to RobertHalf three times and never got any sort of response. My guess is that they are bombarded with applicants. Was it Florida jobs for them or local? I'm guessing they won't look so much for temp jobs out of state (I've never heard back from them on out of state stuff I fish l didn't know till after was them). Applying to local stuff might get you feedback even if you don't want the jobs. I've dealt with the other half of Robert and they were helpful because they only get paid when they place you.
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Post by andi9899 on Oct 12, 2017 14:19:00 GMT -5
Are there any professional type job headhunters you could use to expand your network? Honestly it takes MONTHS to land a job now. Used to be you apply and start shortly thereafter. Now there are months and months of processing. It's really ridiculous. I've reached out to two professional recruiters through LinkedIn, neither got back to me. I guess I got lucky when I got my current job. I filled out 40 applications and three weeks later I was with my current company. It looks like it is taking longer nowadays, way longer. Just keep at it and maybe seek advice from others in the industry. I've had it take minths to find a job and I've had it just be a couple of weeks. But this time of year is a good time, so just keep blasting out resumes and looking for recruiters. What sites do you have your resume on?
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Post by movingforward on Oct 12, 2017 15:03:42 GMT -5
I've been looking for almost a month for an entry level CPA job in Florida. So far no bites. Not a single question or request for interview. A couple of gov. Jobs with Florida cities turned me down within a day. Other than that absolute silence. I don't want to panic but I don't feel good about this. Looks like being an out of state candidate is a huge drawback. I decided against moving without a job lined up. I think I'll wait a little longer and then switch my license application to CT. Are you looking at other type of jobs like experienced accounting jobs that don't necessarily require a CPA? I know you have worked long and hard to get your CPA license but looking at jobs that don't require a CPA might open up some more options to finding something specifically in FL. Once you are there you can then start looking at CPA firms, etc.
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Post by Phoenix84 on Oct 13, 2017 8:19:16 GMT -5
In my experience, to get any professional job takes on the order of six months, sometimes longer.
Don't give up after one month.
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 13, 2017 8:25:05 GMT -5
Look into large department stores like Macy's or Nordstrom. My cousin got laid off from the bank he'd worked for for over twenty years. He was in the "don't hire" age according to some older people who were laid off at over 50. He got a job in the Nordstroms fraud department.
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Post by simser on Oct 13, 2017 10:38:53 GMT -5
I heard a rule of thumb once that made a lot of sense to me. "it takes a month of job searching per 10k in salary". It's not perfect, but it shows that it's a lot harder to find a job paying 100k/year than one that pays 30. I also decided that's how much money I wanted in my emergency fund (for me, a year of expenses since I make 120k).
It took me 6 months to find my last job, but I know people who took 18 months. It's an average. Regardless, I think you're giving up way too easily.
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Post by Ava on Oct 13, 2017 11:18:47 GMT -5
I am way too confused. On one hand I feel, like simser, that I am throwing the towel too early. On the other hand, I put a lot of time, effort, money, etc. on this to let it go to waste. The Connecticut CPA people reached back to me and indicated what forms I need to fill out to start my application here. I have to start a brand new application and then request that Florida transfer my grades to Connecticut, once my application has been accepted. I hope it gets accepted. My former professor also got back to me and we are going to meet in a couple of weeks.
I would love to be in Florida. I truly dislike Connecticut. It's just that after a month of sending job applications and getting nothing I am feeling frustrated and worried that I will end up with nothing. If I had gotten at least an email back, a question, a request for a phone interview I wouldn't mind. But I have nothing.
I really don't know how to proceed. I never thought it would be so hard after passing the exam.
I guess I'll start my Connecticut application and start sending resumes to both Florida and Connecticut for now and see what happens. If my former professor truly can connect me with employers, really, how can you beat that, even though it's here in CT? Right now it feels like my Florida applications are falling into a big black hole, never to be seen or heard again.
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Post by jkapp on Oct 14, 2017 9:47:44 GMT -5
I am way too confused. On one hand I feel, like simser, that I am throwing the towel too early. On the other hand, I put a lot of time, effort, money, etc. on this to let it go to waste. The Connecticut CPA people reached back to me and indicated what forms I need to fill out to start my application here. I have to start a brand new application and then request that Florida transfer my grades to Connecticut, once my application has been accepted. I hope it gets accepted. My former professor also got back to me and we are going to meet in a couple of weeks. I would love to be in Florida. I truly dislike Connecticut. It's just that after a month of sending job applications and getting nothing I am feeling frustrated and worried that I will end up with nothing. If I had gotten at least an email back, a question, a request for a phone interview I wouldn't mind. But I have nothing. I really don't know how to proceed. I never thought it would be so hard after passing the exam. I guess I'll start my Connecticut application and start sending resumes to both Florida and Connecticut for now and see what happens. If my former professor truly can connect me with employers, really, how can you beat that, even though it's here in CT? Right now it feels like my Florida applications are falling into a big black hole, never to be seen or heard again. I haven't read every post, but have you tried a professional staffing service like Accountemps (or whatever Florida might have)? I tried finding my own job last time I relocated but after three months, I started using Accountemps. I had a job within another 6 weeks or so.
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Post by lund on Oct 15, 2017 14:09:38 GMT -5
Don't panic as long as you have a job (=income and health insurance). I think that you still have those last credits left. Would taking them while searching for a job in both FL and CT and working the present job be a good idea? If you get a job in FL, you can move, and if you get a job in CT, would it be possible to transfer at that point?
I would guess that having a job in CT is better than no job in FL, and that after gaining some experience and getting some new contacts, you will be more moveable. Perhaps a new plan where you get a job in CT and get the needed classes and signing off, then getting an employer who is either in FL or a large corporation which is active in several states, and then moving would be a good idea.
Remember that you are a good employee, you have taken the exams, and that you will get through this.
It sounds to me as if the previously very fast job finding process in the USA is slowing down and getting more like Northern Europe. Hang in there!
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Post by Ava on Oct 16, 2017 7:47:48 GMT -5
Sent an email to an Accountemps recruiter. She answered immediately. She said she is very interested in meeting me but cannot place people who are not living in the Miami area. Very, very frustrating. She said I should contact her once I move there. Aaaaahhh! I need a job in order to move.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 16, 2017 8:30:44 GMT -5
Well at least now you have a possible answer as to why you aren't getting any calls.
Maybe consider going on a beans and rice diet while staying in CT for awhile to hoard cash? There are places that will rent to you despite being unemployed if you can provide first and last months' rent or X amount of months upfront in cash. Or is there a friend/family member in Miami that will allow you to couch surf for awhile?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 8:33:50 GMT -5
My brother had the same problem when he wanted to move to FL. He never got any response to applications while he was living in MN. He had to move down there first before they would even give him an interview.
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Post by milee on Oct 16, 2017 8:34:48 GMT -5
Well at least now you have a possible answer as to why you aren't getting any calls. .... Pretty sure there have been multiple people who actually live and work in Florida and understand the local business environment who have suggested this "possible answer" in not just this thread but the other, prior threads she's posted about this exact same topic. Just sayin'. It's not exactly a lightning bolt surprise moment...
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 16, 2017 8:38:32 GMT -5
Well at least now you have a possible answer as to why you aren't getting any calls. .... Pretty sure there have been multiple people who actually live and work in Florida and understand the local business environment who have suggested this "possible answer" in not just this thread but the other, prior threads she's posted about this exact same topic. Just sayin'. It's not exactly a lightning bolt surprise moment... I was just trying to be positive. She seemed to be taking it so personally. Excuse me.
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Post by milee on Oct 16, 2017 8:44:14 GMT -5
Pretty sure there have been multiple people who actually live and work in Florida and understand the local business environment who have suggested this "possible answer" in not just this thread but the other, prior threads she's posted about this exact same topic. Just sayin'. It's not exactly a lightning bolt surprise moment... I was just trying to be positive. She seemed to be taking it so personally. Excuse me. You weren't the one I was a bit frustrated with, you were only pointing out the obvious. This is not the first time she's posted about this issue. Each time, she gets the exact same (good) advice and each time she appears to be shocked when that advice - Florida employers are hesitant to talk to OOS candidates - turns out to be true. It's getting to be a little like the gag with the Carrie Fisher character in "When Harry Met Sally"... you see the same character asking the exact same question with the same level of angst, shock and denial over years and years and years and finally you just want to yell at the screen, "NO! He is NEVER going to leave his wife for you!!!"
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 16, 2017 8:53:29 GMT -5
I am way too confused. On one hand I feel, like simser, that I am throwing the towel too early. On the other hand, I put a lot of time, effort, money, etc. on this to let it go to waste. The Connecticut CPA people reached back to me and indicated what forms I need to fill out to start my application here. I have to start a brand new application and then request that Florida transfer my grades to Connecticut, once my application has been accepted. I hope it gets accepted. My former professor also got back to me and we are going to meet in a couple of weeks. I would love to be in Florida. I truly dislike Connecticut. It's just that after a month of sending job applications and getting nothing I am feeling frustrated and worried that I will end up with nothing. If I had gotten at least an email back, a question, a request for a phone interview I wouldn't mind. But I have nothing. I really don't know how to proceed. I never thought it would be so hard after passing the exam. I guess I'll start my Connecticut application and start sending resumes to both Florida and Connecticut for now and see what happens. If my former professor truly can connect me with employers, really, how can you beat that, even though it's here in CT? Right now it feels like my Florida applications are falling into a big black hole, never to be seen or heard again. You are giving up way too easily! Speaking as a person who does the hiring for my Finance Department in both the US and Canada, depending on the position and what I'm in the middle of, it might take me a couple of weeks to even start wading through the resumes that the recruiter sends me. Obviously there are positions that are needed ASAP but other positions are long-term positions that I don't have to drop everything to look at.
If your heart is in Florida, do not give up some easily. You will live to regret it. Absolutely become certified in Connecticut because it never hurts to be certified in more than one state.
Good luck!
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Post by Miss Tequila on Oct 16, 2017 8:55:48 GMT -5
Sent an email to an Accountemps recruiter. She answered immediately. She said she is very interested in meeting me but cannot place people who are not living in the Miami area. Very, very frustrating. She said I should contact her once I move there. Aaaaahhh! I need a job in order to move. That makes sense, though. You are an entry level position...not to sound mean, but there are a lot of you at that level so an employer doesn't need to go outside the area. Hoard your cash, get your certification and then make the move
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Post by suesinfl on Oct 16, 2017 9:06:35 GMT -5
I was just trying to be positive. She seemed to be taking it so personally. Excuse me.[ You weren't the one I was a bit frustrated with, you were only pointing out the obvious. This is not the first time she's posted about this issue. Each time, she gets the exact same (good) advice and each time she appears to be shocked when that advice - Florida employers are hesitant to talk to OOS candidates - turns out to be true. [Sorry about that formatting. I think Ava just needed to hear what we’ve been saying from an employer.
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Post by milee on Oct 16, 2017 9:10:09 GMT -5
Oh, I agree she needed to hear it. But sometimes in our efforts to be supportive we as a board gloss over some of the obvious, painful things.
The silence from employers was the employers speaking. The silence is a group of employers saying that they are not interested in what is currently being offered.*** It's not an ambiguous message and agrees with what has been posted here. It's not helpful to ignore that part of what employers are "saying".
***The positive part of the message is that this does not mean they're not interested in Ava period. It's reasonably likely that they're just not interested in bothering with an OOS candidate. That's the takeaway message here. OOS = difficult to get foot into door. Once she finally accepts this and decides how to handle this particular obstacle, she has many ways she can overcome it and eventually get a FL job.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 9:19:30 GMT -5
If it was me and I really wanted to be in FL (God, why does anyone? ) then I'd just save up a bunch of money and head down there. You're single with no kids. There is nothing tying you to CT except your job and with your CPA you have a marketable skill and should be able to land something easy enough...once you're actually there. You just need the cash to get you through a period of unemployment.
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Post by zibazinski on Oct 16, 2017 9:45:20 GMT -5
Why not try that Florida POBox like was suggested? Do you know anyone in Florida that you could use their address? The phone number is no biggie. People move and keep their old cell numbers all the time.
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Post by hsclassic on Oct 19, 2017 8:54:40 GMT -5
Ava, This is what my DH faced 16+ years ago when we wanted to relocate from Ohio to Florida. Many, many employers here will not consider OOS candidates unless they already live here. Couple of tips from our experience:
1. Good for you to advise all employers you WILL be relocating to Florida and emphasize in your application that no relocation assistance is being requested.
2. Best if you can demonstrate WHERE you will be living when you relocate. We owned a vacation condo already, so we had the appearance of already living here which helped. Perhaps there is someone you know that you can loosely define as your new location.
3. Let the employers know WHEN you will be in the area, even if you will be here for vacation. That is what tipped DH's Florida employer to contact him for an interview - he knew when we'd be in the area and called DH in for an interview.
4. Definitely consider some road trips to the area you WANT to live in and let the employers know you will be here - even the ones that rejected you because you were OOS.
Good luck. With your commitment to your future, I am sure you will achieve your goals of being a CPA and being in Florida.
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Post by Ava on Oct 19, 2017 15:45:41 GMT -5
Thanks hsclassic for the thoughtful post and the good advice.
I am currently doing my CPA application for Connecticut so I can job-search in both states and get certified wherever I find a job first. Moving without a job is out of the question for me. I don't have the guts for that. Besides, it looks like finding a good job is getting longer and I may run out of money if I move and become unemployed.
My search continues, it is not easy. I got a few rejection emails and that's it for now. My spirits are up and I'm sure I will find something in the not too distant future.
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Post by suesinfl on Oct 19, 2017 16:11:44 GMT -5
My spirits are up and I'm sure I will find something in the not too distant future.
Make this your mantra and repeat several times a day as needed.
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Post by justme on Oct 19, 2017 16:26:29 GMT -5
Sent an email to an Accountemps recruiter. She answered immediately. She said she is very interested in meeting me but cannot place people who are not living in the Miami area. Very, very frustrating. She said I should contact her once I move there. Aaaaahhh! I need a job in order to move. That makes sense, though. You are an entry level position...not to sound mean, but there are a lot of you at that level so an employer doesn't need to go outside the area. Hoard your cash, get your certification and then make the move The second largest university in the country is in Florida... and it pumps out a lot of accounting majors. Throw in the other universities and those graduating with masters and that's a large local pool for entry level.
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Post by Ava on Oct 20, 2017 16:30:49 GMT -5
My spirits are up and I'm sure I will find something in the not too distant future.
Make this your mantra and repeat several times a day as needed. Thank you, Sue
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Post by wanttofire on Oct 24, 2017 21:59:15 GMT -5
That makes sense, though. You are an entry level position...not to sound mean, but there are a lot of you at that level so an employer doesn't need to go outside the area. Hoard your cash, get your certification and then make the move The second largest university in the country is in Florida... and it pumps out a lot of accounting majors. Throw in the other universities and those graduating with masters and that's a large local pool for entry level. There is a large pool of applicants, for one Miami graduates do not want to leave Miami. I used to recruit for Finance and could never get people to move outside of Miami Ava, you have been wanting to do this for years, I’ve been reading your posts since you used to work at the cafeteria I think. I remember advising you to just move to Florida and work in corporate accounting but you wanted to get your CPA. Not saying is impossible but public firms will look for recent younger grads that they can work to death for the first 3 years, usually that pipeline gets built with interns. I think that it is time you decide is Florida is it and make the risky move, maybe working in a corporate office and not necesarilly using your CPA. Or just save money and move, take any jobs while you keep looking. Life is too short.
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Post by justme on Oct 24, 2017 23:29:55 GMT -5
The second largest university in the country is in Florida... and it pumps out a lot of accounting majors. Throw in the other universities and those graduating with masters and that's a large local pool for entry level. There is a large pool of applicants, for one Miami graduates do not want to leave Miami. I used to recruit for Finance and could never get people to move outside of Miami Ava, you have been wanting to do this for years, I’ve been reading your posts since you used to work at the cafeteria I think. I remember advising you to just move to Florida and work in corporate accounting but you wanted to get your CPA. Not saying is impossible but public firms will look for recent younger grads that they can work to death for the first 3 years, usually that pipeline gets built with interns. I think that it is time you decide is Florida is it and make the risky move, maybe working in a corporate office and not necesarilly using your CPA. Or just save money and move, take any jobs while you keep looking. Life is too short. Or anywhere in Florida really. Though ironically I would have loved a finance job outside of Florida when I graduated and I only ever heard back from Florida companies.
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Post by Works4me on Oct 25, 2017 2:38:06 GMT -5
Ava - weren't you talking about taking a vacation with your mother late November and/or early December?
If you really want to move to Florida, you need to make that your priority. I'd recommend spending your vacation time there job hunting. You can meet with recruiters and also make other professional connections.
Have you considered other southern states? Georgia and southern Texas come to mind. The weather is similar and you may have an easier time getting hired.
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