Broken Promises #2: The Wall

[djAdvocate]

this is arguably the most potent rhetorical device of his campaign.  his fans would hillbilly henna it on their arms, chests and bellies.  they would chant "built that wall" at rallies.  and he would spend time glowering over it like an expectant parent- telling everyone how beautiful it would be, and what a great parent he would be raising it.

but at 7 months, there is not not even a PLAN for doing this thing, let alone a dollar spent or a brick laid.  here are the falsities and outright lies of the "plan", if he could be said to have one:

1) $8 Billion.  that's right.  and maybe you could do that.  but it would be more aptly described as FENCING, not a wall.  for the wall, as the president himself describes it (see point 4), reasonable estimates are about 5x that.
2) Mexico will pay.  um.....no.  Mexico will not pay.
3) Quickly/Starting in April.  to begin with, April is a dumb time to start a desert construction project.  November is smarter.  to finish with, it is August, and guess what?  nothing but crickets.  furthermore, there are huge hurdles to overcome FINISHING the project.  apart from all of the open ocean, there is also the issue that people (primarily those he could rightly call his constituents) own vast swaths of land that our dear beloved father must "acquire" to build said wall.  if you interview them, they are not happy about it.  then there are all the EIR's, etc (although dismantling the EPA will help).  given the complexities, he would be lucky to finish it in his lifetime, let alone his first term in office.
4) Effective.  how so?  if you build it cheaply, it can be easily breached by tunneling.  if you build it expensively, ladders and ropes get you over in under a minute.  does he think we are stupid?  or is he stupid?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/mexico-border-wall-donald-trump-planning-much-will-cost-will/
www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/donald-trump-s-border-wall-progress-report-n764726

[Tennesseer]

And who's paying for it now?

We are.

[Tennesseer]

I hope our next president tears down that wall for the disgrace to the United States it is.

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[weltschmerz]

All and all, he's  just....

Another dick with a wall.

[thyme4change]

Could it be that Donald doesn't know how government work, nor is as good at making deals as he has claimed?

[NastyWoman]

Aug 14, 2017 23:41:03 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Could it be that Donald doesn't know how government work, nor is as good at making deals as he has claimed?

Well, considering the amount of start-up and restart money he received from his daddy, combined with his multiple bankruptcies, I would think that it goes without saying that his deal making capabilities are vastly overstated.

[happyhoix]

I've been really curious how the Trump supporters felt when the conversation between Trump and the Mexican president leaked, revealing Trump begging the guy to please stop saying that Mexico wasn't paying for the wall, because it was making Trump look bad.

Then admitting that Mexico would NOT pay for the wall, but somehow, the money would 'all come out in the wash.' By which I assume he meant he would slice some off of welfare and preschool programs and funnel it over into the construction of his wall, but it wouldn't come from Mexico.

I would love to ask my MIL and SIL, both ardent, devoted Trump loyalists (still) but I don't want to make the family holiday gatherings awkward, so I keep my mouth shut.

If any of the Trump supporters on this board care to weigh in what they think Trump meant by his comments, I would love to hear it, especially if they managed to interpret his comments as anything other than an admission he was lying his ass off through his entire primary run.

[dondub]

Please vote for me while I play to your fears with complete bullshit.